email encryption, clear this up for me please

[Phillip Drummond]

i send an encrypted email to someone, the message is encrypted using their
public key. the message can only be DEcrypted by the users private key... so
then why can i read the message in my sent items folder in outlook?

 

[VanguardLH]

i send an encrypted email to someone, the message is encrypted using
their public key. the message can only be DEcrypted by the users
private key... so then why can i read the message in my sent items
folder in outlook?

It gets encrypted when sent. You only have a copy. You do NOT have a
copy of what actually got sent (i.e., what you delivered to your SMTP
mail host). You only have a *local* copy of your e-mail. Obviously you
can read whatever YOU sent. There would be no point in saving a local
copy if you couldn't read it. Have you tried BCC'ing yourself on the
encrypted e-mail and then yanking back a copy of what actually got sent
and then trying to read it?

 

[Phillip Drummond]

while that answer is ok for outlook, it doesnt work with windows mail or
outlook express.
when you send an encrypted mail with either of those clients, you can NOT
read the copy that is in your sent items folder. see? learn something new
every day huh? so thats why im asking... why does it work in outlook.

 

[Brian Tillman]

while that answer is ok for outlook, it doesnt work with windows mail
or outlook express.

Who cares? This is an Outlook newsgroup.

 

[VanguardLH]

while that answer is ok for outlook, it doesnt work with windows mail
or outlook express.
when you send an encrypted mail with either of those clients, you can
NOT read the copy that is in your sent items folder. see? learn
something new every day huh? so thats why im asking... why does it
work in outlook.

And I would care WHY about other e-mail clients than this newsgroup
addresses? You asked about Outlook. If you want to know how other
e-mail clients work then go ask in the newsgroups for THOSE other e-mail
clients. Could be Eudora, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Pegasus, and other
e-mail clients all behave differently from each other. That is
irrelevant in a newsgroup that discusses *OUTLOOK*.

 

[F.H. Muffman]

i send an encrypted email to someone, the message is encrypted using

while that answer is ok for outlook, it doesnt work with windows mail
or outlook express.
when you send an encrypted mail with either of those clients, you can
NOT read the copy that is in your sent items folder. see? learn something
new every day huh? so thats why im asking... why does it work in outlook.

Because it does. Also note that OE and Outlook aren't related in any way.

The developers made a design decision to allow you to read what you sent
rather than not.

 

[Phillip Drummond]

LMAO its funny that none of you morons care to learn anything new. are you
not curious how email encryption works in general? or how outlook handles
it? because none of you know. why cant OUTLOOK view sent encrypted items in
the preview pane? why do they need to first be opened? hhmmm.... MVP's huh?
sure, as long as someone is asking how to open a freakin PST file! soon as
you get an intelligent, real world question you all choke and get defensive.
its comical

 

[Brian Tillman]

LMAO its funny that none of you morons care to learn anything new.
are you not curious how email encryption works in general? or how
outlook handles it?

I know both of these quite well. I run the PKI service where I work.

why cant OUTLOOK view
sent encrypted items in the preview pane? why do they need to first
be opened? hhmmm.... MVP's huh?

Because that's the way Outlook was designed to work. We who are MVPs don't
have links into the minds of the developers. You'd have to ask them for
their reasons.

sure, as long as someone is asking
how to open a freakin PST file! soon as you get an intelligent, real
world question you all choke and get defensive. its comical

You're the one who said "why can i read the message in my sent items folder
in outlook?" Now you're saying "why cant OUTLOOK view sent encrypted items
in the preview pane?" You seem to be contradicting yourself. Your second
statement seems to be the true one. But again, it is what it is. The
reason appears to be that not only is the message encrypted using the
recipient's private key, it is also encrypted using your own private key, so
you must decrypt it to read it or, at least, so my experiments seem to
indicate. Why a message in the Sent Items folder would behave as though it
were sent to yourself, however, cannot be known except by the people who
wrote the program.

 

[VanguardLH]

LMAO its funny that none of you morons care to learn anything new. are
you not curious how email encryption works in general? or how outlook
handles it? because none of you know. why cant OUTLOOK view sent
encrypted items in the preview pane? why do they need to first be
opened? hhmmm.... MVP's huh? sure, as long as someone is asking how to
open a freakin PST file! soon as you get an intelligent, real world
question you all choke and get defensive. its comical

Do you also ask for /help/ regarding the selection of tires by going to
a gardening newsgroup? You were the one that became defensive. We were
poking fun at *YOU* for being the boob while you whined like a child
that "it don't work the way that *I* want, waaaaah". If someone is
pointing a gun at your head to force you to use Outlook, do you want us
to dial 911 for you?

 

[Brian Tillman]

The reason appears to be that not only is
the message encrypted using the recipient's private key, it is also
encrypted using your own private key,

I meant to type "your own public key".