Entourage 11.3.5?

[Claude V. Lucas]

Hi

Was there an Entourage 11.3.5 in the latest (8-May) patch?

I downloaded and installed the upgrade.

Word, Excel, and PowerPoint all show 11.3.5, but Entourage is 11.3.3 still.

TIA


Claude

 

[Michel Bintener]

No, that's alright; Entourage 2004 is still at 11.3.3 while the other apps
are now at 11.3.5.

Hi

Was there an Entourage 11.3.5 in the latest (8-May) patch?

I downloaded and installed the upgrade.

Word, Excel, and PowerPoint all show 11.3.5, but Entourage is 11.3.3 still.

TIA


Claude

--
Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:Mac (Entourage & Word)

***Always reply to the newsgroup.***

 

[Claude V. Lucas]

No, that's alright; Entourage 2004 is still at 11.3.3 while the other apps
are now at 11.3.5.

Excellent.


Thanks


Claude

--
Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:Mac (Entourage & Word)

***Always reply to the newsgroup.***

 

[Claude V. Lucas]

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The Microsoft Database daemon was updated to 11.3.5. This should fix an
issue that caused Entourage to stop responding for several minutes during
ordinary use.

Get this free script that will show what Office applications were updated.
The true test of any update is the Microsoft Component Plugin. It is always
updated.
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/script/fav_scripts.html#favscript_findVersion

I'm not having any problems with Entourage, although I generally run
the db check and compact it every month or so.

I look in the "About" panes after upgrades and I noticed Entourage
was still at 11.3.3 so I wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I always close the apps before upgrading...

thanks

Claude

 

[Diane Ross]

I'm not having any problems with Entourage, although I generally run
the db check and compact it every month or so.

It¹s not recommended that you compact unless you need to conserve space.
--
Diane Ross, Microsoft Mac MVP
Entourage Help Page
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
One of the top five MS Entourage resources listed on the Entourage Blog.
<http://blogs.msdn.com/entourage/>

 

[Claude V. Lucas]

It¹s not recommended that you compact unless you need to conserve space.

Why is that?

 

[Diane Ross]

Why is that?

Short version: Because the developers say so.

The rebuild takes your data and re-arranges it. During that process things
can go wrong. If it does, you can loose everything. Think of it as throwing
everything up in the air that¹s on your desk and then place it in an
orderly manner back in it¹s rightful place.


--
Diane Ross, Microsoft Mac MVP
Entourage Help Page
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
One of the top five MS Entourage resources listed on the Entourage Blog.
<http://blogs.msdn.com/entourage/>

 

[Claude V. Lucas]

Short version: Because the developers say so.

The rebuild takes your data and re-arranges it. During that process things
can go wrong. If it does, you can loose everything. Think of it as throwing
everything up in the air that¹s on your desk and then place it in an
orderly manner back in it¹s rightful place.

Why am I not surprised that a robust database compacting utility
is apparently beyond the capabilities of Microsoft?

Why is this "feature" included in the product if there is
potential for data loss?

Presumably, the backup copy is created before the compacting is performed.

BTW, I have been using it for 4 years now without problems. When I notice
sluggishness or the beach ball while using Entourage I have been able
to relieve the symptoms by checking and compacting.

 

[JE McGimpsey]

Short version: Because the developers say so.

The rebuild takes your data and re-arranges it. During that process things
can go wrong. If it does, you can loose everything. Think of it as throwing
everything up in the air that¹s on your desk and then place it in an
orderly manner back in it¹s rightful place.

Hmmm...

I've been compacting/rebuilding two or three times a month for years
now, with no problems that I know of...

 

[Claude V. Lucas]

Hmmm...

I've been compacting/rebuilding two or three times a month for years
now, with no problems that I know of...

Good to hear.

Somehow the other response invokes an unwholesome image.

 

[Christopher MacLeod]

Thank you, thank you, Diane! This has been one of those issues that, while
annoying, wasn¹t crippling. I kept going to my Activity Monitor to see if
something was happening that I wasn¹t aware of.

I wish that MS updates would include information detailed enough to let me
know that this sort of issue had been addressed.

Chris

 

[Diane Ross]

I downloaded and installed the Mac 11.3.5 Update. I tried to use the
referenced script to check what was updated.

I must be doing something wrong. As I have noted before, I downloaded the
FindOfficeVersion ³application² to my desktop.
When I doubleclick it, I get the following message ³An error of type - 10814
Has occurred². I get the same message whether the application is on the
Desktop, a Finder window or on the Dock. As you previously noted I made sure I
downloaded the
³script application² and not the ³compiled script². I have downloaded several
of the other favorite scripts and they all work OK.
Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, John

I believe this is a Finder error. I searched Google and saw this on the
error:

The -10814 error means that the OS couldn't find the SpamSieve application.

For users who installed Mail Scripts after installing the latest Security
Update from Apple, running the scripts from the script menus in Mail and
Address Book will generate an error -10814. I am currently testing an
updated version which works around this issue. In the meantime, the scripts
should run fine from the menus after they have been run from the Finder (by
double-clicking each of the individual applications located in
/Applications/Mail Scripts/)

Test the script in a new User.

1. Drag the script to your Shared folder
2. create a new User in System Preferences
3. log into the new user
4. drag the script from Shared to the desktop and run

Does it work in the new User? If yes,then there is a problem in your User¹s
folder. If no, then it indicates a system wide problem. First try running
the Combo updater from Apple. If that doesn¹t work you might need to do a
Archive & Install.

<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/troubleshoot/combo.html>
--
Diane Ross, Microsoft Mac MVP
Entourage Help Page
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
One of the top five MS Entourage resources listed on the Entourage Blog.
<http://blogs.msdn.com/entourage/>

 

[Mickey Stevens]

Hmmm...

I've been compacting/rebuilding two or three times a month for years
now, with no problems that I know of...

It should be safe to compact occasionally, although rebuilding should be
avoided unless there is database corruption. Here's what Jud Spencer [MS]
said on the issue:

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There is a small benefit to compacting regularly. Entourage maintains
internal sort tables. Those sort tables are optimized on a compact.

However, you should only choose the rebuild option if your database is
damaged. Many people believe that rebuilding your database will protect you
from future corruption. That just isn¹t the case.

 

[aRKay]

No, that's alright; Entourage 2004 is still at 11.3.3 while the other apps
are now at 11.3.5.

Thank you...... I was getting concerned that I missed an update