FP 2002 timing out when trying to publish web

[Manfred Richter]

My website www.manola4.com has grown over the years to just over 150 mb and
I believe around 2,000 files, mostly JPG's.
Recently, I started having problems with timeouts when publishing the
updates, to the point now where I can no longer update my site. I am being
hosted by midphase.com.
Their support staff tells me my web is too large for FP and I should switch
to Dreamweaver or FTP instead.
Obviously, I have everthing structured in FP and don't really want to switch
if I don't have to.
Can anyone confirm that I have reached the max for FP?

Regards,

Manfred

 

[David Berry]

When you have a site this large, especially if it's a lot of images, it's
time to start breaking it up. Break up the site into several sub webs (sub
sites). For example, convert your images folder to a sub web. Then when
you're working on your main web and go to publish those won't get published.

 

[Manfred Richter]

Does that mean I can no longer update the sub webs then? In other words, if
I check to include sub webs it will be too large again?

 

[Trevor L.]

My website www.manola4.com has grown over the years to just over 150
mb and I believe around 2,000 files, mostly JPG's.
Recently, I started having problems with timeouts when publishing the
updates, to the point now where I can no longer update my site. I am
being hosted by midphase.com.
Their support staff tells me my web is too large for FP and I should
switch to Dreamweaver or FTP instead.
Obviously, I have everthing structured in FP and don't really want to
switch if I don't have to.
Can anyone confirm that I have reached the max for FP?

Why would the use of FP make any difference? It is the host who determines
how much space you can have.

After all, a file is a file is a file. If it was created on FP and takes
10KB, then will it take more or less space if it were to be created in
another web editor ?

I suppose the answer to my rhetorical question is that it will take the same
space, but of course some web editors (or some actions in the same web
editor) can bloat the code.

What size is the website on your local copy ?
How much space did midphase.com allocate to you?

One point to look at may be the size of the JPG files. If you haven't
optimized them, they could be larger than they need to be.

--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
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[David Berry]

You can update the sub webs by opening them. They will open like individual
webs. You may want to try this locally first before you try it on your live
site.

 

[Trevor L.]

Does that mean I can no longer update the sub webs then? In other
words, if I check to include sub webs it will be too large again?

Sorry, I didn't read David's reply before I sent mine.

Another point to check is that you have set FP to only update altered files.

You can also mark the subwebs (or the images folder) as "Don't Publish".
Then when you add a new picture, update that file ONLY.

Another way is mark all *files* in the image folder as "Don't Publish"
(rather than the folder itself). Any new files will not be marked, so they
will be updated. After updating, go back and mark the new files as "Don't
Publish".

But I don't have a lot of experience in large websites so, David, please
correct me if I am barking up the wrong tree.
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
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[David Berry]

Marking files and folders as don't publish is always a good idea too.
Especially if you have a database in your web. As for the sub webs, you
don't mark them as do not publish. By default they won't publish unless you
check "Include subsites" from the Publishing tab.

Does that mean I can no longer update the sub webs then? In other
words, if I check to include sub webs it will be too large again?

Sorry, I didn't read David's reply before I sent mine.

Another point to check is that you have set FP to only update altered
files.

You can also mark the subwebs (or the images folder) as "Don't Publish".
Then when you add a new picture, update that file ONLY.

Another way is mark all *files* in the image folder as "Don't Publish"
(rather than the folder itself). Any new files will not be marked, so they
will be updated. After updating, go back and mark the new files as "Don't
Publish".

But I don't have a lot of experience in large websites so, David, please
correct me if I am barking up the wrong tree.
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[Manfred Richter]

I have the uploads set to only load what's different on the server versus my
local copy.
According to midphase, the reason it times out is because FP checks every
single file for changes during upload. I have about 2,000 individual files
totaling 157mb. I am entitled up to 500mb on their server. Their tech
support is saying that I wouldn't have a problem via FTP. I like the way I
can set up the web with FP on my client prior to the upload.
The individual JPG's are not too large. I never use more than 800x600
resolution for my pix.
What I really want to find out, should I ditch midphase and find another
provider, or do I need to do some serious reconfiguration on my web files?

Thanks,

Manfred

My website www.manola4.com has grown over the years to just over 150
mb and I believe around 2,000 files, mostly JPG's.
Recently, I started having problems with timeouts when publishing the
updates, to the point now where I can no longer update my site. I am
being hosted by midphase.com.
Their support staff tells me my web is too large for FP and I should
switch to Dreamweaver or FTP instead.
Obviously, I have everthing structured in FP and don't really want to
switch if I don't have to.
Can anyone confirm that I have reached the max for FP?

Why would the use of FP make any difference? It is the host who determines
how much space you can have.

After all, a file is a file is a file. If it was created on FP and takes
10KB, then will it take more or less space if it were to be created in
another web editor ?

I suppose the answer to my rhetorical question is that it will take the
same space, but of course some web editors (or some actions in the same
web editor) can bloat the code.

What size is the website on your local copy ?
How much space did midphase.com allocate to you?

One point to look at may be the size of the JPG files. If you haven't
optimized them, they could be larger than they need to be.

--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/