FP2000 Theme and CSS where is it?

B

brooksr

I applied a theme (blankstyle) and checked 'Apply using CSS'. The
buttons and colors from the theme seem to have been applied but other
elements, like the horizontal lines in the banner are not. And I do
not see a CSS file or code in my website. Here is the header after
applying the theme:

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<title></title>
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="blankstyle 1110, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="t, default">
</head>



1. Why is the CSS code missing?
2. I took an html class using Notepad and we created a style.css file
and then added links to it in the head section of each html file. Why
doesn't FP do this?
3. Why are the horizontal lines in the banner missing?

Brooks
 
R

Ronx

Use Preview in Browser, and view the source code in the browser.
When you look at the source in FrontPage code view, a lot of code that
FP puts in when the page is closed or saved is removed.
<hr> tags (horizontal rule) will not use the theme when the theme is
applied using CSS.
You will also notice that the code from the top shared border is not
being displayed in code view.
 
T

Trevor L.

Ronx said:
Use Preview in Browser, and view the source code in the browser.
When you look at the source in FrontPage code view, a lot of code that FP
puts in when the page is closed or saved is removed.
<hr> tags (horizontal rule) will not use the theme when the theme is
applied using CSS.
You will also notice that the code from the top shared border is not being
displayed in code view.
Click to expand...

So to expand on Ron's answer, I think that the following is correct. (Ron
can correct me if not)

FrontPage generates the extra code using these two statements:
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="blankstyle 1110, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="t, default">

The code itself is stored in other folders and then added to the main page
as seen in Preview in Browser.

Now I have to try to remember what the folders are
Is it _top for the top border ?
As for themes, I have never used them, so I don't know.

Anyway so long as folders with names beginning in _ are not deleted, it
shouldn't matter
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
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B

brooksr

Ron,

Excellent answer. I found it.

But the lines are in the banner. I see it when picking the theme.

Why doesn't it come through?

Brooks
 
B

brooksr

Trevor,

Why is it that MVPs don't use themes in FP? Is there a disadvantage
to them?

Brooks
 
T

Trevor L.

brooksr said:
Trevor,

Why is it that MVPs don't use themes in FP? Is there a disadvantage
to them?

Brooks
Click to expand...

It is probably because we prefer to write our own CSS.

In fact, I thought of saying that this is a better way to go. You can
control exactly what styles are applied, and you know where the CSS is
(either in the <head> or in a linked .css file )

You have to learn the CSS syntax, but here is a good guide
http://www.w3schools.com/
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
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R

Ronx

The lines are part of the Banner image - are you using a text banner or
a picture? Text will not display the lines.
You are also using a modified theme - FP2000 comes with a theme named
Blank, not with a theme named Blankstyle. Have the images been changed?
 
R

Ronx

The shared borders are in the folder named _borders, and are named
top.htm, left.htm, bottom.htm, and right.htm
Themes are stored in the _themes folder, an individual theme will be in
its own folder within the _themes folder. A website can have multiple
themes.

To see hidden folders in FrontPage use Tools->Web Settings - Advanced
tag, and tick the box "Show hidden folders and files". Note that the
_derived folder is permanently hidden in FrontPage. In FP2003 "Web
Settings" is "Site Settings".
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp



Ronx said:
Use Preview in Browser, and view the source code in the browser.
When you look at the source in FrontPage code view, a lot of code that FP
puts in when the page is closed or saved is removed.
<hr> tags (horizontal rule) will not use the theme when the theme is
applied using CSS.
You will also notice that the code from the top shared border is not being
displayed in code view.
Click to expand...

So to expand on Ron's answer, I think that the following is correct. (Ron
can correct me if not)

FrontPage generates the extra code using these two statements:
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="blankstyle 1110, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="t, default">

The code itself is stored in other folders and then added to the main page
as seen in Preview in Browser.

Now I have to try to remember what the folders are
Is it _top for the top border ?
As for themes, I have never used them, so I don't know.

Anyway so long as folders with names beginning in _ are not deleted, it
shouldn't matter
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
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Click to expand...
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Other than the fact they are outdated and limited?

They write nonconforming html or when applied as css they use bloated css style (most of which are valid on only on WSS sites)
See http://sbrenjoy.bizland.com/frontpage/themes/newthemes.html#Granular
(and the section above it on removing the WSS styles)

PS
The above site uses a theme only because it hasn't been updated in years

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
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| Why is it that MVPs don't use themes in FP? Is there a disadvantage
| to them?
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