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Callnet
Is it me looking in the wrong place, or has the 'find file' function
disappeared from office 2004?
Tim
disappeared from office 2004?
Tim
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Jim Gordon MVP
Have you ever run into a situation where you accidentally ask someone about
a family member who has done something very wrong and you realize that you
are asking about something very sensitive, but you didn't know?
Like if you inquire about about Aunt Mona and she's been sent away to an
insane asylum after killing her kids. Or perhaps about Uncle Ned, a
policeman serving 10 years in jail because he got caught reading a naughty
magazine while he was in the bathroom of the police station.
When I asked about FindFile in Office 2004 I got the same kind of response
from Microsoft. It seems to be a touchy subject internally and they don't
really want to talk about it.
Suffice it to say something went wrong with FindFile somewhere along the
way. I think the problems started in Office 2003 (Windows) and cascaded into
Office 2004 (Mac). I don't know what FindFile did, but it's been banished.
I have no real clue as to why, but FindFile is definitely AWOL from Office
2003 and 2004.
You can use the feedback feature in Word to request that FindFile be
restored, but please be tactful. Just mentioning FindFile to Microsoft is,
well, stressful somehow.
-Jim
--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP
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a family member who has done something very wrong and you realize that you
are asking about something very sensitive, but you didn't know?
Like if you inquire about about Aunt Mona and she's been sent away to an
insane asylum after killing her kids. Or perhaps about Uncle Ned, a
policeman serving 10 years in jail because he got caught reading a naughty
magazine while he was in the bathroom of the police station.
When I asked about FindFile in Office 2004 I got the same kind of response
from Microsoft. It seems to be a touchy subject internally and they don't
really want to talk about it.
Suffice it to say something went wrong with FindFile somewhere along the
way. I think the problems started in Office 2003 (Windows) and cascaded into
Office 2004 (Mac). I don't know what FindFile did, but it's been banished.
I have no real clue as to why, but FindFile is definitely AWOL from Office
2003 and 2004.
You can use the feedback feature in Word to request that FindFile be
restored, but please be tactful. Just mentioning FindFile to Microsoft is,
well, stressful somehow.
-Jim
--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP
MVPs are not Microsoft Employees
MVP info
B
Bill Weylock
I do appreciate the humor, but it's no small loss. I couldn't find something
the other day. Still have not found it. I knew some internal text and had
grown up thinking that would be enough to find a document in a pinch.
Consequently, I have never worried about naming things so that I would be
able to figure out the subject matter. Letters to people are LetDorothy1,
LetDorothy2, etc.
Who would expect less functionality out of nowhere. Mac indexing doesn't
seem to work either. I've never bothered to learn it because it took forever
to set up and seemed stupid.
What were they thinking? Or WERE they.....?
Best,
- Bill
the other day. Still have not found it. I knew some internal text and had
grown up thinking that would be enough to find a document in a pinch.
Consequently, I have never worried about naming things so that I would be
able to figure out the subject matter. Letters to people are LetDorothy1,
LetDorothy2, etc.
Who would expect less functionality out of nowhere. Mac indexing doesn't
seem to work either. I've never bothered to learn it because it took forever
to set up and seemed stupid.
What were they thinking? Or WERE they.....?
Best,
- Bill
J
Jim Gordon MVP
If it¹s any consolation, Microsoft employees are now reading this particular
newsgroup, so your comments will at least be read and noted.
-Jim
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Jim Gordon
Mac MVP
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newsgroup, so your comments will at least be read and noted.
-Jim
I do appreciate the humor, but it's no small loss. I couldn't find something
the other day. Still have not found it. I knew some internal text and had
grown up thinking that would be enough to find a document in a pinch.
Consequently, I have never worried about naming things so that I would be able
to figure out the subject matter. Letters to people are LetDorothy1,
LetDorothy2, etc.
Who would expect less functionality out of nowhere. Mac indexing doesn't seem
to work either. I've never bothered to learn it because it took forever to set
up and seemed stupid.
What were they thinking? Or WERE they.....?
Best,
- Bill
--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP
MVPs are not Microsoft Employees
MVP info
B
Bill Weylock
It is some consolation, but I hope the only ones reading are not the people
who decided it would be okay to remove it.
Best,
- Bill
who decided it would be okay to remove it.
Best,
- Bill
C
Callnet
Have you ever run into a situation where you accidentally ask someone about
a family member who has done something very wrong and you realize that you
are asking about something very sensitive, but you didn't know?
Like if you inquire about about Aunt Mona and she's been sent away to an
insane asylum after killing her kids. Or perhaps about Uncle Ned, a
policeman serving 10 years in jail because he got caught reading a naughty
magazine while he was in the bathroom of the police station.
When I asked about FindFile in Office 2004 I got the same kind of response
from Microsoft. It seems to be a touchy subject internally and they don't
really want to talk about it.
Suffice it to say something went wrong with FindFile somewhere along the
way. I think the problems started in Office 2003 (Windows) and cascaded into
Office 2004 (Mac). I don't know what FindFile did, but it's been banished.
I have no real clue as to why, but FindFile is definitely AWOL from Office
2003 and 2004.
You can use the feedback feature in Word to request that FindFile be
restored, but please be tactful. Just mentioning FindFile to Microsoft is,
well, stressful somehow.
-Jim
Well it had definitely become ill in recent versions - it had a horrible
windows folder look and feel, and V.X was subject to crashes. However, it
did seem to work a bit better than OSX indexing, which I find patchy to put
it mildly.
You would think though that a powerful word editor would be able to look in
its own files for, er, well words!
Come on MBU, I know you can do it!
P
Paul Berkowitz
On the contrary. Those are precisely the people you'd want to read it, since
they're the people who can get it fixed. In some cases, it will be
"lower-level" people reading, organizing, and then sending the messages on -
in some cases it might even be the very people who participated in the
decision.
Lots of Word code is very ancient - "crufty" is the popular term. When
changes are made to either Word code or OS code, it can affect other things
in Word. I'd be inclined towards thinking that anything involving files in
the file system is quite probably related to OS X. The "touchiness" among MS
support staff you sensed could be a reluctance to blame Apple. Or it could
be within Word itself, of course. In any case, sometimes huge bugs are
exposed when something else is changed. There may not have been time to
re-write all the code for this release, particularly as rewriting it might
set of 106 other bugs. All of that has to be tested, tested, and re-tested.
They hate creating new bugs where stuffed worked before. The same applies to
removing functionality that worked before, as here. Making it clear here
that you need the functionality is the surest way to get it back. In fact,
I'd go so far as to say something like this might even be a candidate for
fixing it for a service release. The more people request it, the more likely
it becomes a higher priority. I think that "lost functionality" will already
make it an extremely high priority, but it can only help to say so. As
always, it's the ratio of cost (work required) vs. benefit that determines
if something happens. But "it used to work and now it doesn't, and I need
it" will raise the benefit side of the equation enormously. And "time
available" - hopefully more now than just before release, should lower the
cost side of the equation. Of course if the problem actually is on the Apple
side, it may need to await an OS fix first.
--
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From: Bill Weylock <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.word
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 13:41:06 -0700
Subject: Re: Find file
It is some consolation, but I hope the only ones reading are not the people
who decided it would be okay to remove it.
Best,
- Bill
they're the people who can get it fixed. In some cases, it will be
"lower-level" people reading, organizing, and then sending the messages on -
in some cases it might even be the very people who participated in the
decision.
Lots of Word code is very ancient - "crufty" is the popular term. When
changes are made to either Word code or OS code, it can affect other things
in Word. I'd be inclined towards thinking that anything involving files in
the file system is quite probably related to OS X. The "touchiness" among MS
support staff you sensed could be a reluctance to blame Apple. Or it could
be within Word itself, of course. In any case, sometimes huge bugs are
exposed when something else is changed. There may not have been time to
re-write all the code for this release, particularly as rewriting it might
set of 106 other bugs. All of that has to be tested, tested, and re-tested.
They hate creating new bugs where stuffed worked before. The same applies to
removing functionality that worked before, as here. Making it clear here
that you need the functionality is the surest way to get it back. In fact,
I'd go so far as to say something like this might even be a candidate for
fixing it for a service release. The more people request it, the more likely
it becomes a higher priority. I think that "lost functionality" will already
make it an extremely high priority, but it can only help to say so. As
always, it's the ratio of cost (work required) vs. benefit that determines
if something happens. But "it used to work and now it doesn't, and I need
it" will raise the benefit side of the equation enormously. And "time
available" - hopefully more now than just before release, should lower the
cost side of the equation. Of course if the problem actually is on the Apple
side, it may need to await an OS fix first.
--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
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From: Bill Weylock <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.word
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 13:41:06 -0700
Subject: Re: Find file
It is some consolation, but I hope the only ones reading are not the people
who decided it would be okay to remove it.
Best,
- Bill
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