Export mail

T

TS Mathews

As I'm not sure whether this is an OE or an Outlook question, I'm posting to
both--I hope the method is correct for posting in two groups without being
considered an idiot. ;-)


I thought I had lost a bunch of old e-mail a reformat or two before getting
rid of my old computer but when I saw something about DBXpress on this forum
a day or two ago I decided to give it a try and, sure enough, it found all
the dbx files on my external hard drive on which I'd saved my entire old
data drive.

On my new system, I'm using Outlook 2007 beta and didn't plan on setting up
OE as I need to be able to sync easily with my pda so I was planning on
waiting for Windows Mail to make the switch BUT, I had hoped I could exports
those old messages from OE to Outlook so I'd have them for reference and the
export seemed to work just fine but when I tried to find them in Outlook,
they don't show up. I knew I'd lose the dates on them if I tried to import
them into Outlook but I wanted to see if they'd at least show up so I began
the import just to see what options would be there but I got the prompt that
Outlook found no other mail programs on my system.

I'm assuming this is because I only have OE set up as my newsreader, so, my
question is, does anyone from either OE or Outlook know if that's the only
problem or might it be something to do with the fact that I'm trying to
export from OE to the beta Outlook which didn't exist when OE's export
utility was written?

Thanks,
Tim
 
J

Jim Pickering

What you have in mind is most likely going to be a two step process. First,
open Outlook Express and use its menu, File/Import/Messages/OE6/From a
Message Store and point to the folder containing the old DBX files. Once
that completes, you can then export from Outlook Express to Outlook or open
Outlook and import from its menu. In other words, you've got to get the
messages into Outlook Express before you can export/import them to anywhere.
 
T

TS Mathews

I must not have explained myself...I do have them in Outlook Express. When
I've exported them, although from the OE side, it appeared to have gone just
like any previous exports had gone BUT when I opened Outlook, they weren't
there. To make sure the other point I'm wondering about...I don't have any
e-mail accounts setup in OE. I'm only using it for my news at present
making me wonder if that might be why e-mail messages aren't exporting to
Outlook and/or Outlook can't "see" another e-mail program on my system.
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Are Outlook's email account(s) set up? If yes, there should be no problem
exporting from OE to Outlook. However, remember that Outlook 2007 is a beta
and is subject to sudden whims and fevers. It may not work out of the box.

Having said that, how are you trying to export from OE to Outlook?


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, TS Mathews asked:

| I must not have explained myself...I do have them in Outlook Express.
| When I've exported them, although from the OE side, it appeared to
| have gone just like any previous exports had gone BUT when I opened
| Outlook, they weren't there. To make sure the other point I'm
| wondering about...I don't have any e-mail accounts setup in OE. I'm
| only using it for my news at present making me wonder if that might
| be why e-mail messages aren't exporting to Outlook and/or Outlook
| can't "see" another e-mail program on my system.
|
|
| || What you have in mind is most likely going to be a two step process.
|| First, open Outlook Express and use its menu,
|| File/Import/Messages/OE6/From a Message Store and point to the folder
|| containing the old DBX files. Once that completes, you can then
|| export from Outlook Express to Outlook or open Outlook and import
|| from its menu. In other words, you've got to get the messages into
|| Outlook Express before you can export/import them to anywhere.
|| --
|| Jim Pickering
|| MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
|| Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
|| feedback.
||
||
|| ||| As I'm not sure whether this is an OE or an Outlook question, I'm
||| posting to both--I hope the method is correct for posting in two
||| groups without being considered an idiot. ;-)
|||
|||
||| I thought I had lost a bunch of old e-mail a reformat or two before
||| getting rid of my old computer but when I saw something about
||| DBXpress on this forum a day or two ago I decided to give it a try
||| and, sure enough, it found all the dbx files on my external hard
||| drive on which I'd saved my entire old data drive.
|||
||| On my new system, I'm using Outlook 2007 beta and didn't plan on
||| setting up OE as I need to be able to sync easily with my pda so I
||| was planning on waiting for Windows Mail to make the switch BUT, I
||| had hoped I could exports those old messages from OE to Outlook so
||| I'd have them for reference and the export seemed to work just fine
||| but when I tried to find them in Outlook, they don't show up. I
||| knew I'd lose the dates on them if I tried to import them into
||| Outlook but I wanted to see if they'd at least show up so I began
||| the import just to see what options would be there but I got the
||| prompt that Outlook found no other mail programs on my system.
|||
||| I'm assuming this is because I only have OE set up as my
||| newsreader, so, my question is, does anyone from either OE or
||| Outlook know if that's the only problem or might it be something to
||| do with the fact that I'm trying to export from OE to the beta
||| Outlook which didn't exist when OE's export utility was written?
|||
||| Thanks,
||| Tim
 
J

Jim Pickering

Thanks Milly. I'll leave this in your capable hands unless you think
there's something further that we can help with.
--
Jim Pickering



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Are Outlook's email account(s) set up? If yes, there should be no problem
exporting from OE to Outlook. However, remember that Outlook 2007 is a
beta
and is subject to sudden whims and fevers. It may not work out of the
box.

Having said that, how are you trying to export from OE to Outlook?


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, TS Mathews asked:

| I must not have explained myself...I do have them in Outlook Express.
| When I've exported them, although from the OE side, it appeared to
| have gone just like any previous exports had gone BUT when I opened
| Outlook, they weren't there. To make sure the other point I'm
| wondering about...I don't have any e-mail accounts setup in OE. I'm
| only using it for my news at present making me wonder if that might
| be why e-mail messages aren't exporting to Outlook and/or Outlook
| can't "see" another e-mail program on my system.
|
|
| || What you have in mind is most likely going to be a two step process.
|| First, open Outlook Express and use its menu,
|| File/Import/Messages/OE6/From a Message Store and point to the folder
|| containing the old DBX files. Once that completes, you can then
|| export from Outlook Express to Outlook or open Outlook and import
|| from its menu. In other words, you've got to get the messages into
|| Outlook Express before you can export/import them to anywhere.
|| --
|| Jim Pickering
|| MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
|| Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
|| feedback.
||
||
|| ||| As I'm not sure whether this is an OE or an Outlook question, I'm
||| posting to both--I hope the method is correct for posting in two
||| groups without being considered an idiot. ;-)
|||
|||
||| I thought I had lost a bunch of old e-mail a reformat or two before
||| getting rid of my old computer but when I saw something about
||| DBXpress on this forum a day or two ago I decided to give it a try
||| and, sure enough, it found all the dbx files on my external hard
||| drive on which I'd saved my entire old data drive.
|||
||| On my new system, I'm using Outlook 2007 beta and didn't plan on
||| setting up OE as I need to be able to sync easily with my pda so I
||| was planning on waiting for Windows Mail to make the switch BUT, I
||| had hoped I could exports those old messages from OE to Outlook so
||| I'd have them for reference and the export seemed to work just fine
||| but when I tried to find them in Outlook, they don't show up. I
||| knew I'd lose the dates on them if I tried to import them into
||| Outlook but I wanted to see if they'd at least show up so I began
||| the import just to see what options would be there but I got the
||| prompt that Outlook found no other mail programs on my system.
|||
||| I'm assuming this is because I only have OE set up as my
||| newsreader, so, my question is, does anyone from either OE or
||| Outlook know if that's the only problem or might it be something to
||| do with the fact that I'm trying to export from OE to the beta
||| Outlook which didn't exist when OE's export utility was written?
|||
||| Thanks,
||| Tim
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

No, if the files are present in OE and the user is having problems getting
that to Outlook, any version, we can take it from here.

Glad to hear from you but sorry the Natomas General Airport closed a few
years ago. Guess you will be using Sac Exec or are you done flying?


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Jim Pickering asked:

| Thanks Milly. I'll leave this in your capable hands unless you think
| there's something further that we can help with.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Are Outlook's email account(s) set up? If yes, there should be no
|| problem exporting from OE to Outlook. However, remember that
|| Outlook 2007 is a beta
|| and is subject to sudden whims and fevers. It may not work out of
|| the box.
||
|| Having said that, how are you trying to export from OE to Outlook?
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, TS Mathews asked:
||
||| I must not have explained myself...I do have them in Outlook
||| Express. When I've exported them, although from the OE side, it
||| appeared to have gone just like any previous exports had gone BUT
||| when I opened Outlook, they weren't there. To make sure the other
||| point I'm wondering about...I don't have any e-mail accounts setup
||| in OE. I'm only using it for my news at present making me wonder
||| if that might be why e-mail messages aren't exporting to Outlook
||| and/or Outlook can't "see" another e-mail program on my system.
|||
|||
||| |||| What you have in mind is most likely going to be a two step
|||| process. First, open Outlook Express and use its menu,
|||| File/Import/Messages/OE6/From a Message Store and point to the
|||| folder containing the old DBX files. Once that completes, you can
|||| then export from Outlook Express to Outlook or open Outlook and
|||| import from its menu. In other words, you've got to get the
|||| messages into Outlook Express before you can export/import them to
|||| anywhere. --
|||| Jim Pickering
|||| MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
|||| Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with
|||| your feedback.
||||
||||
|||| ||||| As I'm not sure whether this is an OE or an Outlook question, I'm
||||| posting to both--I hope the method is correct for posting in two
||||| groups without being considered an idiot. ;-)
|||||
|||||
||||| I thought I had lost a bunch of old e-mail a reformat or two
||||| before getting rid of my old computer but when I saw something
||||| about DBXpress on this forum a day or two ago I decided to give
||||| it a try and, sure enough, it found all the dbx files on my
||||| external hard drive on which I'd saved my entire old data drive.
|||||
||||| On my new system, I'm using Outlook 2007 beta and didn't plan on
||||| setting up OE as I need to be able to sync easily with my pda so I
||||| was planning on waiting for Windows Mail to make the switch BUT, I
||||| had hoped I could exports those old messages from OE to Outlook so
||||| I'd have them for reference and the export seemed to work just
||||| fine but when I tried to find them in Outlook, they don't show
||||| up. I knew I'd lose the dates on them if I tried to import them
||||| into Outlook but I wanted to see if they'd at least show up so I
||||| began the import just to see what options would be there but I
||||| got the prompt that Outlook found no other mail programs on my
||||| system.
|||||
||||| I'm assuming this is because I only have OE set up as my
||||| newsreader, so, my question is, does anyone from either OE or
||||| Outlook know if that's the only problem or might it be something
||||| to do with the fact that I'm trying to export from OE to the beta
||||| Outlook which didn't exist when OE's export utility was written?
|||||
||||| Thanks,
||||| Tim
 
T

TS Mathews

Yep. Outlook has been setup and seems to be working fine, just as the 2003
version had. The only difference from "normal" in this--at least I'd think
this isn't exactly normal--is that I don't have OE set up as an e-mail
program...I only use it for newsgroups.

I use Outlook Connector with my MSN mail address as my default and a
couple of others, including the standard mail address from my ISP. I set
it up this way when I learned that by doing it this way, all of my incoming
mail could be directed to the same inbox. So, when I went to setup OE as
well, it would not import the mail settings, giving me a prompt to the
effect that it couldn't do MAPI accounts (this is from memory so I may have
the wrong terminology). So, as I really don't plan on using OE for mail
anyway, I elected not to bother adding all the e-mail account manually.

As prior to my getting into PDA's, I used OE, I had a fairly good sized
batch of old e-mails which I thought I'd lost when I moved from my old
system to my new one but, seeing a posting about dbx files and recovering
them, I tried the product and found all those old e-mails and moved them
into OE without a problem. I've opened several just to make sure they are
actually there and not just headers etc. Now, I'd like to get them into
the Outlook program. Knowing that exporting from OE works better and
retains the dates, I did the export just like I've done other times over the
years with prior versions of each program and it seemed to go without a
hitch BUT when I opened Outlook the messages weren't there. To make sure I
hadn't inadvertantly not done the export correctly and might have missed a
prompt, I repeated the process making absolutely sure that I followed the
correct procedure. Again, it went flawlessly on the OE side of things but
the messages didn't show up in Outlook. So, thinking it must be due to the
"newness" of Outlook 2007, I decided to risk losing all the proper dates and
try an import to Outlook but when I clicked "import" and selected OE I got
the prompt that no other e-mail programs were found on my system, making me
think that, perhaps, since I don't have any e-mail accounts setup in OE, it
might now register as an e-mail program.

I hope that makes sense. It's no biggie if it can't be done yet and I
understand that Outlook 2007 is a beta program. As I said, I can see and
open all of those e-mails so if there's one I REALLY need to refer to, I can
always open it and cut and paste the contents over to an Outlook message...I
just thought I'd ask as I've seen so many workarounds done on these
newsgroups. ;-)

Thanks again,
Tim



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Are Outlook's email account(s) set up? If yes, there should be no problem
exporting from OE to Outlook. However, remember that Outlook 2007 is a
beta
and is subject to sudden whims and fevers. It may not work out of the
box.

Having said that, how are you trying to export from OE to Outlook?


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, TS Mathews asked:

| I must not have explained myself...I do have them in Outlook Express.
| When I've exported them, although from the OE side, it appeared to
| have gone just like any previous exports had gone BUT when I opened
| Outlook, they weren't there. To make sure the other point I'm
| wondering about...I don't have any e-mail accounts setup in OE. I'm
| only using it for my news at present making me wonder if that might
| be why e-mail messages aren't exporting to Outlook and/or Outlook
| can't "see" another e-mail program on my system.
|
|
| || What you have in mind is most likely going to be a two step process.
|| First, open Outlook Express and use its menu,
|| File/Import/Messages/OE6/From a Message Store and point to the folder
|| containing the old DBX files. Once that completes, you can then
|| export from Outlook Express to Outlook or open Outlook and import
|| from its menu. In other words, you've got to get the messages into
|| Outlook Express before you can export/import them to anywhere.
|| --
|| Jim Pickering
|| MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
|| Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
|| feedback.
||
||
|| ||| As I'm not sure whether this is an OE or an Outlook question, I'm
||| posting to both--I hope the method is correct for posting in two
||| groups without being considered an idiot. ;-)
|||
|||
||| I thought I had lost a bunch of old e-mail a reformat or two before
||| getting rid of my old computer but when I saw something about
||| DBXpress on this forum a day or two ago I decided to give it a try
||| and, sure enough, it found all the dbx files on my external hard
||| drive on which I'd saved my entire old data drive.
|||
||| On my new system, I'm using Outlook 2007 beta and didn't plan on
||| setting up OE as I need to be able to sync easily with my pda so I
||| was planning on waiting for Windows Mail to make the switch BUT, I
||| had hoped I could exports those old messages from OE to Outlook so
||| I'd have them for reference and the export seemed to work just fine
||| but when I tried to find them in Outlook, they don't show up. I
||| knew I'd lose the dates on them if I tried to import them into
||| Outlook but I wanted to see if they'd at least show up so I began
||| the import just to see what options would be there but I got the
||| prompt that Outlook found no other mail programs on my system.
|||
||| I'm assuming this is because I only have OE set up as my
||| newsreader, so, my question is, does anyone from either OE or
||| Outlook know if that's the only problem or might it be something to
||| do with the fact that I'm trying to export from OE to the beta
||| Outlook which didn't exist when OE's export utility was written?
|||
||| Thanks,
||| Tim
 
J

Jim Pickering

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Glad to hear from you but sorry the Natomas General Airport closed a few
years ago. Guess you will be using Sac Exec or are you done flying?

Knew about Natomas closing and will miss it as it was a handy spot on those
rare times I had to go to Sacramento area. But, I'm a long way from giving
up flying as long as the flight surgeon is willing to give me the OK for the
flight physical. And the airplane probably has more years left to it than I
do since it's quite a few decades younger than I am. <G>

Best regards.
 
S

Steve Cochran

I guess you can't find those WW1 biplanes that you first learned on.

<G>

steve

Jim Pickering said:
"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Glad to hear from you but sorry the Natomas General Airport closed a few
years ago. Guess you will be using Sac Exec or are you done flying?

Knew about Natomas closing and will miss it as it was a handy spot on
those rare times I had to go to Sacramento area. But, I'm a long way from
giving up flying as long as the flight surgeon is willing to give me the
OK for the flight physical. And the airplane probably has more years left
to it than I do since it's quite a few decades younger than I am. <G>

Best regards.
 
T

TS Mathews

Hello again. I decided to add some e-mail accounts to OE to try the export
and import again. Nothing changes on the export from OE...it appears to
work just fine but, to be honest, as I think about it there's no delay,
hourglass or any prompt that xxx messages have been exported. I can't
remember if I got such a prompt in years gone by when doing this sort of
thing. I should add that they still don't show up in Outlook when I then
open it.

Anyway, with the e-mail accounts now present in OE, Outlook now recognizes
that there is another e-mail program on the system but still doesn't import
the messages. As the export from OE didn't work, I tried again to import in
Outlook and this time the folder "imports" (which is what I used when I made
the original import of all the old messages from my archives using DBXpress)
showed up. It was empty but at least the folder showed up so, I'm guessing
it might work but for now has a problem. The only other thing I can add
which may or may not mean anything to you is that this empty folder,
"imports" show up in the (e-mail address removed) portion of "all mail items"
rather than below in my "personal folders" which is where I have all my
folders with subdirectories etc.

Hmmm, come to think of it, as my default is MAPI and can't have
subdirectories, I think I've figured out my problem so the question might
become, is there any way to do the import TO specific folders so that I can
direct it away from the msn account and into the personal one and, thus, get
all the messages in the sub directories?



TS Mathews said:
Yep. Outlook has been setup and seems to be working fine, just as the
2003 version had. The only difference from "normal" in this--at least I'd
think this isn't exactly normal--is that I don't have OE set up as an
e-mail program...I only use it for newsgroups.

I use Outlook Connector with my MSN mail address as my default and a
couple of others, including the standard mail address from my ISP. I set
it up this way when I learned that by doing it this way, all of my
incoming mail could be directed to the same inbox. So, when I went to
setup OE as well, it would not import the mail settings, giving me a
prompt to the effect that it couldn't do MAPI accounts (this is from
memory so I may have the wrong terminology). So, as I really don't plan
on using OE for mail anyway, I elected not to bother adding all the e-mail
account manually.

As prior to my getting into PDA's, I used OE, I had a fairly good sized
batch of old e-mails which I thought I'd lost when I moved from my old
system to my new one but, seeing a posting about dbx files and recovering
them, I tried the product and found all those old e-mails and moved them
into OE without a problem. I've opened several just to make sure they are
actually there and not just headers etc. Now, I'd like to get them into
the Outlook program. Knowing that exporting from OE works better and
retains the dates, I did the export just like I've done other times over
the years with prior versions of each program and it seemed to go without
a hitch BUT when I opened Outlook the messages weren't there. To make
sure I hadn't inadvertantly not done the export correctly and might have
missed a prompt, I repeated the process making absolutely sure that I
followed the correct procedure. Again, it went flawlessly on the OE side
of things but the messages didn't show up in Outlook. So, thinking it
must be due to the "newness" of Outlook 2007, I decided to risk losing all
the proper dates and try an import to Outlook but when I clicked "import"
and selected OE I got the prompt that no other e-mail programs were found
on my system, making me think that, perhaps, since I don't have any e-mail
accounts setup in OE, it might now register as an e-mail program.

I hope that makes sense. It's no biggie if it can't be done yet and I
understand that Outlook 2007 is a beta program. As I said, I can see and
open all of those e-mails so if there's one I REALLY need to refer to, I
can always open it and cut and paste the contents over to an Outlook
message...I just thought I'd ask as I've seen so many workarounds done on
these newsgroups. ;-)

Thanks again,
Tim



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Are Outlook's email account(s) set up? If yes, there should be no
problem
exporting from OE to Outlook. However, remember that Outlook 2007 is a
beta
and is subject to sudden whims and fevers. It may not work out of the
box.

Having said that, how are you trying to export from OE to Outlook?


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, TS Mathews asked:

| I must not have explained myself...I do have them in Outlook Express.
| When I've exported them, although from the OE side, it appeared to
| have gone just like any previous exports had gone BUT when I opened
| Outlook, they weren't there. To make sure the other point I'm
| wondering about...I don't have any e-mail accounts setup in OE. I'm
| only using it for my news at present making me wonder if that might
| be why e-mail messages aren't exporting to Outlook and/or Outlook
| can't "see" another e-mail program on my system.
|
|
| || What you have in mind is most likely going to be a two step process.
|| First, open Outlook Express and use its menu,
|| File/Import/Messages/OE6/From a Message Store and point to the folder
|| containing the old DBX files. Once that completes, you can then
|| export from Outlook Express to Outlook or open Outlook and import
|| from its menu. In other words, you've got to get the messages into
|| Outlook Express before you can export/import them to anywhere.
|| --
|| Jim Pickering
|| MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
|| Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
|| feedback.
||
||
|| ||| As I'm not sure whether this is an OE or an Outlook question, I'm
||| posting to both--I hope the method is correct for posting in two
||| groups without being considered an idiot. ;-)
|||
|||
||| I thought I had lost a bunch of old e-mail a reformat or two before
||| getting rid of my old computer but when I saw something about
||| DBXpress on this forum a day or two ago I decided to give it a try
||| and, sure enough, it found all the dbx files on my external hard
||| drive on which I'd saved my entire old data drive.
|||
||| On my new system, I'm using Outlook 2007 beta and didn't plan on
||| setting up OE as I need to be able to sync easily with my pda so I
||| was planning on waiting for Windows Mail to make the switch BUT, I
||| had hoped I could exports those old messages from OE to Outlook so
||| I'd have them for reference and the export seemed to work just fine
||| but when I tried to find them in Outlook, they don't show up. I
||| knew I'd lose the dates on them if I tried to import them into
||| Outlook but I wanted to see if they'd at least show up so I began
||| the import just to see what options would be there but I got the
||| prompt that Outlook found no other mail programs on my system.
|||
||| I'm assuming this is because I only have OE set up as my
||| newsreader, so, my question is, does anyone from either OE or
||| Outlook know if that's the only problem or might it be something to
||| do with the fact that I'm trying to export from OE to the beta
||| Outlook which didn't exist when OE's export utility was written?
|||
||| Thanks,
||| Tim
 

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