French to English

L

landtis

Hi. I recently moved to France and purchased a copy of Office 2008 in France as I will not be returning to the US anytime soon. I do not however read French very well, therefore, I would like to change all the menus to English from French. How do you do this? The rest of the languages are English on the computer
 
T

thg

I think you need to get a different (English) version of Office,
because it still only comes in one language at a time.
 
M

MC

I have a French Canadian machine, because I want the accents on the
keyboard to be WYSIWYG

When you boot a Mac for the first time, it asks you what language you
want to work in. I opted for English. Result: French keyboard, English
environment. And that includes all the menus in all apps -- I think.

I'm not sure how to goback into the process and change the language the
machine operates under, but there must be a way -- No guarantees this
will give you what you want, but it's worth a try at least.
 
T

thg

And that includes all the menus in all apps -- I think.

No, only apps which have the necessary localization files for the
language you chose. Which can be easily changed by going to system
prefs/international/languages and moving your preferred language to
the top of the list and then logout/login. Many Apple apps come with
files for 18 languages. Unfortunately I think Office for Mac comes
with files for only one.
 
M

MC

thg said:
No, only apps which have the necessary localization files for the
language you chose. Which can be easily changed by going to system
prefs/international/languages and moving your preferred language to
the top of the list and then logout/login. Many Apple apps come with
files for 18 languages. Unfortunately I think Office for Mac comes
with files for only one.

Ahhh... too bad.
 
M

mlewanfr

Hi. I recently moved to France and purchased a copy of Office 2008 in France as I will not be returning to the US anytime soon. I do not however read French very well, therefore, I would like to change all the menus to English from French. How do you do this? The rest of the languages are English on the computer

I think you got an answer to your question from the other posters.

Could you answer a question from me?

Is there a language switcher, as there was with Office 2004, so you
can activate Asiatic features? This feature was only available in the
English versions of Office 2004, but perhaps MS has come to its senses
and adds it to the French version as well.

I have looked on the web sites and that information is nowhere to be
found. Of course they have no idea at FNAC.

Thanks for your help
Magnus
 
J

John McGhie

Hi Magnus:

Read the help topic " Multilingual features in Office 2008" for details of
all the language settings available.

The other poster was correct: Office for Mac currently is supplied with
only one user interface language. The Multilanguage User Interface add-on
available for PC Office is not available for Mac Office.

Cheers

I think you got an answer to your question from the other posters.

Could you answer a question from me?

Is there a language switcher, as there was with Office 2004, so you
can activate Asiatic features? This feature was only available in the
English versions of Office 2004, but perhaps MS has come to its senses
and adds it to the French version as well.

I have looked on the web sites and that information is nowhere to be
found. Of course they have no idea at FNAC.

Thanks for your help
Magnus

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M

mlewanfr

Hi John,

I had already read "Multilingual features in Office 2008", but it does
not specify what is in the French version.

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.m...bfc6a32e-bf18-4f5e-8545-fb5deb8300941033&ep=7

The page about proofing tools even specifies that the information
there is only for the US version.

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.m...ent&usid=35A37B2C-E225-ADF1-81A2-63A336235EA5

As the Japanese switcher was not present in the French version of
Office 2004 - only in the English version, I assume it is possible
that it still is absent in 2008, unless someone confirms that it is
indluded.

Cheers
Magnus
 
J

John McGhie

Yeah, I don't think we know yet: I don't think anyone has seen the French
version. Has it yet been released?


Hi John,

I had already read "Multilingual features in Office 2008", but it does
not specify what is in the French version.

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.mspx?CTT=PageView&clr=99-4-0&target=018ea317
-227f-49eb-963f-8d57bddd41d41033&parentid=bfc6a32e-bf18-4f5e-8545-fb5deb830094
1033&ep=7

The page about proofing tools even specifies that the information
there is only for the US version.

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.mspx?clr=99-4-0&srcid=018ea317-227f-49eb-963
f-8d57bddd41d41033&ep=9&target=6474a4a6-9d3e-4bde-a255-fb9286ef5d101033&CTT=In
Content&usid=35A37B2C-E225-ADF1-81A2-63A336235EA5

As the Japanese switcher was not present in the French version of
Office 2004 - only in the English version, I assume it is possible
that it still is absent in 2008, unless someone confirms that it is
indluded.

Cheers
Magnus

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Don't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/

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John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
http://jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/
Sydney, Australia. S33°53'34.20 E151°14'54.50
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 
M

mlewanfr

The original poster has seen it, and so have I. I held a box in my
hands yesterday, but did not buy it, as I could not get any
information about what the version contained.

Cheers
Magnus
 
J

John McGhie

OK, so hop over into the French Group and ask. That's
"microsoft.public.fr.mac" (I have cross-posted this message).

Sorry, *We* have never seen it, and not being part of Microsoft France, WE
can't get the detail you need.

Cheers

The original poster has seen it, and so have I. I held a box in my
hands yesterday, but did not buy it, as I could not get any
information about what the version contained.

Cheers
Magnus

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Don't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/

Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to.

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McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
http://jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/
Sydney, Australia. S33°53'34.20 E151°14'54.50
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 
M

mlewanfr

Merci a lot!

Magnus

OK, so hop over into the French Group and ask. That's
"microsoft.public.fr.mac" (I have cross-posted this message).

Sorry, *We* have never seen it, and not being part of Microsoft France, WE
can't get the detail you need.

Cheers
 
B

Bernard Rey

Hi Magnus,

Well, I'd certainly like to give a helpful reply, but I can't see what the
question is... I guess it is related to the "Microsoft language register"
tool that used to be suggested by the Help but that couldn't be installed on
the French version. But isn't that History? When the "International" Prefs
pane is set to Japanese, things seem to work as expected (my Japanese is not
fluent, I must admit). So, what should there be required? Is something
required with the US version of Office 2008?

All I can say is that I can type some Japanese glyphs: ゼッ ãµã¬ã‘手をゑ七味
But I don't know if this can bring any help...



Pour les francophones: J'essaye juste de comprendre quelle est réellement la
question. S'il s'agit juste de taper en japonais, il semble que les outils
système et le support Unicode suffisent. Si quelqu'un comprend mieux que
moi, qu'il(elle) n'hésite pas....


--
Bernard Rey - Toulouse / France
MVP - office:macintosh http://faq.office.macintosh.free.fr


mlewanfr :
 
M

mlewanfr

Thanks,

The help page at

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.m...ent&usid=0143986A-6656-744D-66B2-E6EFC1599102

hints that one still has to follow this procedure:

1. In the Finder, open Microsoft Office 2008/Additional Tools/
Microsoft Language Register.

2. On the Select the language to enable for Microsoft Office 2008 pop-
up menu, click Japanese, and then click OK.

You use the language register to activate additional Japanese features
like vertical text, phonetic guides and search options, and so on.
Typing in Japanese, however, should be possible even wihtout this
feature, as you figured out.

Cheers
Magnus
 
C

Corentin Cras-Méneur

mlewanfr said:
You use the language register to activate additional Japanese features
like vertical text, phonetic guides and search options, and so on.
Typing in Japanese, however, should be possible even wihtout this
feature, as you figured out.

Well there are a couple of issues....
In 2004 the Language register tool was only part of the US English
installation. It wasn't in the French version. I suspect the same
applies to 2008.

Office 2008 is now a packaged application that could support multiple
languages for the User Interface BUT it's not the case. The apps have
resources that are pretty huge and MS decided to ship them with only one
language inside. The French CD therefore only has the French resrouces
inside. You simply can't switch it to an English GUI


=--=-=-=-

En gros et pour simplifier: on ne peut pas passer une interface en
français en une interface en anglais. C'est techniquement faisable mais
pour des raison de taille des dossiers de ressources, MS a décidé de ne
pas mettre toutes les langues dans chacune des appli. Un CD français n'a
l'interface qu'en français. Pas de ressource en anglais.


Corentin
 
B

Bernard Rey

mlewanfr :
The help page at
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.mspx?clr=99-4-0&srcid=018ea317-227f-49eb-963f-
8d57bddd41d41033&ep=9&target=7a715c3c-70ca-4508-9cbd-2f8b0f9bd5631033&CTT=InCont
ent&usid=0143986A-6656-744D-66B2-E6EFC1599102

hints that one still has to follow this procedure:

1. In the Finder, open Microsoft Office 2008/Additional Tools/
Microsoft Language Register.

2. On the Select the language to enable for Microsoft Office 2008 pop-
up menu, click Japanese, and then click OK.

You use the language register to activate additional Japanese features
like vertical text, phonetic guides and search options, and so on.
Typing in Japanese, however, should be possible even wihtout this
feature, as you figured out.

Well in that case I'm afraid the answer is "No".

The applications having been "rewritten from the bottom", I can't say if the
Microsoft Language Register could now be installed on a French version if
one could get the hands on. Guess it's worth a try...
 
M

mlewanfr

mlewanfr :





Well in that case I'm afraid the answer is "No".

The applications having been "rewritten from the bottom", I can't say if the
Microsoft Language Register could now be installed on a French version if
one could get the hands on. Guess it's worth a try...

Thanks! That's all I needed to know. That means that I will not even
consider buying the French version.

Funny, how MS does not do much to broaden their potential customer
base. If you belong to the more than half a billion people in the
world who need right-to-left writing, Word for Mac is out of the
question. If you need VBA, Word 2008 is out of the question. And now,
if you need to write in Japanese but live in a non Japanese/non
English country, Word is out of the question. Well, I'll just buy it
when I'm abroad. For the time being non-French versions are not
available via French mail order.

Cheers
Magnus
 
C

Corentin Cras-Méneur

mlewanfr said:
. For the time being non-French versions are not
available via French mail order.

You might want to check if Amazon US would sent the US version to
France. I'd done so in the past,

Corentin
 

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