Frontpage File Upload.

B

Beaux

My company has multiple domains hosted on one server. Recently our server
administrator upgraded us to Windows server 2000 with IIS 5.0. I asked them
to give write permissions to a subfolder in one of my domains so that I could
later create an area for selected people to upload data.

After much trouble he finally told me it was done.

I never used this feature, nor did I link to the folder in any way.

Now our server has been hacked and he is telling me that someone uploaded a
file to domain "B" and executed it, because of the write permissions on the
subfolder in domain "A"

I am almost certain I am getting hosed here because he keeps mentioning
"billable time" if it is a result of something I did or requested.

Does this expanaition even come into the the realm of possible? Or is it
simply someone trying to cover his own mistakes?

Thanks in advance.
 
S

Steve Easton

Was the subfolder in A password protected?? It should have been.
Were permissions set to deny execution of scripts and executables. They
should have been.

You'd get better answers in one of the server news groups.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
B

Beaux

The Frontpage File Upload requires that script execution be disabled to use
the upload function. In fact, our administrator had a problem setting the
permissions properly until he learned this fact.

Even so, I don't understand how setting the permissions on 1 folder in a
domain can allow the upload and execution of a file in a seperate domain. I
assumed since this revolves around the frontpage upload bot, this was the
place to ask the question.
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Beaux: No where in your original post did you say you wanted to use the FP
File Upload form. Using the file upload feature of the FP 2002 server
extensions (no earlier versions will work) require set up as outlined in
this kb article.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299763&Product=fp2002
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===

| The Frontpage File Upload requires that script execution be disabled to
use
| the upload function. In fact, our administrator had a problem setting the
| permissions properly until he learned this fact.
|
| Even so, I don't understand how setting the permissions on 1 folder in a
| domain can allow the upload and execution of a file in a seperate domain.
I
| assumed since this revolves around the frontpage upload bot, this was the
| place to ask the question.
|
|
| "Steve Easton" wrote:
|
| > Was the subfolder in A password protected?? It should have been.
| > Were permissions set to deny execution of scripts and executables. They
| > should have been.
| >
| > You'd get better answers in one of the server news groups.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed............
| > ........................with a computer
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > > My company has multiple domains hosted on one server. Recently our
server
| > > administrator upgraded us to Windows server 2000 with IIS 5.0. I
asked
| > > them
| > > to give write permissions to a subfolder in one of my domains so that
I
| > > could
| > > later create an area for selected people to upload data.
| > >
| > > After much trouble he finally told me it was done.
| > >
| > > I never used this feature, nor did I link to the folder in any way.
| > >
| > > Now our server has been hacked and he is telling me that someone
uploaded
| > > a
| > > file to domain "B" and executed it, because of the write permissions
on
| > > the
| > > subfolder in domain "A"
| > >
| > > I am almost certain I am getting hosed here because he keeps
mentioning
| > > "billable time" if it is a result of something I did or requested.
| > >
| > > Does this expanaition even come into the the realm of possible? Or is
it
| > > simply someone trying to cover his own mistakes?
| > >
| > > Thanks in advance.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
| >
 
B

Beaux

My Apologies for not being clearer. However, I have that reference link and
even sent the link to our administrator with my request.

He did not catch the part about disabling script execution and until he
figured out that this had to be done, he could not get it working properly.
Finally he figured it out and that was about 3 weeks ago.

Since then, I have not worked on the site or changed anything in it. Now
our server has been hacked and he says that it was a result of my request.

However, the strange part is that the supposed executable that was uploaded,
was uploaded to a different domain on the server. That is the part I am
questioning. How is it that someone could use this, as yet, unused folder to
hack in through a different domain on the server?

Something seems fishy to me. More like maybe someone set the wrong
permissions in an attempt to get the function I requested working.

I know this is tedious, and I think I am probably being fed a line. I was
just hoping to find out more in one direction or another.

Thanks again.

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Beaux: No where in your original post did you say you wanted to use the FP
File Upload form. Using the file upload feature of the FP 2002 server
extensions (no earlier versions will work) require set up as outlined in
this kb article.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299763&Product=fp2002
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===

| The Frontpage File Upload requires that script execution be disabled to
use
| the upload function. In fact, our administrator had a problem setting the
| permissions properly until he learned this fact.
|
| Even so, I don't understand how setting the permissions on 1 folder in a
| domain can allow the upload and execution of a file in a seperate domain.
I
| assumed since this revolves around the frontpage upload bot, this was the
| place to ask the question.
|
|
| "Steve Easton" wrote:
|
| > Was the subfolder in A password protected?? It should have been.
| > Were permissions set to deny execution of scripts and executables. They
| > should have been.
| >
| > You'd get better answers in one of the server news groups.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed............
| > ........................with a computer
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > > My company has multiple domains hosted on one server. Recently our
server
| > > administrator upgraded us to Windows server 2000 with IIS 5.0. I
asked
| > > them
| > > to give write permissions to a subfolder in one of my domains so that
I
| > > could
| > > later create an area for selected people to upload data.
| > >
| > > After much trouble he finally told me it was done.
| > >
| > > I never used this feature, nor did I link to the folder in any way.
| > >
| > > Now our server has been hacked and he is telling me that someone
uploaded
| > > a
| > > file to domain "B" and executed it, because of the write permissions
on
| > > the
| > > subfolder in domain "A"
| > >
| > > I am almost certain I am getting hosed here because he keeps
mentioning
| > > "billable time" if it is a result of something I did or requested.
| > >
| > > Does this expanaition even come into the the realm of possible? Or is
it
| > > simply someone trying to cover his own mistakes?
| > >
| > > Thanks in advance.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
| >
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

It's very difficult to say what the server admin has done on that end. It
would be pure conjecture on our part.

--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| My Apologies for not being clearer. However, I have that reference link
and
| even sent the link to our administrator with my request.
|
| He did not catch the part about disabling script execution and until he
| figured out that this had to be done, he could not get it working
properly.
| Finally he figured it out and that was about 3 weeks ago.
|
| Since then, I have not worked on the site or changed anything in it. Now
| our server has been hacked and he says that it was a result of my request.
|
| However, the strange part is that the supposed executable that was
uploaded,
| was uploaded to a different domain on the server. That is the part I am
| questioning. How is it that someone could use this, as yet, unused folder
to
| hack in through a different domain on the server?
|
| Something seems fishy to me. More like maybe someone set the wrong
| permissions in an attempt to get the function I requested working.
|
| I know this is tedious, and I think I am probably being fed a line. I was
| just hoping to find out more in one direction or another.
|
| Thanks again.
|
| "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
|
| > Beaux: No where in your original post did you say you wanted to use the
FP
| > File Upload form. Using the file upload feature of the FP 2002 server
| > extensions (no earlier versions will work) require set up as outlined in
| > this kb article.
| >
| >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299763&Product=fp2002
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom [Pepper] Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > FrontPage Support:
| > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > ===
| >
| > | > | The Frontpage File Upload requires that script execution be disabled
to
| > use
| > | the upload function. In fact, our administrator had a problem setting
the
| > | permissions properly until he learned this fact.
| > |
| > | Even so, I don't understand how setting the permissions on 1 folder in
a
| > | domain can allow the upload and execution of a file in a seperate
domain.
| > I
| > | assumed since this revolves around the frontpage upload bot, this was
the
| > | place to ask the question.
| > |
| > |
| > | "Steve Easton" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Was the subfolder in A password protected?? It should have been.
| > | > Were permissions set to deny execution of scripts and executables.
They
| > | > should have been.
| > | >
| > | > You'd get better answers in one of the server news groups.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Steve Easton
| > | > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > | > 95isalive
| > | > This site is best viewed............
| > | > ........................with a computer
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > > My company has multiple domains hosted on one server. Recently
our
| > server
| > | > > administrator upgraded us to Windows server 2000 with IIS 5.0. I
| > asked
| > | > > them
| > | > > to give write permissions to a subfolder in one of my domains so
that
| > I
| > | > > could
| > | > > later create an area for selected people to upload data.
| > | > >
| > | > > After much trouble he finally told me it was done.
| > | > >
| > | > > I never used this feature, nor did I link to the folder in any
way.
| > | > >
| > | > > Now our server has been hacked and he is telling me that someone
| > uploaded
| > | > > a
| > | > > file to domain "B" and executed it, because of the write
permissions
| > on
| > | > > the
| > | > > subfolder in domain "A"
| > | > >
| > | > > I am almost certain I am getting hosed here because he keeps
| > mentioning
| > | > > "billable time" if it is a result of something I did or requested.
| > | > >
| > | > > Does this expanaition even come into the the realm of possible?
Or is
| > it
| > | > > simply someone trying to cover his own mistakes?
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks in advance.
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
B

Beaux

Thank you for your time. I understand it is hard for you to make a clear
judgement.

However, during the time I have been posting here, I have also been emailing
back and forth with the server administrator. Even though he has been
throwing blame at me and our company, I did not engage him in that aspect but
rather just tried to deal with the issues at hand. In the long run, if you
give someone enough rope, they will hang themselves.

I don't want to post our conversation, but he has, in an inadvertant manner
admitted that Anonymous FTP had been activated on our server. Not just for a
folder or domain, but on the whole server. I still have not confronted him
about it. It isn't worth my energy so I will let my boss deal with it since
all of our communications were CC'd to him.

Thanks for your patience.

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
It's very difficult to say what the server admin has done on that end. It
would be pure conjecture on our part.

--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| My Apologies for not being clearer. However, I have that reference link
and
| even sent the link to our administrator with my request.
|
| He did not catch the part about disabling script execution and until he
| figured out that this had to be done, he could not get it working
properly.
| Finally he figured it out and that was about 3 weeks ago.
|
| Since then, I have not worked on the site or changed anything in it. Now
| our server has been hacked and he says that it was a result of my request.
|
| However, the strange part is that the supposed executable that was
uploaded,
| was uploaded to a different domain on the server. That is the part I am
| questioning. How is it that someone could use this, as yet, unused folder
to
| hack in through a different domain on the server?
|
| Something seems fishy to me. More like maybe someone set the wrong
| permissions in an attempt to get the function I requested working.
|
| I know this is tedious, and I think I am probably being fed a line. I was
| just hoping to find out more in one direction or another.
|
| Thanks again.
|
| "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
|
| > Beaux: No where in your original post did you say you wanted to use the
FP
| > File Upload form. Using the file upload feature of the FP 2002 server
| > extensions (no earlier versions will work) require set up as outlined in
| > this kb article.
| >
| >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299763&Product=fp2002
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom [Pepper] Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > FrontPage Support:
| > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > ===
| >
| > | > | The Frontpage File Upload requires that script execution be disabled
to
| > use
| > | the upload function. In fact, our administrator had a problem setting
the
| > | permissions properly until he learned this fact.
| > |
| > | Even so, I don't understand how setting the permissions on 1 folder in
a
| > | domain can allow the upload and execution of a file in a seperate
domain.
| > I
| > | assumed since this revolves around the frontpage upload bot, this was
the
| > | place to ask the question.
| > |
| > |
| > | "Steve Easton" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Was the subfolder in A password protected?? It should have been.
| > | > Were permissions set to deny execution of scripts and executables.
They
| > | > should have been.
| > | >
| > | > You'd get better answers in one of the server news groups.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Steve Easton
| > | > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > | > 95isalive
| > | > This site is best viewed............
| > | > ........................with a computer
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > > My company has multiple domains hosted on one server. Recently
our
| > server
| > | > > administrator upgraded us to Windows server 2000 with IIS 5.0. I
| > asked
| > | > > them
| > | > > to give write permissions to a subfolder in one of my domains so
that
| > I
| > | > > could
| > | > > later create an area for selected people to upload data.
| > | > >
| > | > > After much trouble he finally told me it was done.
| > | > >
| > | > > I never used this feature, nor did I link to the folder in any
way.
| > | > >
| > | > > Now our server has been hacked and he is telling me that someone
| > uploaded
| > | > > a
| > | > > file to domain "B" and executed it, because of the write
permissions
| > on
| > | > > the
| > | > > subfolder in domain "A"
| > | > >
| > | > > I am almost certain I am getting hosed here because he keeps
| > mentioning
| > | > > "billable time" if it is a result of something I did or requested.
| > | > >
| > | > > Does this expanaition even come into the the realm of possible?
Or is
| > it
| > | > > simply someone trying to cover his own mistakes?
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks in advance.
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Anonymous FTP ... very, very bad. Not all all related to FP Upload
component. Looks like the server admin could get in very serious trouble.

Especially if the server has now been compromised. I know of situations
where servers had to be completely rebuilt because the outsiders had
control. Plus, flooded it with worms and trojans.

I don't envy the guy, but it looks like you have your bases covered.

Good luck.
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| Thank you for your time. I understand it is hard for you to make a clear
| judgement.
|
| However, during the time I have been posting here, I have also been
emailing
| back and forth with the server administrator. Even though he has been
| throwing blame at me and our company, I did not engage him in that aspect
but
| rather just tried to deal with the issues at hand. In the long run, if
you
| give someone enough rope, they will hang themselves.
|
| I don't want to post our conversation, but he has, in an inadvertant
manner
| admitted that Anonymous FTP had been activated on our server. Not just
for a
| folder or domain, but on the whole server. I still have not confronted
him
| about it. It isn't worth my energy so I will let my boss deal with it
since
| all of our communications were CC'd to him.
|
| Thanks for your patience.
|
| "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
|
| > It's very difficult to say what the server admin has done on that end.
It
| > would be pure conjecture on our part.
| >
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom [Pepper] Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > FrontPage Support:
| > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > ===
| > | > | My Apologies for not being clearer. However, I have that reference
link
| > and
| > | even sent the link to our administrator with my request.
| > |
| > | He did not catch the part about disabling script execution and until
he
| > | figured out that this had to be done, he could not get it working
| > properly.
| > | Finally he figured it out and that was about 3 weeks ago.
| > |
| > | Since then, I have not worked on the site or changed anything in it.
Now
| > | our server has been hacked and he says that it was a result of my
request.
| > |
| > | However, the strange part is that the supposed executable that was
| > uploaded,
| > | was uploaded to a different domain on the server. That is the part I
am
| > | questioning. How is it that someone could use this, as yet, unused
folder
| > to
| > | hack in through a different domain on the server?
| > |
| > | Something seems fishy to me. More like maybe someone set the wrong
| > | permissions in an attempt to get the function I requested working.
| > |
| > | I know this is tedious, and I think I am probably being fed a line. I
was
| > | just hoping to find out more in one direction or another.
| > |
| > | Thanks again.
| > |
| > | "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Beaux: No where in your original post did you say you wanted to use
the
| > FP
| > | > File Upload form. Using the file upload feature of the FP 2002
server
| > | > extensions (no earlier versions will work) require set up as
outlined in
| > | > this kb article.
| > | >
| > | >
| >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299763&Product=fp2002
| > | > --
| > | > ===
| > | > Tom [Pepper] Willett
| > | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > | > ---
| > | > FrontPage Support:
| > | > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| > | > About FrontPage 2003:
| > | > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > | > ===
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | The Frontpage File Upload requires that script execution be
disabled
| > to
| > | > use
| > | > | the upload function. In fact, our administrator had a problem
setting
| > the
| > | > | permissions properly until he learned this fact.
| > | > |
| > | > | Even so, I don't understand how setting the permissions on 1
folder in
| > a
| > | > | domain can allow the upload and execution of a file in a seperate
| > domain.
| > | > I
| > | > | assumed since this revolves around the frontpage upload bot, this
was
| > the
| > | > | place to ask the question.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "Steve Easton" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Was the subfolder in A password protected?? It should have
been.
| > | > | > Were permissions set to deny execution of scripts and
executables.
| > They
| > | > | > should have been.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You'd get better answers in one of the server news groups.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Steve Easton
| > | > | > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > | > | > 95isalive
| > | > | > This site is best viewed............
| > | > | > ........................with a computer
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > My company has multiple domains hosted on one server.
Recently
| > our
| > | > server
| > | > | > > administrator upgraded us to Windows server 2000 with IIS 5.0.
I
| > | > asked
| > | > | > > them
| > | > | > > to give write permissions to a subfolder in one of my domains
so
| > that
| > | > I
| > | > | > > could
| > | > | > > later create an area for selected people to upload data.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > After much trouble he finally told me it was done.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I never used this feature, nor did I link to the folder in any
| > way.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Now our server has been hacked and he is telling me that
someone
| > | > uploaded
| > | > | > > a
| > | > | > > file to domain "B" and executed it, because of the write
| > permissions
| > | > on
| > | > | > > the
| > | > | > > subfolder in domain "A"
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I am almost certain I am getting hosed here because he keeps
| > | > mentioning
| > | > | > > "billable time" if it is a result of something I did or
requested.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Does this expanaition even come into the the realm of
possible?
| > Or is
| > | > it
| > | > | > > simply someone trying to cover his own mistakes?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Thanks in advance.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 

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