Font color icon in custom toolbar does no work right

[Hans L]

When I open Word 2000 (Win XP Home), the combobox for the font color
icon in any toolbar cannot be opened. The icon itself works, but I can
not change its color.

If I customize and remove and replace the icon, the combobox can be
opened again for the remainder of the session. After I go to Format --
Forn and change the font color, the font color icon combobox can again
be opened for the rest of the session.

When I close and open Word, the combobox cannot be opened again.

Strange problem, I believe, but perhaps someone has experienced (and
solved) it. Grateful for tips.

Hans L

 

[TF]

Hans

Is this just an isolated problem? For example, can you make other changes to
a toolbar, close Word, reopen and the toolbar changes are intact?



: When I open Word 2000 (Win XP Home), the combobox for the font color
: icon in any toolbar cannot be opened. The icon itself works, but I can
: not change its color.
:
: If I customize and remove and replace the icon, the combobox can be
: opened again for the remainder of the session. After I go to Format --
: Forn and change the font color, the font color icon combobox can again
: be opened for the rest of the session.
:
: When I close and open Word, the combobox cannot be opened again.
:
: Strange problem, I believe, but perhaps someone has experienced (and
: solved) it. Grateful for tips.
:
: Hans L
:

 

[Hans L]

Hello TF:

Yes, I can do other changes and they stick. And the problem is recent.
Have not had such a problem ever before. I deleted Normal.dot, and
when it came back, same problem.

Regards,

Hans L

 

[TF]

Hans

A wild guess here: try deleting and reinstalling the printer driver.

Terry


: Hello TF:
:
: Yes, I can do other changes and they stick. And the problem is recent.
: Have not had such a problem ever before. I deleted Normal.dot, and
: when it came back, same problem.
:
: Regards,
:
: Hans L
:
: TF wrote:
: > Hans
: >
: > Is this just an isolated problem? For example, can you make other
changes to
: > a toolbar, close Word, reopen and the toolbar changes are intact?
: >

 

[Hans L]

Hello Terry:

Sorry for late response, but I had to replace my keyboard and do a few
other maintenance things.

Unfortunately, the printer driver thnig did not solve the problem. Is
there any way to repair Word? I would like to try that first, and
then, I will reinstall.

Hans L

 

[Klaus Linke]

Hi Hans,

Perhaps this may help you:
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissngMenusEtc.htm

Regards,
Klaus

 

[Hans L]

Klaus, thanks. I tried it, and don't know what might have happened,
but it now seems as if the Font color button works in the normal
Formatting toolbar, but not in custom toolbars. I created a new,
custom toolbar, and put the FOnt Color button in it, and it worked (as
usual) while I still had Word open, but when I closed Word and reopened
it, the button did again not work.

Any further ideas (I hope ?

Hans L

 

[TF]

Hans

Where have you saved your custom Toolbar? Is it in normal.dot or have you
saved it to a template reserved for custom toolbar?

Terry

: Klaus, thanks. I tried it, and don't know what might have happened,
: but it now seems as if the Font color button works in the normal
: Formatting toolbar, but not in custom toolbars. I created a new,
: custom toolbar, and put the FOnt Color button in it, and it worked (as
: usual) while I still had Word open, but when I closed Word and reopened
: it, the button did again not work.
:
: Any further ideas (I hope ?
:
: Hans L
:
: Klaus Linke wrote:
:
: > Hi Hans,
: >
: > Perhaps this may help you:
: > http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissngMenusEtc.htm
: >
: > Regards,
: > Klaus
: >
: >
: >
: > > Hello Terry:
: > >
: > > Sorry for late response, but I had to replace my keyboard and do a
: > > few other maintenance things.
: > >
: > > Unfortunately, the printer driver thnig did not solve the problem.
: > > Is there any way to repair Word? I would like to try that first,
: > > and then, I will reinstall.
: > >
: > > Hans L
: > >
: > >
: > > TF wrote:
: > >
: > > > Hans
: > > >
: > > > A wild guess here: try deleting and reinstalling the printer
: > > > driver.
: > > >
: > > > Terry
: > > >
: > > >
: > > > : > > > : Hello TF:
: > > > :
: > > > : Yes, I can do other changes and they stick. And the problem is
: > > > recent. : Have not had such a problem ever before. I deleted
: > > > Normal.dot, and : when it came back, same problem.
: > > > :
: > > > : Regards,
: > > > :
: > > > : Hans L
: > > > :
: > > > : TF wrote:
: > > > : > Hans
: > > > : >
: > > > : > Is this just an isolated problem? For example, can you make
: > > > other changes to
: > > > : > a toolbar, close Word, reopen and the toolbar changes are
: > > > intact? : >
: > >
:

 

[Hans L]

Hans

Where have you saved your custom Toolbar? Is it in normal.dot or have
you saved it to a template reserved for custom toolbar?

Terry

: Klaus, thanks. I tried it, and don't know what might have happened,
: but it now seems as if the Font color button works in the normal
: Formatting toolbar, but not in custom toolbars. I created a new,
: custom toolbar, and put the FOnt Color button in it, and it worked
(as : usual) while I still had Word open, but when I closed Word and
reopened : it, the button did again not work.
:
: Any further ideas (I hope ?
:
: Hans L
:
: Klaus Linke wrote:
:
: > Hi Hans,
: >
: > Perhaps this may help you:
: > http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissngMenusEtc.htm
: >
: > Regards,
: > Klaus
: >
: >
: >
: > > Hello Terry:
: > >
: > > Sorry for late response, but I had to replace my keyboard and
do a : > > few other maintenance things.
: > >
: > > Unfortunately, the printer driver thnig did not solve the
problem. : > > Is there any way to repair Word? I would like to try
that first, : > > and then, I will reinstall.
: > >
: > > Hans L
: > >
: > >
: > > TF wrote:
: > >
: > > > Hans
: > > >
: > > > A wild guess here: try deleting and reinstalling the printer
: > > > driver.
: > > >
: > > > Terry
: > > >
: > > >
: > > > : > > > : Hello TF:
: > > > :
: > > > : Yes, I can do other changes and they stick. And the
problem is : > > > recent. : Have not had such a problem ever
before. I deleted : > > > Normal.dot, and : when it came back, same
problem. : > > > :
: > > > : Regards,
: > > > :
: > > > : Hans L
: > > > :
: > > > : TF wrote:
: > > > : > Hans
: > > > : >
: > > > : > Is this just an isolated problem? For example, can you
make : > > > other changes to
: > > > : > a toolbar, close Word, reopen and the toolbar changes are
: > > > intact? : >
: > >
:

Sorry I am late in answering, Terry -- work got in the way.

I must tell you that I am thoroughly screwed reagarding toolbars. I
thought I had learned enough about styles and all the other stuff to
have it down pat, but depending on what file I open, I have anything
from double custom toolbars (3 x 2 = 6) to no toolbar at all. I think
I need to start from scratch.

What I want is a template that works as my custom basic template, so
that I can delete Normal.dot at any time when I believe it is corrupt
without losing everything I have created in my basic template.

Should I create the custom toolbars (3 in my case) in Normal.dot, and
then copy them over to HansLBasic.dot, and then use this custom
template to create all other custom template I want/need?

Regards,

Hans L

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If you create them in Normal.dot and then copy (rather than move) them to
another global or document template, you'll likely have them doubled when
those templates are loaded. If you want them available all the time, create
them directly in a global template; if you want them available to specific
documents, create them in the document template.

 

[TF]

Hans

To add to Suzanne's reply, what you do depends on whether the custom toolbar
is just for you or for everyone to use. As Suzanne suggests, create a
template and call it Toolbar.dot (or something similar). Create your custom
toolbar (or if you still have it, use the Organiser to move it from
normal.dot to the custom template). Use Organiser to delete any other copies
of your toolbar that are in any other templates too.

If it is just for you to use, move the Toolbar.dot to your local Startup
folder - usually Program Files, Microsoft Office, Office 11, Startup. If you
look under Tools, Options, File Locations, it should show your local startup
location. Now when you load Word, the toolbar will always be available.

If this is to be shared by all users, then you need to create a Startup
folder on the server: users (including yourself) need to change the target
under Tools, Options, File Locations so that startup is pointing to the new
server Startup folder.

This is also the best way to store and hold global macros and AutoText.
Create a template for AutoText and another for Macros and move all the
Macros and AutoText to the new templates. By putting the templates in the
Startup folder, they are available as global tools.

This slims down normal.dot and probably ends normal.dot corruption problems.
It is also easy to backup you toolbars, AutoText and Macros because they are
separately stored.

Terry

: TF wrote:
:
: > Hans
: >
: > Where have you saved your custom Toolbar? Is it in normal.dot or have
: > you saved it to a template reserved for custom toolbar?
: >
: > Terry
: >
: > : > : Klaus, thanks. I tried it, and don't know what might have happened,
: > : but it now seems as if the Font color button works in the normal
: > : Formatting toolbar, but not in custom toolbars. I created a new,
: > : custom toolbar, and put the FOnt Color button in it, and it worked
: > (as : usual) while I still had Word open, but when I closed Word and
: > reopened : it, the button did again not work.
: > :
: > : Any further ideas (I hope ?
: > :
: > : Hans L
: > :
: > : Klaus Linke wrote:
: > :
: > : > Hi Hans,
: > : >
: > : > Perhaps this may help you:
: > : > http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissngMenusEtc.htm
: > : >
: > : > Regards,
: > : > Klaus
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > > Hello Terry:
: > : > >
: > : > > Sorry for late response, but I had to replace my keyboard and
: > do a : > > few other maintenance things.
: > : > >
: > : > > Unfortunately, the printer driver thnig did not solve the
: > problem. : > > Is there any way to repair Word? I would like to try
: > that first, : > > and then, I will reinstall.
: > : > >
: > : > > Hans L
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > > TF wrote:
: > : > >
: > : > > > Hans
: > : > > >
: > : > > > A wild guess here: try deleting and reinstalling the printer
: > : > > > driver.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > Terry
: > : > > >
: > : > > >
: > : > > > : > : > > > : Hello TF:
: > : > > > :
: > : > > > : Yes, I can do other changes and they stick. And the
: > problem is : > > > recent. : Have not had such a problem ever
: > before. I deleted : > > > Normal.dot, and : when it came back, same
: > problem. : > > > :
: > : > > > : Regards,
: > : > > > :
: > : > > > : Hans L
: > : > > > :
: > : > > > : TF wrote:
: > : > > > : > Hans
: > : > > > : >
: > : > > > : > Is this just an isolated problem? For example, can you
: > make : > > > other changes to
: > : > > > : > a toolbar, close Word, reopen and the toolbar changes are
: > : > > > intact? : >
: > : > >
: > :
:
: Sorry I am late in answering, Terry -- work got in the way.
:
: I must tell you that I am thoroughly screwed reagarding toolbars. I
: thought I had learned enough about styles and all the other stuff to
: have it down pat, but depending on what file I open, I have anything
: from double custom toolbars (3 x 2 = 6) to no toolbar at all. I think
: I need to start from scratch.
:
: What I want is a template that works as my custom basic template, so
: that I can delete Normal.dot at any time when I believe it is corrupt
: without losing everything I have created in my basic template.
:
: Should I create the custom toolbars (3 in my case) in Normal.dot, and
: then copy them over to HansLBasic.dot, and then use this custom
: template to create all other custom template I want/need?
:
: Regards,
:
: Hans L

 

[Hans L]

Hans

To add to Suzanne's reply, what you do depends on whether the custom
toolbar is just for you or for everyone to use. As Suzanne suggests,
create a template and call it Toolbar.dot (or something similar).
Create your custom toolbar (or if you still have it, use the
Organiser to move it from normal.dot to the custom template). Use
Organiser to delete any other copies of your toolbar that are in any
other templates too.

If it is just for you to use, move the Toolbar.dot to your local
Startup folder - usually Program Files, Microsoft Office, Office 11,
Startup. If you look under Tools, Options, File Locations, it should
show your local startup location. Now when you load Word, the toolbar
will always be available.

If this is to be shared by all users, then you need to create a
Startup folder on the server: users (including yourself) need to
change the target under Tools, Options, File Locations so that
startup is pointing to the new server Startup folder.

This is also the best way to store and hold global macros and
AutoText. Create a template for AutoText and another for Macros and
move all the Macros and AutoText to the new templates. By putting the
templates in the Startup folder, they are available as global tools.

This slims down normal.dot and probably ends normal.dot corruption
problems. It is also easy to backup you toolbars, AutoText and
Macros because they are separately stored.

Terry

Thank you, Suzanne and Terry.

I have created Toolbar.dot, and added a small custom toolbar. I out a
shortcut in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\Startup (I use
Office 2000 and Windows XP Home). I deleted all my previous custom
toolbars in all templates, including Normal.dot. And I unchecked all
default toolbars in all templates (all those that cannot be deleted).
I kept Menu checked in Normal (not an issue here, I am sure, but I
wanted to mention it nevertheless

A few comments and questions:

- I thought that the default toolbars were going to interere, but that
seems not to be the case. I guess (I will check) that if I delele
Normal.dot, the default toolbars Standard and Formatting will again be
checked when Noraml.dot is recreated. But that is of course no problem
-- easy enough to uncheck them the few times a deletion of Normal.dot
may be necessary (and you said it may be necessary much more seldom
with the new setup).

- I thought that old files would come up with whatever toolbars they
were created with, but that also seems not to be the case. What a
relief.

- I was advised once before (not by an MVP) to place a default
template in the Startup folder. However, the folder recommended then
was C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application
Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. I could never get that setup to work.
Could you spend a few words on the difference between placing the
template in either place? Thanks!

- I just thought about something: do I place the template itself or a
shortcut to the template in C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office\Startup? Right now, I have a shortcut there, but ...?


I will now expand the toolbar template and then create the global macro
and AutoText templates for placement in the startup folder. I am not
bs-ing when I say that this is very exiting. I have been on so many
wild-goose chases and run-arounds regarding these things that I am now
exultant, finally seeing the end of the tunnel in my quest for taming
this part of MS Word (and putting it to rest!).

Regards,

Hans L

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I would guess that the Startup folder where you need to save the toolbar is
the one set as your Startup folder in Tools | Options | File Locations.

 

[TF]

Just place your 'global templates' into the startup folder rather than
shortcuts: although shortcuts will work, placing the templates in the folder
will keep everything neat and tidy!

If you need to edit a global template, you cannot do it whilst the template
is 'loaded'. So to edit one of these templates, go to Tools, Templates and
Add-ins and uncheck the check box against the template you want to edit.
Then use File, Open and open the template itself: make any changes and save
the template. Close it, close Word and then restart Word. The template will
reload itself when you restart.

Terry


: TF wrote:
:
: > Hans
: >
: > To add to Suzanne's reply, what you do depends on whether the custom
: > toolbar is just for you or for everyone to use. As Suzanne suggests,
: > create a template and call it Toolbar.dot (or something similar).
: > Create your custom toolbar (or if you still have it, use the
: > Organiser to move it from normal.dot to the custom template). Use
: > Organiser to delete any other copies of your toolbar that are in any
: > other templates too.
: >
: > If it is just for you to use, move the Toolbar.dot to your local
: > Startup folder - usually Program Files, Microsoft Office, Office 11,
: > Startup. If you look under Tools, Options, File Locations, it should
: > show your local startup location. Now when you load Word, the toolbar
: > will always be available.
: >
: > If this is to be shared by all users, then you need to create a
: > Startup folder on the server: users (including yourself) need to
: > change the target under Tools, Options, File Locations so that
: > startup is pointing to the new server Startup folder.
: >
: > This is also the best way to store and hold global macros and
: > AutoText. Create a template for AutoText and another for Macros and
: > move all the Macros and AutoText to the new templates. By putting the
: > templates in the Startup folder, they are available as global tools.
: >
: > This slims down normal.dot and probably ends normal.dot corruption
: > problems. It is also easy to backup you toolbars, AutoText and
: > Macros because they are separately stored.
: >
: > Terry
:
: Thank you, Suzanne and Terry.
:
: I have created Toolbar.dot, and added a small custom toolbar. I out a
: shortcut in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\Startup (I use
: Office 2000 and Windows XP Home). I deleted all my previous custom
: toolbars in all templates, including Normal.dot. And I unchecked all
: default toolbars in all templates (all those that cannot be deleted).
: I kept Menu checked in Normal (not an issue here, I am sure, but I
: wanted to mention it nevertheless
:
: A few comments and questions:
:
: - I thought that the default toolbars were going to interere, but that
: seems not to be the case. I guess (I will check) that if I delele
: Normal.dot, the default toolbars Standard and Formatting will again be
: checked when Noraml.dot is recreated. But that is of course no problem
: -- easy enough to uncheck them the few times a deletion of Normal.dot
: may be necessary (and you said it may be necessary much more seldom
: with the new setup).
:
: - I thought that old files would come up with whatever toolbars they
: were created with, but that also seems not to be the case. What a
: relief.
:
: - I was advised once before (not by an MVP) to place a default
: template in the Startup folder. However, the folder recommended then
: was C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application
: Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. I could never get that setup to work.
: Could you spend a few words on the difference between placing the
: template in either place? Thanks!
:
: - I just thought about something: do I place the template itself or a
: shortcut to the template in C:\Program Files\Microsoft
: Office\Office\Startup? Right now, I have a shortcut there, but ...?
:
:
: I will now expand the toolbar template and then create the global macro
: and AutoText templates for placement in the startup folder. I am not
: bs-ing when I say that this is very exiting. I have been on so many
: wild-goose chases and run-arounds regarding these things that I am now
: exultant, finally seeing the end of the tunnel in my quest for taming
: this part of MS Word (and putting it to rest!).
:
: Regards,
:
: Hans L
:

 

[Hans L]

I would guess that the Startup folder where you need to save the
toolbar is the one set as your Startup folder in Tools | Options |
File Locations.

Suzanne and Terry:

I have a number of templates in the Documents & settings folder, but
I'll keep the Toolbar.dot template in the Program Files folder (because
it works!).

I have now made the Macro template. One to go.

The "funny" thing is tht my Font color button drop down menu *still*
does not wor. Seems it has a problem in custom toolbars. If you have
any idea how to repair Word in order to possibly replace the guilty
file (one file must be corrupt), kindly let me know.

Again, thank you both.

Hans L

 

[Hans L]

When I open Word 2000 (Win XP Home), the combobox for the font color
icon in any toolbar cannot be opened. The icon itself works, but I
can not change its color.

If I customize and remove and replace the icon, the combobox can be
opened again for the remainder of the session. After I go to Format
-- Forn and change the font color, the font color icon combobox can
again be opened for the rest of the session.

When I close and open Word, the combobox cannot be opened again.

Strange problem, I believe, but perhaps someone has experienced (and
solved) it. Grateful for tips.

Hans L

I want to respond to my own messages about the original issue with the
font color button combo box not dropping down. I solved this problem
by deleting the faulty button, and dragging the corresponding button
from the default Formatting toolbar.

I still cannot get the button to work if I drag it from Customize
window/Commands/Format to a custom toolbar. Wonder if that is a bug?

Hans L