Faint Print

[Sudeva]

Hi

I have found that when I print from Word or excel on my Canon MP110 the
colour is too faint.
When i save to PDF it looks fine.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Sudeva

 

[little_creature]

Hi,
which OS do you use? Do you mean just colours or black as well?
I do not know much about color management in Word, never used it for such
purposes.
On PC, Word doesn't know anything about Color management nor the Windows
itself (without additional applets) so it just proceeds the colors is SOME
way. On Mac the situation is different, the OS knows about the color
management and use it. I'm not sure about the word on mac, but my gues would
be that when printing directly from word, no color management will be used
to make the reproduction, whereas when printing from PDF color sync
preferences will be used, but there are quite big differences between
different operating systems approach.

Thanks for topic to reveal - I haven't realize that even people using word
would like to have color consistent, not only the printing industry. Will
think about it.

 

[Sudeva]

Thanks

I'm using OS X 10.4

You just gave me the idea that PDF may use colorsync while Word doesn't
- I'll check it out.
I think the black is also fainter.

Ciao
Sudeva

 

[Sudeva]

Further to what I just said, I checked and the settings for the printer
using Word or Powerpoint and in PDF are identical as far as what it
tells me about it.
Sudeva

 

[little_creature]

Further to what I just said, I checked and the settings for the printer

using Word or Powerpoint and in PDF are identical as far as what it
tells me about it.
Sudeva

The idea was:
Word->Printer no color management
Word­>PDF no color management + PDF­>printer with color management
That could explain the differences. On Mac OS X. 10.4 there's no ability set
the Color sync Preferences.

I guess you need to print from Word and want to reach the same results as
when printing from PDF.
The another point when you can play with color management is printer driver.
So the idea could be to adjust settings in printer driver till you reach the
same result.

I will think about it more later. If anything else come into my mind I will
post it.

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Sudeva:

When you do File>Print... In Word, is the Printer Name that appears in the
Printer drop-down the one you are actually using?

Does your driver reveal a Presets box? If so, which ones are you using?

Many inkjets have a Paper Type/Quality property sheet that enables you to
match the ink density to the type of paper in use. I assume no-one has been
making mysterious settings in there?

Cheers

Hi

I have found that when I print from Word or excel on my Canon MP110 the
colour is too faint.
When i save to PDF it looks fine.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Sudeva

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[little_creature]

Hi Sudeva,
I did a bit reading and thinking but I'm not much clever. I was thinking...
The color manaegement (CM) can take place in:
*application
*printer/device driver
*OS
My thought were focused on data stream, but I cannot work it out, both seems
me same and no-one is here to be able to help me... Both options seems me
adequate.

Word is non colour management app. It will directly proceeds RGB data into
printer dirver, however somewhere the OS has to come into place with CM but
it will assume the same profile (from color sync) as source and destination
so 0 transform will take place.

Then when printing into PDF (I'm used to go to PDF via PostSript) I'm not
sure how it's handled when doing PDF via PRINT>PDF but I will assume that
also it will be created via PostScript (PS). The system profile will be
assumed to be as source and the same transform as previously should come
into place.

Then my thought was on printing dialog box-Quartz filters - when printing
you have options to Change the printer settings in printer driver and can
also set Color Sync Quartz filter, wheter you have set in both cases the
same.