footnotes appearing on different pages

[steve smith]

Hi
Often I have a problem of having footnotes appearing on
different pages to the text that points to them. Most
often, a footnote will appear on the following page,
especially in a long document. I have tried deleting
manual page breaks, but the problem continues.
Any advice?
Steve

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

See my reply to your duplicate post elsewhere. Please do not multi-post.

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[Luisa Fortunata]

When you post these non-replies, would you mind making a reference to
where the other post is so that those of us are interested can go find
it without guessing. There are a lot of other newsgroups and it could
take quite awhile to find the answer to the question when we just have
to take a shot in the dark.

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP - DELETE UPPERCASE CHARACT]

Quite frankly Luisa, when responding to posts in about 25 newsgroups, one
sometimes does not remember in which newsgroup it was that the original
question was answered. The answering of posts in these newsgroups is a
completely voluntary exercise and it is sometimes quite inconvenient to go
and search through one's sent items folder for the response that was posted
to the identical question.

If you want to try and find the answer to a particular question, search on
Google at:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Microsoft.public.word&btnG=Google+Search

Searching on the subject of this thread brings up 28 hits, one of which is
this thread itself.

Please post any further questions or followup to the newsgroups for the
benefit of others who may be interested. Unsolicited questions forwarded
directly to me will only be answered on a paid consulting basis.

Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

This illustrates exactly why we ask that people not multi-post. If they
would instead cross-post (by putting the names of two or more NGs in the
header of a single post), then everyone who saw the question in any of the
NGs (including the original poster) would see all the replies posted in any
of them. Not only does multi-posting make it harder for everyone to find the
answers, it also means that many people waste time providing answers to
questions that have already been adequately dealt with elsewhere. It is not
at all uncommon to see a complete thread in one NG (where an answer has been
posted and the OP has acknowledged that the answer solved the problem) while
the duplicate question in another NG continues to attract answers (some
correct, some wild guesses) for weeks because the OP has long since gone
away satisfied.

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Words into Type
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[Luisa Fortunata]

That doesn't change the fact that you're not answering the question
here. If you're not going to answer the question, what's the point of
posting anything except to "scold" someone for doing something they
shouldn't have done. That's the only purpose your "question answered
elsewhere" posts serve. If you're going to make the effort to post a
message that the answer was posted elsewhere, why not make it a useful
effort and refer anyone else to where that elsewhere is? Instead
you've simply posted nothing useful and now, I or anyone else reading
this group and not that group, can either wonder what the answer might
have been or we can ask the question again in our own thread and,
since those who know have already answered, we will probably not get
the courtesy of a reply or be instructed to "do a search."

Now, five posts later and still no answer.

 

[Luisa Fortunata]

I read this group for answers. I am not interested in doing a search
on Google. If someone can't remember where they posted an answer, why
are they wasting space in some other group claiming a question was
answered elsewhere? If they want to be helpful they will refer to
where it was answered for the benefit of everybody reading who might
be interested (which, benefit you reference in every post you make).
I suspect the purpose though is not to be helpful but to chastise.

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

The purpose of posting is to warn other potential answerers that the
question has already been answered, so they don't waste time duplicating
others' efforts.

FWIW, the answer was: "See
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Formatting/FootnoteOnDiffPage.htm," which is
the second hit you get if you Google for "Word footnotes on same page" and
the first hit if you Google for "Word footnotes on different page."

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
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all may benefit.

 

[Graham Mayor]

If you had put the effort into Google groups that you had into whinging then
you would have found the answer in a fraction of the time it took you to
complain. By entering the subject of the message in the search, you would
have found that the answer was in the longdocs group.

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[Luisa Fortunata]

Whinging? What's that?

I know how to find the answer. But I'm not interested in going to
Google. I'm sure others aren't interested either. If I wanted to
Google for it, I wouldn't bother coming here where non-answers seem to
be the norm for some people who think they're being helpful (and
they're not). They are simply wasting space and time. If someone
makes the effort to post a response that the answer can be found
elsewhere, they can just as easily include a pointer to where
"elsewhere" happens to be. The person who asked the original question
(generally, not specifically in this thread) is probably not the only
one who is having the problem. These are public forums and mistakes
will be made. Simply because somebody, who may not know better,
commits a posting faux pas does not make it otherwise or give anybody
the right to commit some further abuse. And these non-replies are
just as abusive as cross posting. If someone who has answered
"elsewhere" wants to chide the poster for breaking some rule, then let
them do it privately. Someone mentioned that they are long gone
anyway once they've gotten their answer, so what's the point of making
these public replies that it was answered somewhere else (without any
indication as to where that might be)?

 

[Luisa Fortunata]

If someone else wants to answer, what's it to you?

Notwithstanding whatever warning you feel compelled to give, why not
simply include a pointer to where that answer might be located? Does
it really take that much extra effort?

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

It does require extra effort even if I'm the one who posted the reply; if it
was posted by someone else, it would require a *lot* of extra effort. And
until you have put in as much time answering questions as I have and have
experienced the annoyance of writing several paragraphs of detailed
explanation in answer to a question, only to find that someone else has
answered a duplicate question in another NG, then you won't understand.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

No one is complaining about cross-posting. Cross-posting is what we are
encouraging, at least as an alternative to duplicate posting.

You say you are not interested in going to Google. That suggests to me that
you are not interested in making any effort to find an answer before you
post a question, so why should you expect us to make the effort to find the
answer for you?

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
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all may benefit.

 

[Luisa Fortunata]

I didn't post a question that required some kind of answer that I
could have (and probably would have) found elsewhere. Regardless of
any assertion to the contrary, your posts that say nothing but that
the answer can be found elsewhere are simply pointless. If you are
going to bother making such a post then you should have the courtesy
to direct anyone who might be reading to where that "elsewhere" might
be. Whether you call it "cross posting," "duplicate posting,"
"multi-posting," or whatever, it still boils down to the same thing
and that is that what you're doing is no better and just as offensive
as what you're "warning" others about.

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

No, indeed. Cross-posting, as I think I've explained elsewhere in this
thread, is entirely different from duplicate or multi-posting because users
can see the question and *all* the answers in any of the NGs to which the
post is cross-posted (and don't have to see them again in any of the
others).

In any case, nine times out of ten I *do* specify where the answer can be
found, which you would know if you read these NGs regularly. You just
happened to jump on an instance where I did not. And I subsequently did
provide the answer you were looking for, so I don't see what you have to
complain about.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
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all may benefit.

 

[Luisa Fortunata]

I do read these newsgroups regularly and I frequently see your
non-replies. As I said, I wasn't looking for an answer. I'm fairly
savvy as to software but I follow these (select) groups to keep up on
various items like updates and every once in awhile, I see something
that makes me think, "Oh yeah. That's happened to me. I wonder how
to avoid it in the future." It's certainly not pressing enough for me
to go searching for the answer. If it was, I would have asked the
question. Seeing your "answer posted elsewhere" messages is just
annoying and a waste of time and space - mine, yours and everybody
else's. It doesn't surprise me that you don't even recognize your
disregard for the many people who read this newsgroup. If you did
want to be helpful, you would, at the very least, include a pointer to
where you posted the answer to the question. Since you do it nine
times out of ten anyway, why not just do it every time?

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I will take your word for it that you have been lurking in these NGs, but
you don't seem to have contributed anything. According to Google Groups,
this thread is the only one in the microsoft.public.word.* hierarchy in
which you've posted. In contrast, I've posted 18,553 messages in these NGs
since January 1, 2003 (Google lists 66,600 all told). Obviously, not every
one of them has met your standards of helpfulness, but I can't find that you
have posted a single message that is helpful to other users.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

 

[Graham Mayor]

You are wasting your energy and your patience feeding the troll!

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[Luisa Fortunata]

So what?

 

[Luisa Fortunata]

Quit your whinging!