Eression web - server extensions

W

Wayne-I-M

Hi

I have a number of sites (all made with FP) some are on a linux server (asp)
and other on a a non asp server.

Does expresion web need asp server extentions or will it run on a non asp
sever.

Thank you
 
W

Wayne-I-M

Me dispiace ma il mio Inglese fa schiffo

(I'm sorry but my english is crap)

What I mean is to say that - do you need to have a host with asp extentions
for expression web site ?

Thank you
 
M

Mike Mueller

Everything that requires the FPSE is not part of EW. EW will not break
existing bot code, but will not add new. You can also still use the FPSE to
publish via HTTP

Most of the toys in v1 of EW are .Net Framework 2 based. EW v2 promises to
have PHP support also
 
W

Wayne-I-M

Ha Ha Ha

Soory mike that's waaaaay over my head.

What i asking is that I like the things in asp (like form the form
forwarding) - if I make a site in experssion web will I still need to use a
host with asp extentions.

The reason I ask is I like the people at the server (windows - with non asp
extentions) they always pick up the phone if we have a problem and give good
advice. The people at the asp server are - well lets just say they hide
behind the e mail -

So - If I build site in expression web can I still have the facilities like
forms forwarding in asp but without going on a host with asp extentions.

I hope this make sense to you

Thank you

--
Wayne
Manchester, England.



Mike Mueller said:
Everything that requires the FPSE is not part of EW. EW will not break
existing bot code, but will not add new. You can also still use the FPSE to
publish via HTTP

Most of the toys in v1 of EW are .Net Framework 2 based. EW v2 promises to
have PHP support also
 
W

Wayne-I-M

OK

I "think" I have the answer - No

I looked at this site and got this

http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=602975&rl=1

The Expression Web Designer application walks the Web standards walk. One
caution: Web Designer currently only supports ASP.NET. Microsoft built the
ASP.NET platform; it isn’t a surprise that Expression Web Designer was
designed to support that platform. This is obviously a drawback for those
designers who work with PHP, JSP, and other non-ASP.NET platforms, making it
difficult for Microsoft to expand its reach beyond the ASP.NET users.



--
Wayne
Manchester, England.



Wayne-I-M said:
Ha Ha Ha

Soory mike that's waaaaay over my head.

What i asking is that I like the things in asp (like form the form
forwarding) - if I make a site in experssion web will I still need to use a
host with asp extentions.

The reason I ask is I like the people at the server (windows - with non asp
extentions) they always pick up the phone if we have a problem and give good
advice. The people at the asp server are - well lets just say they hide
behind the e mail -

So - If I build site in expression web can I still have the facilities like
forms forwarding in asp but without going on a host with asp extentions.

I hope this make sense to you

Thank you
 
R

Ronx

What *are* asp extensions?

asp is a method of adding scripts (that run on the server) to web pages.
The scripts can be written in several languages, but vbScript is the
most common.

Asp is supported on almost every Windows server (I know one host that
has disallowed asp), but is not supported on every Linux/Unix server -
and those that do use iASP or similar, which may be limited in
functionality.

In Expression Web, there are no (asp based) Wizards to assist with
database functionality, but hand coded script is supported in the same
way as in FrontPage.

Expression Web does provide support for asp.Net 2. asp.Net requires
Windows servers supporting asp.Net 2.0 or later (or Unix running Mono).


If you actually mean FrontPage extensions - EW will work with and
support *existing* components that use or require FrontPage extensions.
But adding new components to pages (or old components to new pages) can
only be done using copy and paste from old pages, or code snippets. The
property sheets for some components are also limited, which may mean
it's difficult to configure (or edit) a component.

Note that FrontPage extensions on any server other than Windows 2003 or
later are no longer supported by Microsoft, and some hosts are removing
the extensions from their servers.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
 
W

Wayne-I-M

In Expression Web, there are no (asp based) Wizards to assist with
database functionality, but hand coded script is supported in the same
way as in FrontPage.

Does this mean that if you don't know how to write all the code the
programme will insert it for you like in FP

Say you want to have a form that writes to an on-line database - FP will
fill in the top part of the code for you. Will EW do that also or will you
need to write the zillions of lines of code yourself?
 
R

Ronx

Inline below

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




In Expression Web, there are no (asp based) Wizards to assist with
database functionality, but hand coded script is supported in the same
way as in FrontPage.

Does this mean that if you don't know how to write all the code the
programme will insert it for you like in FP

No. FrontPage does not do this either for hand coded asp. The ONLY
support is that neither FrontPage nor EW will alter the code for you,
and it will be colour coded to distinguish it from HTML.
Say you want to have a form that writes to an on-line database - FP will
fill in the top part of the code for you. Will EW do that also or will you
need to write the zillions of lines of code yourself?

FrontPage uses the database results wizard for that - this does not
exist in EW.
The zillions of lines of code that FrontPage uses can be easily
condensed into ten or 20 or thereabouts:
about 6 lines to get the data from the database, the rest to validate
and write it out on the page.

FrontPage uses a lot of code because it has to cater for every surprise
a database application can produce. When hand coding you KNOW what to
expect, which makes coding for the unexpected easier.
 

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