fractions

C

cake

How do I turn 1/2 (or 1/4 or whatever) into a single character so it's
not hard to read? I thought it would be in autoformat but it's not. I
can get an approximation making the first into a superscript and the
second into a subscript, but it doesn't look right, and besides, is a
pain to do. Help!
 
E

Elliott Roper

How do I turn 1/2 (or 1/4 or whatever) into a single character so it's
not hard to read? I thought it would be in autoformat but it's not. I
can get an approximation making the first into a superscript and the
second into a subscript, but it doesn't look right, and besides, is a
pain to do. Help!

The technique differs between Word 2004 and earlier versions. Pray tell
which version you are on.
 
M

matt neuburg

How do I turn 1/2 (or 1/4 or whatever) into a single character so it's
not hard to read?

The easy way is to upgrade to Word 2004, which does this automatically.
m.
 
D

Daiya Mitchell

The technique differs between Word 2004 and earlier versions. Pray tell
which version you are on.
The technique also differs depending on the fraction. Word has a setting to
automatically change 1/2 and 1/4 into formatted fractions, but not 1/3 or
1/8 or anything else, though you can create your own for 1/3 and put them in
AutoCorrect or AutoText for re-use.

However, in Word 2004, I cannot find the setting, though I know I turned it
off in Word 2001. Anyone?

DM
 
C

Clive Huggan

I began to do this, then realized I had no way to represent what I
wanted....

Dear whoever,

There is a way of formatting fractions elegantly. The procedure requires
about ten minutes' work, once off, then after that a fully formatted
fraction is inserted instantly by AutoCorrect.

I originally devised these specifications because I wanted a typographically
elegant set of fractions without having to purchase special Mac fraction
fonts (which the other party wouldn't have anyway). Compatibility in all (as
far as I know) Mac versions of Word, ditto PC, is a useful side-effect.

My comments are based on Word 2001 and I now use them on 2004, but it's
fairly certain you'll find they apply to Word X.

These are a clip from a post I did 18 months ago, taken from notes on the
way I use Word titled "Bend Word to Your Will", whic are available as a free
download from the Word MVPs' website at
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/Bend/BendWord.htm

(I may have amended these particular notes since then but I don't think so.
If you do download the notes, do a Find command for "typographically
elegant".)


Here are the notes:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


These notes describe how to format fractions for running text that look like
the ones inserted by special "fraction fonts" -- that is, typographically
elegant fractions with a sloping fraction bar and appropriately sized and
positioned numerals. Not having to use "fraction fonts" is convenient if
you
don't have such fonts installed, and is especially useful if you send your
documents to people who don't have such fonts. They work on the Windows
platform too -- and look identical on Mac and Windows computers when the
"common to both platforms" standard Windows TrueType fonts (Times New
Roman,
Arial, and Courier New and Wingdings) are used.


To format a fraction from scratch and prepare it as an AutoCorrect entry, as
shown below, requires about ten minutes' work -- but only once off, because
from then on Word will automatically insert a fully formatted fraction via
AutoCorrect.


Notes: The fraction bar is Shift-Option-1.


1. FORMATTING THE CHARACTERS


a. For 7-point components suitable for 12-point Times text

[Note added 31 January: In Word 2004 one would need to do this in Times New
Roman, because TNR looks far better than Times in the new ATSUI display.]


After experimenting with several variations for 12 point Times I settled on
"At least 13 point" line spacing, all three characters in 7 point ("1" is
raised 3 points; fraction bar is raised 2 points; "2" is not raised).


To format this:


Type "1" followed by Shift-Option-1 (which is a fraction bar) and "2". Key
Shift-[left arrow] to select the "2". Key Command-d, click the "font" tab
and enter "7" in the "font size" field. Click "OK".


Left arrow to de-select the "2". Shift-[left arrow] to select the fraction
bar. Key Command-d, click the "font" tab and enter "7" in the "font size"
field. Click the "Character spacing" tab and enter "2 pt" (raised) against
"Position". Click "OK".


Repeat for the "1" character but raise it 3 points.


b. For 6-point components suitable for 11-point Times text


For 11 point Times the best appearance came from "At least 13 point" line
spacing; "1" in 6 point is raised 3 points; fraction bar in 7 point is
raised 1.5 points; "2" in 6 point is not raised.


To format this:


Type "1" followed by Shift-Option-1 (which is a fraction bar) and "2". Key
Shift-[left arrow] to select the "2". Key Command-d, click the "font" tab
and enter "6" in the "font size" field. Click "OK".


Left arrow to de-select the "2". Shift-[left arrow] to select the fraction
bar. Key Command-d, click the "font" tab and enter "7" in the "font size"
field. Click the "Character spacing" tab and enter "2 pt" (raised) against
"Position". Click "OK".


Repeat for the "1" character but enter "6" as the font size and raise 3
points.


2. SETTING UP THE AUTOCORRECT ENTRY


Select the three formatted characters (if you do not have "Smart cut and
paste" enabled (Edit menu [Word menu in Word 2004 and (?)X] --> Preferences
--> Edit tab), you may also want
to select a 12 or 11 point space after them).


Go to the Tools menu » AutoCorrect.


In the right-hand field, "1/2" will be present. Click the "Formatted Text"
button above the right-hand field.


Click in the left-hand ("Replace") field and type in the term you want
AutoCorrect to amend. I did not want to use "1/2", because it's likely that
I will want to type those characters in other contexts, such as two
alternative dates (1/2 March). And of course I couldn't use "half". I
therefore allocated the term "hhalf" ‹ with the "h" repeated.


Click the "Add" button, then the "OK" button.


Now I only have to type "hhalf" and the formatted fraction is inserted
immediately by AutoCorrect.


I don't use fractions often, so I opted to have only the one entry and to
manually alter the "1/2" to "3/4" and so on. If I were using fractions more
often I would prepare more examples by altering the formatted "half"
fraction directly and allocating an AutoCorrect term for the new fraction.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is at least 5 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================

* WAIT FOR CONSIDERED ADVICE: If you post a question, keep re-visiting the
newsgroup for several days after the first response comes in. Sometimes it
takes a few responses before the best or complete solution is proposed;
sometimes you'll be asked for further information so that a better answer
can be provided. Good tips about getting the best out of posting are at
http://www.word.mvps.org/FindHelp/Posting.htm (if you use Safari and it
gives you a blank page the first time, you may need to hit the circular
arrow icon -- "Reload the current page" -- a few times).

============================================================
 
C

Clive Huggan

I began to do this, then realized I had no way to represent what I
wanted....

Dear whoever,

There is a way of formatting fractions elegantly. The procedure requires
about ten minutes' work, once off, then after that a fully formatted
fraction is inserted instantly by AutoCorrect.

I originally devised these specifications because I wanted a typographically
elegant set of fractions without having to purchase special Mac fraction
fonts (which the other party wouldn't have anyway). Compatibility in all (as
far as I know) Mac versions of Word, ditto PC, is a useful side-effect.

My comments are based on Word 2001 and I now use them on 2004, but it's
fairly certain you'll find they apply to Word X.

These are a clip from a post I did 18 months ago, taken from notes on the
way I use Word titled "Bend Word to Your Will", whic are available as a free
download from the Word MVPs' website at
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/Bend/BendWord.htm

(I may have amended these particular notes since then but I don't think so.
If you do download the notes, do a Find command for "typographically
elegant".)


Here are the notes:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


These notes describe how to format fractions for running text that look like
the ones inserted by special "fraction fonts" -- that is, typographically
elegant fractions with a sloping fraction bar and appropriately sized and
positioned numerals. Not having to use "fraction fonts" is convenient if
you
don't have such fonts installed, and is especially useful if you send your
documents to people who don't have such fonts. They work on the Windows
platform too -- and look identical on Mac and Windows computers when the
"common to both platforms" standard Windows TrueType fonts (Times New
Roman,
Arial, and Courier New and Wingdings) are used.


To format a fraction from scratch and prepare it as an AutoCorrect entry, as
shown below, requires about ten minutes' work -- but only once off, because
from then on Word will automatically insert a fully formatted fraction via
AutoCorrect.


Notes: The fraction bar is Shift-Option-1.


1. FORMATTING THE CHARACTERS


a. For 7-point components suitable for 12-point Times text

[Note added 31 January: In Word 2004 one would need to do this in Times New
Roman, because TNR looks far better than Times in the new ATSUI display.]


After experimenting with several variations for 12 point Times I settled on
"At least 13 point" line spacing, all three characters in 7 point ("1" is
raised 3 points; fraction bar is raised 2 points; "2" is not raised).


To format this:


Type "1" followed by Shift-Option-1 (which is a fraction bar) and "2". Key
Shift-[left arrow] to select the "2". Key Command-d, click the "font" tab
and enter "7" in the "font size" field. Click "OK".


Left arrow to de-select the "2". Shift-[left arrow] to select the fraction
bar. Key Command-d, click the "font" tab and enter "7" in the "font size"
field. Click the "Character spacing" tab and enter "2 pt" (raised) against
"Position". Click "OK".


Repeat for the "1" character but raise it 3 points.


b. For 6-point components suitable for 11-point Times text


For 11 point Times the best appearance came from "At least 13 point" line
spacing; "1" in 6 point is raised 3 points; fraction bar in 7 point is
raised 1.5 points; "2" in 6 point is not raised.


To format this:


Type "1" followed by Shift-Option-1 (which is a fraction bar) and "2". Key
Shift-[left arrow] to select the "2". Key Command-d, click the "font" tab
and enter "6" in the "font size" field. Click "OK".


Left arrow to de-select the "2". Shift-[left arrow] to select the fraction
bar. Key Command-d, click the "font" tab and enter "7" in the "font size"
field. Click the "Character spacing" tab and enter "2 pt" (raised) against
"Position". Click "OK".


Repeat for the "1" character but enter "6" as the font size and raise 3
points.


2. SETTING UP THE AUTOCORRECT ENTRY


Select the three formatted characters (if you do not have "Smart cut and
paste" enabled (Edit menu [Word menu in Word 2004 and (?)X] --> Preferences
--> Edit tab), you may also want
to select a 12 or 11 point space after them).


Go to the Tools menu » AutoCorrect.


In the right-hand field, "1/2" will be present. Click the "Formatted Text"
button above the right-hand field.


Click in the left-hand ("Replace") field and type in the term you want
AutoCorrect to amend. I did not want to use "1/2", because it's likely that
I will want to type those characters in other contexts, such as two
alternative dates (1/2 March). And of course I couldn't use "half". I
therefore allocated the term "hhalf" ‹ with the "h" repeated.


Click the "Add" button, then the "OK" button.


Now I only have to type "hhalf" and the formatted fraction is inserted
immediately by AutoCorrect.


I don't use fractions often, so I opted to have only the one entry and to
manually alter the "1/2" to "3/4" and so on. If I were using fractions more
often I would prepare more examples by altering the formatted "half"
fraction directly and allocating an AutoCorrect term for the new fraction.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is at least 5 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================

* WAIT FOR CONSIDERED ADVICE: If you post a question, keep re-visiting the
newsgroup for several days after the first response comes in. Sometimes it
takes a few responses before the best or complete solution is proposed;
sometimes you'll be asked for further information so that a better answer
can be provided. Good tips about getting the best out of posting are at
http://www.word.mvps.org/FindHelp/Posting.htm (if you use Safari and it
gives you a blank page the first time, you may need to hit the circular
arrow icon -- "Reload the current page" -- a few times).

============================================================
Forgot to mention this:

The downloadable notes I mentioned in "Bend Word to Your Will" provide a
sample of a fraction already formatted in the manner described. To prepare
it as an AutoCorrect entry then takes only three minutes, assuming you don't
have to make adjustments because you are using a different font.

You can also insert less typographically elegant fractions — choose Help
menu -> Microsoft Word Help -> "Search" button -> type in "EQ field" and/or
"How do I insert an equation?"

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is at least 5 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================
 
E

Elliott Roper

I have Word X for Mac -- came with Office
OK. Just make sure you have Word v.X and not the currrent Word 2004.
2004 has unicode. That means there are actual characters for each of
the common fractions. In v.X there ain't.

In v.X there are two methods. One is to use the equation editor to
create an equation field which you then sneak into autocorrect. It is
probably better if you want lots of different fractions and don't mind
horizontal fraction bars.
The other method is to use super and subscripting with autocorrect.

Find it at this enormous url
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.word/bro
wse_frm/thread/92e38cfbce94332b/88c3d01d5f1a30d1?q=fraction+group:micros
oft.public.mac.office.word+author:huggan&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fas_q%3Dfracti
on%26safe%3Doff%26as_ugroup%3Dmicrosoft.public.mac.office.word%26as_uaut
hors%3Dhuggan%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D20%26hl%3Den%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+
Search&&d#88c3d01d5f1a30d1

or you could do what I just did to create that URL. Searched on Google
Advanced Group Search

http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search

with "fraction" in the "all the words"
"microsoft.public.mac.office.word" in "newsgroup" and Huggan in
"author"

To find the equation variant recipe, do the same search with my name
instead of Clive Huggan's

They are both a pain in the arse. I think Clive's looks better, and I
think mine is easier to change the fraction.

If you have money instead of brains, upgrade to Word 2004. ;-)
NOTE THE SMILEY!!

Google Groups Search is a very quick way to get answers to questions
like this and you don't have to put up with all the smart alec remarks.

Clive, you can probably guess, I posted this after a so-so bottle of
Graves. It would have lost a blind tasting against Rawson's Retreat.

cake, we still like to hear if this advice works, and if the cryptic
directions to google groups was sufficient.
 
C

Clive Huggan

Bugger! If I knew you were typing all that, I would have kept my big
fat gob shut.[/QUOTE]

Don't worry, Elliott, despite your years in Blighty I know you are still on
Australia's Eastern Standard Time. And I didn't key much: I copied my May
2003 post, made a couple of updating-type comments, and have made a note to
update an aspect of "Bend Word to Your Will" before the next version is
posted. Which is why queries such as that of "cake" are useful in getting
me to review Bend Word, to say nothing of your creative insights.

And as you know, it is even more useful when posters get back to us with
feedback.

Here, I struggle valiantly with the products of McLaren Vale, Coonawarra,
the Barossa and Langhorne Creek, having seriously over-ordered stocks of
1998!

Cheers,

Clive
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is at least 5 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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