Email Bounce Back from ISP

[bobdydd]

Hi All

I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)

I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
rejected and bounced back to me.

So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.

One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body and
subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and and
rejects them.......However this did not work.

So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
customers is a pest.

Any ideas anyone?

 

[Bioboffin]

Hi All

I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)

I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
rejected and bounced back to me.

So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.

One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body
and subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails
and and rejects them.......However this did not work.

So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
customers is a pest.

Any ideas anyone?

You don't say what software you are using - you could set the software to
send emails immediately - so that each one goes as it is composed. Of course
this does mean that you can't have second thoughts if you write that flame
to your boss.

 

[AJR]

Is it possible that if "one" e-mail is invalid, for whatever reason, they
are all rejected?

 

[Agent_C]

I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
rejected and bounced back to me.

A simple solution would be to simply hit 'Send' for each and every
email.

Trying to get around your ISP's SPAM control measures is probably
going to be self-defeating; and may even get you suspended.

A_C

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

Hi All

I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)

I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
rejected and bounced back to me.

So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.

One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body and
subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and and
rejects them.......However this did not work.

So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
customers is a pest.

Any ideas anyone?

Many ISP's check for 'bulk' mail sending to block spam mailers. You would need to contact your ISP to find out if
they are doing this and what they consider 'bulk'. I suspect that's what's happening.

 

[stephen]

Hi All

I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)

I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
rejected and bounced back to me.

So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.

One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body and
subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and and
rejects them.......However this did not work.

So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
customers is a pest.

Any ideas anyone?

there is a limit on the outbound SMTP server - AFAICT based on qty sent over
time - i used to hit as part of a spam suppression scheme at around 8 to12
emails. Apparently this is part of spam suppression so i doubt NTL will
"fix" it.

i have my mail client set to "send immediately", which gets around the
problem since my typing slows it down.

if all else fails you could set up your own outbound mail server, or use an
alternate service?

 

[Joe Soap]

So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots of
customers is a pest.

Any ideas anyone?

Install your own SMTP sever on your own machine. Try Argosoft.

 

[Bob Eager]

Install your own SMTP sever on your own machine. Try Argosoft.

Fine...IF the ISP doesn't block or transparently proxy the port. As
quite a few do.

(Mine doesn't, and I do run my own SMTP server for incoming and outgoing
mail; but not Argosoft, of course).

 

[Brian Tillman]

Install your own SMTP sever on your own machine. Try Argosoft.

Which could very well wind up with the person's PC being blacklisted.

 

[Gizmo]

Install your own SMTP sever on your own machine. Try Argosoft.

Says the "expert" on email

 

[Vanguard]

Hi All

I am using NTL cable broadband (UK)

I sometimes answer all my email first and the press send/receive to
send up to 40 emails in one go. This causes every one of them to be
rejected and bounced back to me.

So I have conducted a few experiments that might fool whatever
restriction there is on send more than one email at a time.

One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the body
and
subject of each email just in case it looks for similar emails and
and
rejects them.......However this did not work.

So it seems that if I try to send more than 5 emails in one go they
will ALL be bounced back which if you are trying to deal with lots
of
customers is a pest.

Any ideas anyone?

Stop using the same template in your mass mailings. Using the same
content, like a template, means the Bayes filters will find them all
alike and mark them as bulk mail (which may then be tagged as spam).

 

[Mike Scott]

Bob Eager wrote:
....

Fine...IF the ISP doesn't block or transparently proxy the port. As
quite a few do.

(Mine doesn't, and I do run my own SMTP server for incoming and outgoing
mail; but not Argosoft, of course).

ntl's fine. I run sendmail at home, no problem (apart from those ISPs
who don't like smtp from dynamic IPs :-( But they're hardly ntl's fault)

 

[Andrew Murray]

A simple solution would be to simply hit 'Send' for each and every
email.

Trying to get around your ISP's SPAM control measures is probably
going to be self-defeating; and may even get you suspended.

A_C

On sort-of a related note, have you checked your firewall settings - e.g.
ZoneAlarm (security suite) allows you to set a maximum number of recipients
for outbound mail, so maybe you've set this too low, if your FW has such a
setting.

 

[Martin Jay]

Install your own SMTP sever on your own machine. Try Argosoft.

Doing that can create it's own problems. The original poster would
probably have problems sending emails to AOL, and other places, that
reject SMTP connections from Internet provider's 'pool' of IP addresses
used by customers.

 

[Joe Soap]

Says the "expert" on email

Got a problem, dickhead?

 

[Gizmo]

Got a problem, dickhead?

No problem at all ... least not with my email set up.
How about you ?

 

[Joe Soap]

No problem at all ... least not with my email set up.
How about you ?

Well at least you know your name, I expect you answer to 'arsehole' as
well.

Now **** off to the killfile, where you belong.

*plonk*

 

[Tx2]

[...]

Now **** off to the killfile, where you belong.

Ahhh, the smell of burning. 'Hurrah' for Usenet.

*sigh*

 

[Gizmo]

Well at least you know your name, I expect you answer to 'arsehole' as
well.

Now **** off to the killfile, where you belong.

*plonk*

I'll strike that one down as a win - it's just a shame the competition was
so damn easy

 

[bobdydd]

Stop using the same template in your mass mailings. Using the same
content, like a template, means the Bayes filters will find them all
alike and mark them as bulk mail (which may then be tagged as spam).

Hi! Thanks for the response.

One of the things I have done is to add a random number to the first
line of the body which was supposed to have cured this........but maybe
just 1 number in not enough.

Any thoughts on how to defeat the filter (If that is what it is thats
causing it)