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Eric
I can't find the Format Painter in the ON SP1 beta. Is it hidden, or
scheduled for an upcoming release?
scheduled for an upcoming release?
B
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote
Doesn't exist in SP1. Can't guarantee it will be in a future release,
but it's a good idea.
E
Erik Sojka
That feature does not exist in SP1.
P
Peter Engrav \(MS, OneNote Dev Manager\)
Random exceedingly unscientific poll ...
The feature to "make this look like that" is clearly an important one that
we'll work on supporting in a future release.
Most of the Office apps (not OneNote) have the Format Painter icon on their
toolbar to do this. Word and Excel, however, each have another (earlier)
version of the feature. Excel has in its "Paste Special" dialog an option
to paste formatting. And Word has commands (Control+Shift+C and
Control+Shift+V) called "Copy Formatting" and "Paste Formatting".
Personally (with my own user hat on) I've always found the Word command the
most useful - it takes full advantage of all existing techniques (mouse,
keyboard, search, etc.) for making selections to which you're going to
apply stuff. The format painter's reliance on the mouse has always felt a
little weird to me (why should copying formatting from one place to another
use a "paint" metaphor when applying formatting in the first place
(including big chunks of formatting like styles) uses a "select + apply"
metaphor? And I find myself often either painting too much stuff or losing
the "formatting load" before I wanted to.
BUT ... I'm a grumpy unimaginative developer type. Well, somewhat.
So the question is, do y'all really want the Format Painter (as it exists in
the other apps, consistency points) or do you want OneNote to enable the
"this should look like that" feature in some carefully designed OneNote-ish
way?
And am I all by myself in not liking the Format Painter very much?
- Peter Engrav (MS, OneNote Dev Manager)
The feature to "make this look like that" is clearly an important one that
we'll work on supporting in a future release.
Most of the Office apps (not OneNote) have the Format Painter icon on their
toolbar to do this. Word and Excel, however, each have another (earlier)
version of the feature. Excel has in its "Paste Special" dialog an option
to paste formatting. And Word has commands (Control+Shift+C and
Control+Shift+V) called "Copy Formatting" and "Paste Formatting".
Personally (with my own user hat on) I've always found the Word command the
most useful - it takes full advantage of all existing techniques (mouse,
keyboard, search, etc.) for making selections to which you're going to
apply stuff. The format painter's reliance on the mouse has always felt a
little weird to me (why should copying formatting from one place to another
use a "paint" metaphor when applying formatting in the first place
(including big chunks of formatting like styles) uses a "select + apply"
metaphor? And I find myself often either painting too much stuff or losing
the "formatting load" before I wanted to.
BUT ... I'm a grumpy unimaginative developer type. Well, somewhat.
So the question is, do y'all really want the Format Painter (as it exists in
the other apps, consistency points) or do you want OneNote to enable the
"this should look like that" feature in some carefully designed OneNote-ish
way?
And am I all by myself in not liking the Format Painter very much?
- Peter Engrav (MS, OneNote Dev Manager)
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Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote
I'm fine with Format Painter but ultimately I'd just like the functionality
and if it comes in some "better mousetrap" OneNote-way that's great too.
Format Painter is not necessarily the best way to get that result and
I'm all about the results.
O.K., I'm all about the results and pizza. Maybe it's pizza then results,
but results are right up there.
K
Kathy J
Personally, I like the format painter, but that is because I think in terms
of "I want to take the formatting from here and apply it to the next few
things I click." (I use a sticky paintbrush more than a single use
paintbrush.)
On the other hand, if you can give me a way to do the painting in a way that
works better, I'm more than willing to try it. What I want more is the
ability to set up defaults for types of note holders like I can with
AutoShapes. (When I create a new notes container, I want it to look like
this, with this size, this font, this color (if applicable), etc.)
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if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived
of "I want to take the formatting from here and apply it to the next few
things I click." (I use a sticky paintbrush more than a single use
paintbrush.)
On the other hand, if you can give me a way to do the painting in a way that
works better, I'm more than willing to try it. What I want more is the
ability to set up defaults for types of note holders like I can with
AutoShapes. (When I create a new notes container, I want it to look like
this, with this size, this font, this color (if applicable), etc.)
--
Kathryn Jacobs, Microsoft MVP PowerPoint and OneNote
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I believe life is meant to be lived. But:
if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived
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Edward Davis
At first I didn't like the Painter. But I have to admit I use it quite a
bit and found myself missing it in ON. My vote is to put it in. Good or
bad I would rather see only one method to accomplish the task between Office
Apps.
bit and found myself missing it in ON. My vote is to put it in. Good or
bad I would rather see only one method to accomplish the task between Office
Apps.
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Eric
I find myself pasting in text from other apps, usually as a todo item betwen
other todo items. When I paste an item from Outlook mail, it carries that
font, which doesn't match the other text items in my note.
In ON I always find myself automatically going for the format painter icon.
I rarely use Excel's Paste Special or Word's Paste Formatting, even though I
know that they're there. I use the format painter icon in those apps too.
Of course this would all be moot if OneNote pasted the item with the same
font that is above and below the text I'm inserting. Maybe that would be a
uniquely OneNotey way of handling it. If this were implemented I'm sure I'd
also want a way to disable this behavior too.
other todo items. When I paste an item from Outlook mail, it carries that
font, which doesn't match the other text items in my note.
In ON I always find myself automatically going for the format painter icon.
I rarely use Excel's Paste Special or Word's Paste Formatting, even though I
know that they're there. I use the format painter icon in those apps too.
Of course this would all be moot if OneNote pasted the item with the same
font that is above and below the text I'm inserting. Maybe that would be a
uniquely OneNotey way of handling it. If this were implemented I'm sure I'd
also want a way to disable this behavior too.
D
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
click on the paste icon after you paste... text only removes urls and all
formatting, match destination leaves the urls but keeps font formatting
(size, color, and bold etc) - both match destination fonts.
--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)
formatting, match destination leaves the urls but keeps font formatting
(size, color, and bold etc) - both match destination fonts.
--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)
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Eric
Ah, that's great - thanks!
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Eric
I've noticed that this doesn't always preserve white-space carriage-returns
that were in the source text. For example, copy the text from this web page
and paste it into a OneNote page. It's much tougher to read without the
blank carriage-returns between paragraphs.
http://www.sba.muohio.edu/snavely/415/thunder.htm
Am I doing something wrong?
that were in the source text. For example, copy the text from this web page
and paste it into a OneNote page. It's much tougher to read without the
blank carriage-returns between paragraphs.
http://www.sba.muohio.edu/snavely/415/thunder.htm
Am I doing something wrong?
O
Owen
Eric – I'm not sure why the extra carriage returns are getting lost in that case (looking into it), but if you click on the little floating icon that appears at the bottom of the pasted text and select "keep text only", the carriage returns will come back.
Owen (OneNote team)
nntp://news.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.onenote/<u#[email protected]>
I've noticed that this doesn't always preserve white-space carriage-returns
that were in the source text. For example, copy the text from this web page
and paste it into a OneNote page. It's much tougher to read without the
blank carriage-returns between paragraphs.
http://www.sba.muohio.edu/snavely/415/thunder.htm
Am I doing something wrong?
[microsoft.public.onenote]
Owen (OneNote team)
nntp://news.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.onenote/<u#[email protected]>
I've noticed that this doesn't always preserve white-space carriage-returns
that were in the source text. For example, copy the text from this web page
and paste it into a OneNote page. It's much tougher to read without the
blank carriage-returns between paragraphs.
http://www.sba.muohio.edu/snavely/415/thunder.htm
Am I doing something wrong?
[microsoft.public.onenote]
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Eric
Cool, thanks for the tip!
nntp://news.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.onenote/ said:
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Elena
Peter Engrav (MS said:
I vote for Format Painter, which like others here, I find myself hunting for
it on the toolbar. Sometimes when my brain is overloaded, I spend time
looking for it in the Customize Toolbar section before realizing it's not
around at all.
However, I'd also be happy with just any kind of procedure to do it.
Thanks for asking!
Elena