Export Timesheet Data

R

RKT

Hello,

I would like to be able to export the data entered by users into their
timesheets. I can do it thru the PWA right now but i find when users HIDE
the tasks on their Timesheets the data disappears.

We use Portfolio Analyzer but i can't guarantee that all project managers
will have updated actuals by the time I need to produce the report.

Is there any way to export for analysis the actual timesheet data for a
given date range?
 
F

Frederick

Hello RKT,

As a project manager, I use the PWA tool "Resources", "View resource
assignments", "Show assignments using : Timesheet format", "Assignments
displayed as : All assignments" and then export to using "Export Grid to
Excel" feature. This feature is not affected by the resource hiding tasks.

Hope this helps, Frederick
 
R

RKT

Hi Frederick,

I guess the issue that i may be having is that I have downloads of users
timesheets in the manner that you described from a previous period. Say a
month prior. When I go back and download the data again for the same period
it does not exist. I am using the "All Assignments" as well.

I guess I really want to know where the central repository for this data is
so I can reconcile my Portfolio Analyzer and the timesheet system. I don't
really trust either right now.
 
F

Frederick

Good day RKT,

Unfortunately I cannot help you fix the problem, however I will confirm one
thing to you (fuel for your fire):

1) we have been running MSP Pro & server for over 3 years now, +120 project
managers, +600 timesheets, +600 project plans (first in MSP2002 then MSP2003)

2) we have encountered so many discrepancies between MSP Pro project plans &
timesheets that we built our own application which identifies out of syncs
between project plans & timesheets.

3) Most of the errors are caused by manipulations in the plans, we have
determined that 99.99% of the time the timesheet is accurate and the plan is
the one with the errors:

i- (this is the biggest source of problems that we have and you should
ensure that all your users know this by heart) when project manager change
certain values in the plan they WILL generate actual work without knowing it
(for instance, if in the project plan you change Actual Work, % Complete,
Actual Duration, add a new resource to a task 100% completed with actual
work/0 remaining, or change the finish date on a task that is 100% completed
with actual/0 remaining, any of these changes may either generate new actual
work or change existing actual work). So, our experience is that the PM is
responsible for most of the errors simply by lack of understanding of the
impact of their manipulations on published plans with assigned Enterprise
Resource Pool resources. None of the values mentioned should be changed in
the plan, they should be changed either in the timesheet or by changing the
remaining effort. By the way, publishing with “overwrite actual effort
entered by resources†only masks the problems, it carries the problems
generated in the plan to the timesheets and then you loose the only accurate
data, i.e., what was originally entered by the resources in their
timesheets…to be used with extreme caution.

ii- we are getting situations where time seems to be in an ambiguous state
on the server, not approved, not updated, not saved and it appears in the
timesheet but not in the plan. This is again likely caused by a
mis-manipulation in the plans, we just have not yet sufficiently tested the
problem to find the root cause.

Our SOP (standard operating procedure) for project managers now includes
running our homegrown validation tool on a weekly basis after approving
timesheets, and 20% of our PM's (120 users) seem to be getting errors weekly.

I am not certain if commercial tools exist to produce this type of report,
or you may need to do like us (hire a programmer and get him to build a quick
SQL/VB application that compares events in both databases). Again, as stated,
from experience the data in the timesheets is typically accurate and the data
in the plans is where most of your problems are encountered. As a very
experienced user, your suspicions are founded no matter what anybody else
says…

Good luck to you...
 
G

Gary L. Chefetz [MVP]

RKT:

You'll want to query the MSP_WEB_WORK table to get at the timesheet source
data.
 

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