Bob:
Welllll - Let's find out!
ocuments folder & rename Normal - just oldnormal, mynormal,Thanks Bob:Welllll - Let's find out!
Make sure NO Office apps are running. Go to the Microsoft User Data folder
in your User
whatever - then launch Word. Word will generate a new Normal (you won't see
any evidence of it although it may take Word a few seconds longer than usual
to launch.
Next, open the newly created RTF/doc & see if the macro warning reappears. I
can't imagine why it would, as RTFs *can't* store macros - but then again it
shouldn't be popping up now. If it *does*, there must be something else
within the file that has been preserved and is being interpreted as a macro.
If that 'cures' it, save the file (even though you made no changes) then
shut Word down. Go back to the MUD & delete the *new* Normal, change the old
normal's name back to Normal, then launch Word & open the file.
If that doesn't prove to be the fix I'll need to know more about the problem
child - what type of content, where did it come from, whether it's based on
a template other than Normal... Anything you can think of regardless of how
insignificant it may seem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Ok Bob:I'm relieved to hear about the RTF - was starting to think you might be
under some sort of hex
Yes, I would trash the Word doc... unless you're feeling adventurous, in
which case you may want to open it out of curiosity with the macros enabled,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to find out what the bugger is.
NOTE: I wouldn't recommend doing so, however, unless your pretty confident
the macro *isn't* one that might cause automatic damage. It also might be a
good idea to open it first with macros disabled, then go to Tools>Templates
& Add-ins to see what template the doc is based on.
Then open the RTF, Save As Word Doc & you should be good to go.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Then that confirms [pretty much] one of my first suspicions - that there is
New info Bob!
This is a different can of worms altogether - it sounds like there is aNew info Bob!Then that confirms [pretty much] one of my first suspicions - that there isOn 1/5/07 3:16 AM, in article C1C39DA3.1C828%[email protected],
I'm relieved to hear about the RTF - was starting to think you might be
under some sort of hex
Yes, I would trash the Word doc... unless you're feeling adventurous, in
which case you may want to open it out of curiosity with the macros
enabled,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to find out what the bugger is.
NOTE: I wouldn't recommend doing so, however, unless your pretty confident
the macro *isn't* one that might cause automatic damage. It also might be a
good idea to open it first with macros disabled, then go to Tools>Templates
& Add-ins to see what template the doc is based on.
Then open the RTF, Save As Word Doc & you should be good to go.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/4/07 10:43 PM, in article C1C3097F.1F60B%[email protected],
On 1/4/07 3:13 AM, in article C1C24B7F.1C75E%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 10:35 PM, in article C1C1B607.1F4F7%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 3:30 PM, in article
C1C1A6BB.1C724%[email protected],
Chances are it doesn't, but there is something about it that makes Word
think it might - hence, the warning.
Make sure that Word's Preferences>Security is still set to Warn before
opening files that contain macros. Open the file & click the button to
Disable Macros, then Save As - save the file using Rich Text Format &
click
OK to the box that indicates that all macros will be lost - that's
exactly
what you're trying to accomplish. Close the new RTF, reopen it & Save
As
a
Word doc. Then you can Trash the original doc as well as the RTF.
As to "How did they come in...", my guess is that you copied something
from
another location (the web, perhaps) that brought the offender(s) along
or
used a template that contains macros.
Just to be on the safe side, you might also create a new blank Word
doc,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to see if there is anything listed there
-
you
may have inadvertently saved the macro into your Normal template. If
there
is a macro there that shouldn't be, select it then click the Delete
button
&
confirm, then close the blank doc without saving.
If you have any further problem, post back with specifics as there are
other
possible causes that may have to be explored.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/3/07 1:29 PM, in article C1C13607.1F457%[email protected],
"kevs"
A file suddenly has macros according to word?
How did they come in and how do I get rid of them? Thanks!
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Bob:
Amazing enough, after I go through that procedure and make the "new"
word
document, the annoying message still comes up, and this is after
disabling
and coming from a RTF!
Now, I do have 1/2 dozen macros. Don't know if it's normal template or
not.
It's never bother a file before like this
But I never get this message, and it's only coming up on this one
file,none
of the hundred of other word documents that I open. Just this one, and
it
can't seem to be shaked!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Welllll - Let's find out!
Make sure NO Office apps are running. Go to the Microsoft User Data
folder
in your User
whatever - then launch Word. Word will generate a new Normal (you won't
see
any evidence of it although it may take Word a few seconds longer than
usual
to launch.
Next, open the newly created RTF/doc & see if the macro warning
reappears.
I
can't imagine why it would, as RTFs *can't* store macros - but then again
it
shouldn't be popping up now. If it *does*, there must be something else
within the file that has been preserved and is being interpreted as a
macro.
If that 'cures' it, save the file (even though you made no changes) then
shut Word down. Go back to the MUD & delete the *new* Normal, change the
old
normal's name back to Normal, then launch Word & open the file.
If that doesn't prove to be the fix I'll need to know more about the
problem
child - what type of content, where did it come from, whether it's based
on
a template other than Normal... Anything you can think of regardless of
how
insignificant it may seem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Thanks Bob:
I have RTF and Word version. The RTF
now is opening up ok.
The Word version is opening with the Macro thing with the current normal,
and a brand new one as well.
So should I just delete the word version, use the rtf and call it a day?
(other word files on hardrive seem ok)
Thanks for help!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Ok Bob:
New info:
If I open the rtf and it opens in Word and save as Word doc, that new word
doc will open with the macro message.
But if I open the rtf with text edit and save as word doc, it save is with
the word icon, but not the .doc extension, and that will open without the
cursed macro message.
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
something in the original document *content* that was triggering the
message. Saving as RTF clears any macros but apparently doesn't strip the
offending content. It's simply being rendered 'inactive' in the RTF format
file and saving back to a Word doc evidently awakens it (working only
through Word). Passing it through TextEdit apparently sterilizes the culprit
altogether.
I still have no idea what the offending content might be, but it sounds like
the copy passed through TextEdit shouldn't be a problem even if saved again
as a Word doc using Word. It might be interesting to see what happens if you
open one of the offenders, select & copy all but the last ¶ & paste into a
new blank doc.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Turns out that all new word documents get this message that has macros,
cause just discovered with another file made recently, and then tested on
new blank documents.
So I've unchecked to warn me about macros, which is a drag being I get
resumes and other stuff in e mail from people I don't know.
So the new question then is:
Why the hell are new documents getting this message when for last four years
new documents did not get these macro message ever?
(like I said, I've had for years now, the same 1/2 dozen or so macros)
Thanks!!!!!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Bob, whewwwwwwwwwThis is a different can of worms altogether - it sounds like there is aNew info Bob!On 1/5/07 11:13 PM, in article C1C461F5.1F6E1%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 3:16 AM, in article C1C39DA3.1C828%[email protected],
I'm relieved to hear about the RTF - was starting to think you might be
under some sort of hex
Yes, I would trash the Word doc... unless you're feeling adventurous, in
which case you may want to open it out of curiosity with the macros
enabled,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to find out what the bugger is.
NOTE: I wouldn't recommend doing so, however, unless your pretty confident
the macro *isn't* one that might cause automatic damage. It also might be
a
good idea to open it first with macros disabled, then go to
Tools>Templates
& Add-ins to see what template the doc is based on.
Then open the RTF, Save As Word Doc & you should be good to go.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/4/07 10:43 PM, in article C1C3097F.1F60B%[email protected],
On 1/4/07 3:13 AM, in article
C1C24B7F.1C75E%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 10:35 PM, in article C1C1B607.1F4F7%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 3:30 PM, in article
C1C1A6BB.1C724%[email protected],
Chances are it doesn't, but there is something about it that makes
Word
think it might - hence, the warning.
Make sure that Word's Preferences>Security is still set to Warn before
opening files that contain macros. Open the file & click the button to
Disable Macros, then Save As - save the file using Rich Text Format &
click
OK to the box that indicates that all macros will be lost - that's
exactly
what you're trying to accomplish. Close the new RTF, reopen it & Save
As
a
Word doc. Then you can Trash the original doc as well as the RTF.
As to "How did they come in...", my guess is that you copied something
from
another location (the web, perhaps) that brought the offender(s) along
or
used a template that contains macros.
Just to be on the safe side, you might also create a new blank Word
doc,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to see if there is anything listed there
-
you
may have inadvertently saved the macro into your Normal template. If
there
is a macro there that shouldn't be, select it then click the Delete
button
&
confirm, then close the blank doc without saving.
If you have any further problem, post back with specifics as there are
other
possible causes that may have to be explored.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/3/07 1:29 PM, in article C1C13607.1F457%[email protected],
"kevs"
A file suddenly has macros according to word?
How did they come in and how do I get rid of them? Thanks!
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Bob:
Amazing enough, after I go through that procedure and make the "new"
word
document, the annoying message still comes up, and this is after
disabling
and coming from a RTF!
Now, I do have 1/2 dozen macros. Don't know if it's normal template or
not.
It's never bother a file before like this
But I never get this message, and it's only coming up on this one
file,none
of the hundred of other word documents that I open. Just this one, and
it
can't seem to be shaked!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Welllll - Let's find out!
Make sure NO Office apps are running. Go to the Microsoft User Data
folder
in your User
mynormal,
whatever - then launch Word. Word will generate a new Normal (you won't
see
any evidence of it although it may take Word a few seconds longer than
usual
to launch.
Next, open the newly created RTF/doc & see if the macro warning
reappears.
I
can't imagine why it would, as RTFs *can't* store macros - but then
again
it
shouldn't be popping up now. If it *does*, there must be something else
within the file that has been preserved and is being interpreted as a
macro.
If that 'cures' it, save the file (even though you made no changes) then
shut Word down. Go back to the MUD & delete the *new* Normal, change the
old
normal's name back to Normal, then launch Word & open the file.
If that doesn't prove to be the fix I'll need to know more about the
problem
child - what type of content, where did it come from, whether it's based
on
a template other than Normal... Anything you can think of regardless of
how
insignificant it may seem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Thanks Bob:
I have RTF and Word version. The RTF
now is opening up ok.
The Word version is opening with the Macro thing with the current normal,
and a brand new one as well.
So should I just delete the word version, use the rtf and call it a day?
(other word files on hardrive seem ok)
Thanks for help!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Ok Bob:
New info:
If I open the rtf and it opens in Word and save as Word doc, that new word
doc will open with the macro message.
But if I open the rtf with text edit and save as word doc, it save is with
the word icon, but not the .doc extension, and that will open without the
cursed macro message.
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Then that confirms [pretty much] one of my first suspicions - that there is
something in the original document *content* that was triggering the
message. Saving as RTF clears any macros but apparently doesn't strip the
offending content. It's simply being rendered 'inactive' in the RTF format
file and saving back to a Word doc evidently awakens it (working only
through Word). Passing it through TextEdit apparently sterilizes the culprit
altogether.
I still have no idea what the offending content might be, but it sounds like
the copy passed through TextEdit shouldn't be a problem even if saved again
as a Word doc using Word. It might be interesting to see what happens if you
open one of the offenders, select & copy all but the last ¶ & paste into a
new blank doc.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Turns out that all new word documents get this message that has macros,
cause just discovered with another file made recently, and then tested on
new blank documents.
So I've unchecked to warn me about macros, which is a drag being I get
resumes and other stuff in e mail from people I don't know.
So the new question then is:
Why the hell are new documents getting this message when for last four years
new documents did not get these macro message ever?
(like I said, I've had for years now, the same 1/2 dozen or so macros)
Thanks!!!!!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
problem with Normal. I suggest you take a look at this page & follow the
instructions for testing & creating a new Normal:
http://word.mvps.org/mac/MacWordNormal.html
Especially the part that refers to Restoring Customizations in order to
preserve your macros, styles, etc. However - I would also suggest that you
take the time to restore *one* macro at a time & generate a new doc after
each import in order to see if you can determine whether one of the macros
is causing the problem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
BobBob, whewwwwwwwwwThis is a different can of worms altogether - it sounds like there is aOn 1/6/07 6:32 AM, in article C1C51D28.1CA5A%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 11:13 PM, in article C1C461F5.1F6E1%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 3:16 AM, in article C1C39DA3.1C828%[email protected],
I'm relieved to hear about the RTF - was starting to think you might be
under some sort of hex
Yes, I would trash the Word doc... unless you're feeling adventurous, in
which case you may want to open it out of curiosity with the macros
enabled,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to find out what the bugger is.
NOTE: I wouldn't recommend doing so, however, unless your pretty
confident
the macro *isn't* one that might cause automatic damage. It also might be
a
good idea to open it first with macros disabled, then go to
Tools>Templates
& Add-ins to see what template the doc is based on.
Then open the RTF, Save As Word Doc & you should be good to go.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/4/07 10:43 PM, in article C1C3097F.1F60B%[email protected],
On 1/4/07 3:13 AM, in article
C1C24B7F.1C75E%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 10:35 PM, in article C1C1B607.1F4F7%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 3:30 PM, in article
C1C1A6BB.1C724%[email protected],
Chances are it doesn't, but there is something about it that makes
Word
think it might - hence, the warning.
Make sure that Word's Preferences>Security is still set to Warn
before
opening files that contain macros. Open the file & click the button
to
Disable Macros, then Save As - save the file using Rich Text Format &
click
OK to the box that indicates that all macros will be lost - that's
exactly
what you're trying to accomplish. Close the new RTF, reopen it & Save
As
a
Word doc. Then you can Trash the original doc as well as the RTF.
As to "How did they come in...", my guess is that you copied
something
from
another location (the web, perhaps) that brought the offender(s)
along
or
used a template that contains macros.
Just to be on the safe side, you might also create a new blank Word
doc,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to see if there is anything listed
there
-
you
may have inadvertently saved the macro into your Normal template. If
there
is a macro there that shouldn't be, select it then click the Delete
button
&
confirm, then close the blank doc without saving.
If you have any further problem, post back with specifics as there
are
other
possible causes that may have to be explored.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/3/07 1:29 PM, in article C1C13607.1F457%[email protected],
"kevs"
A file suddenly has macros according to word?
How did they come in and how do I get rid of them? Thanks!
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Bob:
Amazing enough, after I go through that procedure and make the "new"
word
document, the annoying message still comes up, and this is after
disabling
and coming from a RTF!
Now, I do have 1/2 dozen macros. Don't know if it's normal template or
not.
It's never bother a file before like this
But I never get this message, and it's only coming up on this one
file,none
of the hundred of other word documents that I open. Just this one, and
it
can't seem to be shaked!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Welllll - Let's find out!
Make sure NO Office apps are running. Go to the Microsoft User Data
folder
in your User
mynormal,
whatever - then launch Word. Word will generate a new Normal (you won't
see
any evidence of it although it may take Word a few seconds longer than
usual
to launch.
Next, open the newly created RTF/doc & see if the macro warning
reappears.
I
can't imagine why it would, as RTFs *can't* store macros - but then
again
it
shouldn't be popping up now. If it *does*, there must be something else
within the file that has been preserved and is being interpreted as a
macro.
If that 'cures' it, save the file (even though you made no changes)
then
shut Word down. Go back to the MUD & delete the *new* Normal, change
the
old
normal's name back to Normal, then launch Word & open the file.
If that doesn't prove to be the fix I'll need to know more about the
problem
child - what type of content, where did it come from, whether it's
based
on
a template other than Normal... Anything you can think of regardless of
how
insignificant it may seem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Thanks Bob:
I have RTF and Word version. The RTF
now is opening up ok.
The Word version is opening with the Macro thing with the current
normal,
and a brand new one as well.
So should I just delete the word version, use the rtf and call it a day?
(other word files on hardrive seem ok)
Thanks for help!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Ok Bob:
New info:
If I open the rtf and it opens in Word and save as Word doc, that new word
doc will open with the macro message.
But if I open the rtf with text edit and save as word doc, it save is with
the word icon, but not the .doc extension, and that will open without the
cursed macro message.
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Then that confirms [pretty much] one of my first suspicions - that there is
something in the original document *content* that was triggering the
message. Saving as RTF clears any macros but apparently doesn't strip the
offending content. It's simply being rendered 'inactive' in the RTF format
file and saving back to a Word doc evidently awakens it (working only
through Word). Passing it through TextEdit apparently sterilizes the
culprit
altogether.
I still have no idea what the offending content might be, but it sounds
like
the copy passed through TextEdit shouldn't be a problem even if saved again
as a Word doc using Word. It might be interesting to see what happens if
you
open one of the offenders, select & copy all but the last ¶ & paste into a
new blank doc.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
New info Bob!
Turns out that all new word documents get this message that has macros,
cause just discovered with another file made recently, and then tested on
new blank documents.
So I've unchecked to warn me about macros, which is a drag being I get
resumes and other stuff in e mail from people I don't know.
So the new question then is:
Why the hell are new documents getting this message when for last four years
new documents did not get these macro message ever?
(like I said, I've had for years now, the same 1/2 dozen or so macros)
Thanks!!!!!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
problem with Normal. I suggest you take a look at this page & follow the
instructions for testing & creating a new Normal:
http://word.mvps.org/mac/MacWordNormal.html
Especially the part that refers to Restoring Customizations in order to
preserve your macros, styles, etc. However - I would also suggest that you
take the time to restore *one* macro at a time & generate a new doc after
each import in order to see if you can determine whether one of the macros
is causing the problem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
I was just about to go to work on this, and it seems to have resolved on
it's own, reboot? Who knows.
Thanks for great help really appreciate it, and I'll be back if it
resurfaces.
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Ok, Bob, I did it and made the new normal, everything good, except macrosBobBob, whewwwwwwwwwOn 1/6/07 1:32 PM, in article C1C52B31.1F71F%[email protected], "kevs"
On 1/6/07 6:32 AM, in article C1C51D28.1CA5A%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 11:13 PM, in article C1C461F5.1F6E1%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 3:16 AM, in article
C1C39DA3.1C828%[email protected],
I'm relieved to hear about the RTF - was starting to think you might be
under some sort of hex
Yes, I would trash the Word doc... unless you're feeling adventurous, in
which case you may want to open it out of curiosity with the macros
enabled,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to find out what the bugger is.
NOTE: I wouldn't recommend doing so, however, unless your pretty
confident
the macro *isn't* one that might cause automatic damage. It also might
be
a
good idea to open it first with macros disabled, then go to
Tools>Templates
& Add-ins to see what template the doc is based on.
Then open the RTF, Save As Word Doc & you should be good to go.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/4/07 10:43 PM, in article C1C3097F.1F60B%[email protected],
On 1/4/07 3:13 AM, in article
C1C24B7F.1C75E%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 10:35 PM, in article C1C1B607.1F4F7%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 3:30 PM, in article
C1C1A6BB.1C724%[email protected],
Chances are it doesn't, but there is something about it that makes
Word
think it might - hence, the warning.
Make sure that Word's Preferences>Security is still set to Warn
before
opening files that contain macros. Open the file & click the button
to
Disable Macros, then Save As - save the file using Rich Text Format
&
click
OK to the box that indicates that all macros will be lost - that's
exactly
what you're trying to accomplish. Close the new RTF, reopen it &
Save
As
a
Word doc. Then you can Trash the original doc as well as the RTF.
As to "How did they come in...", my guess is that you copied
something
from
another location (the web, perhaps) that brought the offender(s)
along
or
used a template that contains macros.
Just to be on the safe side, you might also create a new blank Word
doc,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to see if there is anything listed
there
-
you
may have inadvertently saved the macro into your Normal template. If
there
is a macro there that shouldn't be, select it then click the Delete
button
&
confirm, then close the blank doc without saving.
If you have any further problem, post back with specifics as there
are
other
possible causes that may have to be explored.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/3/07 1:29 PM, in article
C1C13607.1F457%[email protected],
"kevs"
A file suddenly has macros according to word?
How did they come in and how do I get rid of them? Thanks!
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Bob:
Amazing enough, after I go through that procedure and make the "new"
word
document, the annoying message still comes up, and this is after
disabling
and coming from a RTF!
Now, I do have 1/2 dozen macros. Don't know if it's normal template
or
not.
It's never bother a file before like this
But I never get this message, and it's only coming up on this one
file,none
of the hundred of other word documents that I open. Just this one,
and
it
can't seem to be shaked!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Welllll - Let's find out!
Make sure NO Office apps are running. Go to the Microsoft User Data
folder
in your User
mynormal,
whatever - then launch Word. Word will generate a new Normal (you
won't
see
any evidence of it although it may take Word a few seconds longer than
usual
to launch.
Next, open the newly created RTF/doc & see if the macro warning
reappears.
I
can't imagine why it would, as RTFs *can't* store macros - but then
again
it
shouldn't be popping up now. If it *does*, there must be something
else
within the file that has been preserved and is being interpreted as a
macro.
If that 'cures' it, save the file (even though you made no changes)
then
shut Word down. Go back to the MUD & delete the *new* Normal, change
the
old
normal's name back to Normal, then launch Word & open the file.
If that doesn't prove to be the fix I'll need to know more about the
problem
child - what type of content, where did it come from, whether it's
based
on
a template other than Normal... Anything you can think of regardless
of
how
insignificant it may seem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Thanks Bob:
I have RTF and Word version. The RTF
now is opening up ok.
The Word version is opening with the Macro thing with the current
normal,
and a brand new one as well.
So should I just delete the word version, use the rtf and call it a
day?
(other word files on hardrive seem ok)
Thanks for help!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Ok Bob:
New info:
If I open the rtf and it opens in Word and save as Word doc, that new
word
doc will open with the macro message.
But if I open the rtf with text edit and save as word doc, it save is
with
the word icon, but not the .doc extension, and that will open without the
cursed macro message.
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Then that confirms [pretty much] one of my first suspicions - that there
is
something in the original document *content* that was triggering the
message. Saving as RTF clears any macros but apparently doesn't strip the
offending content. It's simply being rendered 'inactive' in the RTF format
file and saving back to a Word doc evidently awakens it (working only
through Word). Passing it through TextEdit apparently sterilizes the
culprit
altogether.
I still have no idea what the offending content might be, but it sounds
like
the copy passed through TextEdit shouldn't be a problem even if saved
again
as a Word doc using Word. It might be interesting to see what happens if
you
open one of the offenders, select & copy all but the last ¶ & paste into a
new blank doc.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
New info Bob!
Turns out that all new word documents get this message that has macros,
cause just discovered with another file made recently, and then tested on
new blank documents.
So I've unchecked to warn me about macros, which is a drag being I get
resumes and other stuff in e mail from people I don't know.
So the new question then is:
Why the hell are new documents getting this message when for last four
years
new documents did not get these macro message ever?
(like I said, I've had for years now, the same 1/2 dozen or so macros)
Thanks!!!!!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
This is a different can of worms altogether - it sounds like there is a
problem with Normal. I suggest you take a look at this page & follow the
instructions for testing & creating a new Normal:
http://word.mvps.org/mac/MacWordNormal.html
Especially the part that refers to Restoring Customizations in order to
preserve your macros, styles, etc. However - I would also suggest that you
take the time to restore *one* macro at a time & generate a new doc after
each import in order to see if you can determine whether one of the macros
is causing the problem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
I was just about to go to work on this, and it seems to have resolved on
it's own, reboot? Who knows.
Thanks for great help really appreciate it, and I'll be back if it
resurfaces.
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
The problem did not go away!
Actually, I thought it did because I unchecked the warn before opening if
has macro.
So yes, all new documents have with stupid warning now.
I printed out your document, but its very draining and convoluted.
Can you please give me the nutshell of what to do?
And why am I getting this?
And what about the two dozen or so new word documents on my hard drive
created after this problem started? I should make all those RTFs/ thanks?
You always recommend keeping that warning checked?
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Sorry I haven't been available - in SF for MacWorld & just got back thisOk, Bob, I did it and made the new normal, everything good, except macrosBobOn 1/6/07 5:11 PM, in article C1C5B2E7.1CAB8%[email protected],
On 1/6/07 1:32 PM, in article C1C52B31.1F71F%[email protected],
"kevs"
On 1/6/07 6:32 AM, in article C1C51D28.1CA5A%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 11:13 PM, in article C1C461F5.1F6E1%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 3:16 AM, in article
C1C39DA3.1C828%[email protected],
I'm relieved to hear about the RTF - was starting to think you might be
under some sort of hex
Yes, I would trash the Word doc... unless you're feeling adventurous,
in
which case you may want to open it out of curiosity with the macros
enabled,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to find out what the bugger is.
NOTE: I wouldn't recommend doing so, however, unless your pretty
confident
the macro *isn't* one that might cause automatic damage. It also might
be
a
good idea to open it first with macros disabled, then go to
Tools>Templates
& Add-ins to see what template the doc is based on.
Then open the RTF, Save As Word Doc & you should be good to go.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/4/07 10:43 PM, in article C1C3097F.1F60B%[email protected],
On 1/4/07 3:13 AM, in article
C1C24B7F.1C75E%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 10:35 PM, in article
C1C1B607.1F4F7%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 3:30 PM, in article
C1C1A6BB.1C724%[email protected],
Chances are it doesn't, but there is something about it that makes
Word
think it might - hence, the warning.
Make sure that Word's Preferences>Security is still set to Warn
before
opening files that contain macros. Open the file & click the button
to
Disable Macros, then Save As - save the file using Rich Text Format
&
click
OK to the box that indicates that all macros will be lost - that's
exactly
what you're trying to accomplish. Close the new RTF, reopen it &
Save
As
a
Word doc. Then you can Trash the original doc as well as the RTF.
As to "How did they come in...", my guess is that you copied
something
from
another location (the web, perhaps) that brought the offender(s)
along
or
used a template that contains macros.
Just to be on the safe side, you might also create a new blank Word
doc,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to see if there is anything listed
there
-
you
may have inadvertently saved the macro into your Normal template.
If
there
is a macro there that shouldn't be, select it then click the Delete
button
&
confirm, then close the blank doc without saving.
If you have any further problem, post back with specifics as there
are
other
possible causes that may have to be explored.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/3/07 1:29 PM, in article
C1C13607.1F457%[email protected],
"kevs"
A file suddenly has macros according to word?
How did they come in and how do I get rid of them? Thanks!
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Bob:
Amazing enough, after I go through that procedure and make the "new"
word
document, the annoying message still comes up, and this is after
disabling
and coming from a RTF!
Now, I do have 1/2 dozen macros. Don't know if it's normal template
or
not.
It's never bother a file before like this
But I never get this message, and it's only coming up on this one
file,none
of the hundred of other word documents that I open. Just this one,
and
it
can't seem to be shaked!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Welllll - Let's find out!
Make sure NO Office apps are running. Go to the Microsoft User Data
folder
in your User
mynormal,
whatever - then launch Word. Word will generate a new Normal (you
won't
see
any evidence of it although it may take Word a few seconds longer
than
usual
to launch.
Next, open the newly created RTF/doc & see if the macro warning
reappears.
I
can't imagine why it would, as RTFs *can't* store macros - but then
again
it
shouldn't be popping up now. If it *does*, there must be something
else
within the file that has been preserved and is being interpreted as a
macro.
If that 'cures' it, save the file (even though you made no changes)
then
shut Word down. Go back to the MUD & delete the *new* Normal, change
the
old
normal's name back to Normal, then launch Word & open the file.
If that doesn't prove to be the fix I'll need to know more about the
problem
child - what type of content, where did it come from, whether it's
based
on
a template other than Normal... Anything you can think of regardless
of
how
insignificant it may seem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Thanks Bob:
I have RTF and Word version. The RTF
now is opening up ok.
The Word version is opening with the Macro thing with the current
normal,
and a brand new one as well.
So should I just delete the word version, use the rtf and call it a
day?
(other word files on hardrive seem ok)
Thanks for help!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Ok Bob:
New info:
If I open the rtf and it opens in Word and save as Word doc, that new
word
doc will open with the macro message.
But if I open the rtf with text edit and save as word doc, it save is
with
the word icon, but not the .doc extension, and that will open without
the
cursed macro message.
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Then that confirms [pretty much] one of my first suspicions - that there
is
something in the original document *content* that was triggering the
message. Saving as RTF clears any macros but apparently doesn't strip the
offending content. It's simply being rendered 'inactive' in the RTF
format
file and saving back to a Word doc evidently awakens it (working only
through Word). Passing it through TextEdit apparently sterilizes the
culprit
altogether.
I still have no idea what the offending content might be, but it sounds
like
the copy passed through TextEdit shouldn't be a problem even if saved
again
as a Word doc using Word. It might be interesting to see what happens if
you
open one of the offenders, select & copy all but the last ¶ & paste into
a
new blank doc.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
New info Bob!
Turns out that all new word documents get this message that has macros,
cause just discovered with another file made recently, and then tested on
new blank documents.
So I've unchecked to warn me about macros, which is a drag being I get
resumes and other stuff in e mail from people I don't know.
So the new question then is:
Why the hell are new documents getting this message when for last four
years
new documents did not get these macro message ever?
(like I said, I've had for years now, the same 1/2 dozen or so macros)
Thanks!!!!!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
This is a different can of worms altogether - it sounds like there is a
problem with Normal. I suggest you take a look at this page & follow the
instructions for testing & creating a new Normal:
http://word.mvps.org/mac/MacWordNormal.html
Especially the part that refers to Restoring Customizations in order to
preserve your macros, styles, etc. However - I would also suggest that you
take the time to restore *one* macro at a time & generate a new doc after
each import in order to see if you can determine whether one of the macros
is causing the problem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Bob, whewwwwwwwww
I was just about to go to work on this, and it seems to have resolved on
it's own, reboot? Who knows.
Thanks for great help really appreciate it, and I'll be back if it
resurfaces.
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
The problem did not go away!
Actually, I thought it did because I unchecked the warn before opening if
has macro.
So yes, all new documents have with stupid warning now.
I printed out your document, but its very draining and convoluted.
Can you please give me the nutshell of what to do?
And why am I getting this?
And what about the two dozen or so new word documents on my hard drive
created after this problem started? I should make all those RTFs/ thanks?
You always recommend keeping that warning checked?
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
are gone, but maybe that the point?
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Thanks Bob, no, they would not come over, I got styles, but macros, did notSorry I haven't been available - in SF for MacWorld & just got back thisOk, Bob, I did it and made the new normal, everything good, except macrosOn 1/7/07 8:06 PM, in article C1C70351.1F7E5%[email protected], "kevs"
On 1/6/07 5:11 PM, in article C1C5B2E7.1CAB8%[email protected],
On 1/6/07 1:32 PM, in article C1C52B31.1F71F%[email protected],
"kevs"
On 1/6/07 6:32 AM, in article
C1C51D28.1CA5A%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 11:13 PM, in article C1C461F5.1F6E1%[email protected],
On 1/5/07 3:16 AM, in article
C1C39DA3.1C828%[email protected],
I'm relieved to hear about the RTF - was starting to think you might
be
under some sort of hex
Yes, I would trash the Word doc... unless you're feeling adventurous,
in
which case you may want to open it out of curiosity with the macros
enabled,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to find out what the bugger is.
NOTE: I wouldn't recommend doing so, however, unless your pretty
confident
the macro *isn't* one that might cause automatic damage. It also might
be
a
good idea to open it first with macros disabled, then go to
Tools>Templates
& Add-ins to see what template the doc is based on.
Then open the RTF, Save As Word Doc & you should be good to go.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/4/07 10:43 PM, in article C1C3097F.1F60B%[email protected],
On 1/4/07 3:13 AM, in article
C1C24B7F.1C75E%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 10:35 PM, in article
C1C1B607.1F4F7%[email protected],
On 1/3/07 3:30 PM, in article
C1C1A6BB.1C724%[email protected],
Chances are it doesn't, but there is something about it that makes
Word
think it might - hence, the warning.
Make sure that Word's Preferences>Security is still set to Warn
before
opening files that contain macros. Open the file & click the button
to
Disable Macros, then Save As - save the file using Rich Text Format
&
click
OK to the box that indicates that all macros will be lost - that's
exactly
what you're trying to accomplish. Close the new RTF, reopen it &
Save
As
a
Word doc. Then you can Trash the original doc as well as the RTF.
As to "How did they come in...", my guess is that you copied
something
from
another location (the web, perhaps) that brought the offender(s)
along
or
used a template that contains macros.
Just to be on the safe side, you might also create a new blank Word
doc,
then go to Tools>Macro>Macros to see if there is anything listed
there
-
you
may have inadvertently saved the macro into your Normal template.
If
there
is a macro there that shouldn't be, select it then click the Delete
button
&
confirm, then close the blank doc without saving.
If you have any further problem, post back with specifics as there
are
other
possible causes that may have to be explored.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/3/07 1:29 PM, in article
C1C13607.1F457%[email protected],
"kevs"
A file suddenly has macros according to word?
How did they come in and how do I get rid of them? Thanks!
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Bob:
Amazing enough, after I go through that procedure and make the
"new"
word
document, the annoying message still comes up, and this is after
disabling
and coming from a RTF!
Now, I do have 1/2 dozen macros. Don't know if it's normal template
or
not.
It's never bother a file before like this
But I never get this message, and it's only coming up on this one
file,none
of the hundred of other word documents that I open. Just this one,
and
it
can't seem to be shaked!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Welllll - Let's find out!
Make sure NO Office apps are running. Go to the Microsoft User Data
folder
in your User
mynormal,
whatever - then launch Word. Word will generate a new Normal (you
won't
see
any evidence of it although it may take Word a few seconds longer
than
usual
to launch.
Next, open the newly created RTF/doc & see if the macro warning
reappears.
I
can't imagine why it would, as RTFs *can't* store macros - but then
again
it
shouldn't be popping up now. If it *does*, there must be something
else
within the file that has been preserved and is being interpreted as
a
macro.
If that 'cures' it, save the file (even though you made no changes)
then
shut Word down. Go back to the MUD & delete the *new* Normal, change
the
old
normal's name back to Normal, then launch Word & open the file.
If that doesn't prove to be the fix I'll need to know more about the
problem
child - what type of content, where did it come from, whether it's
based
on
a template other than Normal... Anything you can think of regardless
of
how
insignificant it may seem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Thanks Bob:
I have RTF and Word version. The RTF
now is opening up ok.
The Word version is opening with the Macro thing with the current
normal,
and a brand new one as well.
So should I just delete the word version, use the rtf and call it a
day?
(other word files on hardrive seem ok)
Thanks for help!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Ok Bob:
New info:
If I open the rtf and it opens in Word and save as Word doc, that new
word
doc will open with the macro message.
But if I open the rtf with text edit and save as word doc, it save is
with
the word icon, but not the .doc extension, and that will open without
the
cursed macro message.
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Then that confirms [pretty much] one of my first suspicions - that there
is
something in the original document *content* that was triggering the
message. Saving as RTF clears any macros but apparently doesn't strip
the
offending content. It's simply being rendered 'inactive' in the RTF
format
file and saving back to a Word doc evidently awakens it (working only
through Word). Passing it through TextEdit apparently sterilizes the
culprit
altogether.
I still have no idea what the offending content might be, but it sounds
like
the copy passed through TextEdit shouldn't be a problem even if saved
again
as a Word doc using Word. It might be interesting to see what happens if
you
open one of the offenders, select & copy all but the last ¶ & paste into
a
new blank doc.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
New info Bob!
Turns out that all new word documents get this message that has macros,
cause just discovered with another file made recently, and then tested on
new blank documents.
So I've unchecked to warn me about macros, which is a drag being I get
resumes and other stuff in e mail from people I don't know.
So the new question then is:
Why the hell are new documents getting this message when for last four
years
new documents did not get these macro message ever?
(like I said, I've had for years now, the same 1/2 dozen or so macros)
Thanks!!!!!
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
This is a different can of worms altogether - it sounds like there is a
problem with Normal. I suggest you take a look at this page & follow the
instructions for testing & creating a new Normal:
http://word.mvps.org/mac/MacWordNormal.html
Especially the part that refers to Restoring Customizations in order to
preserve your macros, styles, etc. However - I would also suggest that you
take the time to restore *one* macro at a time & generate a new doc after
each import in order to see if you can determine whether one of the macros
is causing the problem.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Bob, whewwwwwwwww
I was just about to go to work on this, and it seems to have resolved on
it's own, reboot? Who knows.
Thanks for great help really appreciate it, and I'll be back if it
resurfaces.
Kevs
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
Bob
The problem did not go away!
Actually, I thought it did because I unchecked the warn before opening if
has macro.
So yes, all new documents have with stupid warning now.
I printed out your document, but its very draining and convoluted.
Can you please give me the nutshell of what to do?
And why am I getting this?
And what about the two dozen or so new word documents on my hard drive
created after this problem started? I should make all those RTFs/ thanks?
You always recommend keeping that warning checked?
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
are gone, but maybe that the point?
OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
weekend...
Hopefully you didn't Trash your original Normal - as I said in my last post
you can recover your macros from it using the Organizer. Reread the para
that starts with the word "Especially" referring to the Restoring
Customizations portion of the web page.
As far as the warning, I normally keep it Off, but I'm sure I work
differently than many including you. In your case it might be best to leave
it On so you will be aware of any changes being saved to Normal. That
includes any new macros, styles & formatted AutoText as well as any changes
to existing ones. If you're not certain that the change should be saved you
can avoid doing so.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac