Firefox - no wordart

[Rack Jite]

When I check out the page in Firefox it shows the PLACE TEXT
HERE message where the Frontpage Wordart is when viewing in
IE. Any fix for that?

ALso I recently found that putting in a midi file into the
PAGE BACKGROUND link, and then going to the code and
changing the name to an MP3 on the server, it plays fine in
IE but does not play in FIREFOX. Any fix for that?

 

[Windsun]

Don't use Wordart - IE is the only browser in the world that it works with

 

[chris]

another reason not to use wordart-
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2020256,00.asp

BGSOUND works only in IE. If you want music that will play in a variety
of browsers, embed it.

I don't quite understand why you changed the file extension. It should
not have been necessary. midi format is more appropriate as a BG sound
than mp3 since midis tend to be small files that have half a chance of
loading to the page before a visitor is done reading it.

And then there is the rest of the universe where automatically loading
sound files are hated. They're a quick giveaway for anyone surfing the
net at work and intrude on music that may already be playing through a
visitor's pc. Given the choice, don't use sound on a web page

 

[Mike Mueller]

WordArt is rendered using the Vector Markup Language (VML),
which is only supported in IE. Other items that may end up
being VMLd are shapes and some clip art- don't 'directly'
use any of them on a web page.
Best method if you do need to have these things is to do the
WordArt et al in Publisher, and save the page as an image
(GIF or JPG), and then trim the image file and bring it in
as any other graphic

: When I check out the page in Firefox it shows the PLACE
TEXT
: HERE message where the Frontpage Wordart is when viewing
in
: IE. Any fix for that?
:
: ALso I recently found that putting in a midi file into the
: PAGE BACKGROUND link, and then going to the code and
: changing the name to an MP3 on the server, it plays fine
in
: IE but does not play in FIREFOX. Any fix for that?

 

[Rack Jite]

I understand about the embeding being unpopular, that is why
I wanted the midi volume control. And it worked well, the
midi plays just barely load enough to know its there.
Cant be heard from an ajoining cubicle!
Anyone who wants to embed a midi and doesnt for your good
reason, doing the volume="40%" works well to knock it down
enough to not matter.

I thought using the PAGE background was embeding it.
So to get my midi to play in firefox, what exactly do I do?
Whats the html embed a midi line look like?

Redesigning my page for the first time since Firefox came
out I was surprised by the many things it didnt do and
formated differently than IE. From the stats counter I was
also surprised that over a third of visitors are using it.

From the point of view of webmastering, I don't like it!

Those TABS are cool though, does IE 7 have those?

 

[Rack Jite]

Don't use Wordart - IE is the only browser in the world that it works with

I figured it out! Take a screen shot of the page, go to
your graphics program and make a jpg of the word art area,
transparensize, it worked perfectly.

 

[chris]

re embed- not embedding if you use the proprietary IE html sound tag
BGSOUND which works only in IE.
see here for embed instructions that will work in Firefox and other
browsers: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/196138/

 

[Mike Mueller]

I really wouldn't say that Firefox or IE does / doesn't do
things (properly). CSS hacks for getting IE to do it as
intended are turning many webmasters hair grey and/or
falling out, as IE7 follows the standards better than
previous incarnations- which needed to be hacked together.

IE7 does use tabs, and follows the FF & NS methods of
hyperlinking
click- open link
<ctrl> + click- open link in new tab
<shift> + click- open link in new window

FF popularity varies from site to site, as different sites
have different types of users who visit. I have a site split
on 2 servers, the general site is 84% IE while the more
in-depth portion is only 79% IE

Public libraries in my neck of the woods are all using
NetScape

Opera; another popular tabbed browser, does not use the same
click styles- <shift>click opens in a new tab and <ctrl>
click opens just like a standard click


....
: Redesigning my page for the first time since Firefox came
: out I was surprised by the many things it didnt do and
: formated differently than IE. From the stats counter I was
: also surprised that over a third of visitors are using it.
:
: From the point of view of webmastering, I don't like it!
:
: Those TABS are cool though, does IE 7 have those?

 

[Rack Jite]

re embed- not embedding if you use the proprietary IE html sound tag
BGSOUND which works only in IE.
see here for embed instructions that will work in Firefox and other
browsers: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/196138/

Here is the code I found. Trouble is when I add the
volume="40%" it doesnt take. No matter what number I put in
it, it does not change.


<embed src="Dixie.mid" hidden="true" align="baseline"
border="0" width="128" height="128" autostart="true"
autoplay="true" volume="40%">

 

[chris]

Your code looks fine and works for me every which way I try it both live
and locally in IE, Firefox, and Safari. If you didn't copy and paste the
code you posted here from your own page then go back and make sure your
page code looks exactly as you wrote it here with each attribute
surrounded by quotes and no typos. Otherwise, I don't know what else to
tell you.

 

[Rack Jite]

Your code looks fine and works for me every which way I try it both live
and locally in IE, Firefox, and Safari. If you didn't copy and paste the
code you posted here from your own page then go back and make sure your
page code looks exactly as you wrote it here with each attribute
surrounded by quotes and no typos. Otherwise, I don't know what else to
tell you.

Here is the paste
<embed src="imagine.mid" volume="40%" hidden="true"
align="baseline" border="0" width="20" height="15"
autostart="true" autoplay="true">

And everything works in IE and FF but the volume.
Does it go in the HEAD or the BODY or does it matter?
Does it matter where the volume= is in the string?