FTP

B

Bill gold

Is publishing from front page using server extensions
the same as ftp
I undertand that widows explorer can publish from my PC to a server by
typing in FTP://
Does that mean that paid ftp services (cute, etc.) are no longer necessary?
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

No. Publishing via FTP is different than publishing with the FP server
extensions.
FTP paid services are necessary, unless you have a host that doesn't charge
for them.
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| Is publishing from front page using server extensions
| the same as ftp
| I undertand that widows explorer can publish from my PC to a server by
| typing in FTP://
| Does that mean that paid ftp services (cute, etc.) are no longer
necessary?
| --
| bill
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

I wonder if Bill meant buying; CuteFTP or WS_ftp programs?


| No. Publishing via FTP is different than publishing with the FP server
| extensions.
| FTP paid services are necessary, unless you have a host that doesn't
charge
| for them.
| --
| ===
| Tom [Pepper] Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| ---
| FrontPage Support:
| http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
|
| About FrontPage 2003:
| http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| ===
| || Is publishing from front page using server extensions
|| the same as ftp
|| I undertand that widows explorer can publish from my PC to a server by
|| typing in FTP://
|| Does that mean that paid ftp services (cute, etc.) are no longer
| necessary?
|| --
|| bill
|
|
 
B

Bill gold

yes cuteFTP or WS_ftp
Why use such programs if windows explorer or FP extensions work just as well
 
B

Bill gold

Why are they necessary? I have been using FP extensions for 2 years without
problems.
 
S

Steve Easton

FTP programs aren't necessary if you're publishing using extensions and http:// in
FrontPage.

Actually they aren't necessary at all because you can publish using FTP with FrontPage
providing the server does "not" have extensions installed.

Additionally, you can open an ftp capable domain in Internet Explorer using
ftp://domainname.com and drag and drop files to and from the server.

You can also ftp from a command window.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer

Bill gold said:
Why are they necessary? I have been using FP extensions for 2 years without
problems.
--
bill


Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
No. Publishing via FTP is different than publishing with the FP server
extensions.
FTP paid services are necessary, unless you have a host that doesn't charge
for them.
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| Is publishing from front page using server extensions
| the same as ftp
| I undertand that widows explorer can publish from my PC to a server by
| typing in FTP://
| Does that mean that paid ftp services (cute, etc.) are no longer
necessary?
| --
| bill
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

They aren't necessary. In fact using them to upload instead of Publishing
through FP to an FP extended web will break the extensions.

But, some people use them on non-extended webs or subwebs/sites of a FP
extended web. You can just as well use the ftp client _built into IE
browser_ as well.


| yes cuteFTP or WS_ftp
| Why use such programs if windows explorer or FP extensions work just as
well
| --
| bill
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > I wonder if Bill meant buying; CuteFTP or WS_ftp programs?
| >
| >
| > | > | No. Publishing via FTP is different than publishing with the FP
server
| > | extensions.
| > | FTP paid services are necessary, unless you have a host that doesn't
| > charge
| > | for them.
| > | --
| > | ===
| > | Tom [Pepper] Willett
| > | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > | ---
| > | FrontPage Support:
| > | http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| > |
| > | About FrontPage 2003:
| > | http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > | ===
| > | | > || Is publishing from front page using server extensions
| > || the same as ftp
| > || I undertand that widows explorer can publish from my PC to a server
by
| > || typing in FTP://
| > || Does that mean that paid ftp services (cute, etc.) are no longer
| > | necessary?
| > || --
| > || bill
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| >
 
T

Trevor L.

Steve said:
Additionally, you can open an ftp capable domain in Internet Explorer
using ftp://domainname.com and drag and drop files to and from the
server.

That's useful info. Steve.

In the past, I have had to search for free FTP programs to upload files to
FTP servers w/o FP extensions, including my personal website (below) and a
site which manages photos and also uses FTP for upload.

Now I don't have to worry. I can do it all from Internet Explorer, which
actually opens as another folder in Windows Explorer - great !!
Of course, the FTP option in FrontPage is also great as it checks that the
on-line web is synchronised with the disk web.

But I did find when opening the server in IE that it is named
ftp://ftp.homemail.com.au/ (i.e. there is an extra "ftp." in the name), but
I suppose this may vary from server to server.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

3rd Party FTP applications may offer you additional features and functions that you would like to
use.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

Bill gold said:
yes cuteFTP or WS_ftp
Why use such programs if windows explorer or FP extensions work just as well
--
bill


Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
I wonder if Bill meant buying; CuteFTP or WS_ftp programs?


| No. Publishing via FTP is different than publishing with the FP server
| extensions.
| FTP paid services are necessary, unless you have a host that doesn't
charge
| for them.
| --
| ===
| Tom [Pepper] Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| ---
| FrontPage Support:
| http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
|
| About FrontPage 2003:
| http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| ===
| || Is publishing from front page using server extensions
|| the same as ftp
|| I undertand that widows explorer can publish from my PC to a server by
|| typing in FTP://
|| Does that mean that paid ftp services (cute, etc.) are no longer
| necessary?
|| --
|| bill
|
|
 
R

Red_Corvette

OK, newbie here. I've wet my feet on my first hobby web site at
www.jacnsue.com and have been using the method described below (drop and drag
to an ftp) to load content. What advantage will I gain, if any, by switching
to Publish from FP. I'm using godaddy and have FP Extensions installed. I'm
learning as I go, but since I taught myself Access well enough to write the
contract managment program my health care corporate employer uses, I figure I
can learn FP
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

You will be able to use any of the FP Run time components and open your site online live in FP
See http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/servers.mspx

PS
Since you have been using FTP the FP SE on your site are corrupted
- have the host reinstall them
Then see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825528&Product=fp2003

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


| OK, newbie here. I've wet my feet on my first hobby web site at
| www.jacnsue.com and have been using the method described below (drop and drag
| to an ftp) to load content. What advantage will I gain, if any, by switching
| to Publish from FP. I'm using godaddy and have FP Extensions installed. I'm
| learning as I go, but since I taught myself Access well enough to write the
| contract managment program my health care corporate employer uses, I figure I
| can learn FP
| --
| Jac
|
|
| "Trevor L." wrote:
|
| > Steve Easton wrote:
| > > Additionally, you can open an ftp capable domain in Internet Explorer
| > > using ftp://domainname.com and drag and drop files to and from the
| > > server.
| >
| > That's useful info. Steve.
| >
| > In the past, I have had to search for free FTP programs to upload files to
| > FTP servers w/o FP extensions, including my personal website (below) and a
| > site which manages photos and also uses FTP for upload.
| >
| > Now I don't have to worry. I can do it all from Internet Explorer, which
| > actually opens as another folder in Windows Explorer - great !!
| > Of course, the FTP option in FrontPage is also great as it checks that the
| > on-line web is synchronised with the disk web.
| >
| > But I did find when opening the server in IE that it is named
| > ftp://ftp.homemail.com.au/ (i.e. there is an extra "ftp." in the name), but
| > I suppose this may vary from server to server.
| > --
| > Cheers,
| > Trevor L.
| > Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
| >
| >
| >
 
R

Red_Corvette

Stefan,

Helpful info. My host is GoDaddy and the control panel gives me an
opportunity to uninstall then reinstall the FP extensions. Please bear with
me if these sound like "dumb" questions:

Do I have to publish the whole web or can I just publish one page (to try it
out)? Do I publish to the ftp site for my web or directly to the http?
--
Jac


Stefan B Rusynko said:
You will be able to use any of the FP Run time components and open your site online live in FP
See http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/servers.mspx

PS
Since you have been using FTP the FP SE on your site are corrupted
- have the host reinstall them
Then see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825528&Product=fp2003

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


| OK, newbie here. I've wet my feet on my first hobby web site at
| www.jacnsue.com and have been using the method described below (drop and drag
| to an ftp) to load content. What advantage will I gain, if any, by switching
| to Publish from FP. I'm using godaddy and have FP Extensions installed. I'm
| learning as I go, but since I taught myself Access well enough to write the
| contract managment program my health care corporate employer uses, I figure I
| can learn FP
| --
| Jac
|
|
| "Trevor L." wrote:
|
| > Steve Easton wrote:
| > > Additionally, you can open an ftp capable domain in Internet Explorer
| > > using ftp://domainname.com and drag and drop files to and from the
| > > server.
| >
| > That's useful info. Steve.
| >
| > In the past, I have had to search for free FTP programs to upload files to
| > FTP servers w/o FP extensions, including my personal website (below) and a
| > site which manages photos and also uses FTP for upload.
| >
| > Now I don't have to worry. I can do it all from Internet Explorer, which
| > actually opens as another folder in Windows Explorer - great !!
| > Of course, the FTP option in FrontPage is also great as it checks that the
| > on-line web is synchronised with the disk web.
| >
| > But I did find when opening the server in IE that it is named
| > ftp://ftp.homemail.com.au/ (i.e. there is an extra "ftp." in the name), but
| > I suppose this may vary from server to server.
| > --
| > Cheers,
| > Trevor L.
| > Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
| >
| >
| >
 
A

Andrew Murray

Publish by http: with the server extensions installed or by FTP without the
server extensions.

You can publish the whole site, or individual files.

Red_Corvette said:
Stefan,

Helpful info. My host is GoDaddy and the control panel gives me an
opportunity to uninstall then reinstall the FP extensions. Please bear
with
me if these sound like "dumb" questions:

Do I have to publish the whole web or can I just publish one page (to try
it
out)? Do I publish to the ftp site for my web or directly to the http?
--
Jac


Stefan B Rusynko said:
You will be able to use any of the FP Run time components and open your
site online live in FP
See http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/servers.mspx

PS
Since you have been using FTP the FP SE on your site are corrupted
- have the host reinstall them
Then see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825528&Product=fp2003

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


| OK, newbie here. I've wet my feet on my first hobby web site at
| www.jacnsue.com and have been using the method described below (drop
and drag
| to an ftp) to load content. What advantage will I gain, if any, by
switching
| to Publish from FP. I'm using godaddy and have FP Extensions
installed. I'm
| learning as I go, but since I taught myself Access well enough to write
the
| contract managment program my health care corporate employer uses, I
figure I
| can learn FP
| --
| Jac
|
|
| "Trevor L." wrote:
|
| > Steve Easton wrote:
| > > Additionally, you can open an ftp capable domain in Internet
Explorer
| > > using ftp://domainname.com and drag and drop files to and from the
| > > server.
| >
| > That's useful info. Steve.
| >
| > In the past, I have had to search for free FTP programs to upload
files to
| > FTP servers w/o FP extensions, including my personal website (below)
and a
| > site which manages photos and also uses FTP for upload.
| >
| > Now I don't have to worry. I can do it all from Internet Explorer,
which
| > actually opens as another folder in Windows Explorer - great !!
| > Of course, the FTP option in FrontPage is also great as it checks
that the
| > on-line web is synchronised with the disk web.
| >
| > But I did find when opening the server in IE that it is named
| > ftp://ftp.homemail.com.au/ (i.e. there is an extra "ftp." in the
name), but
| > I suppose this may vary from server to server.
| > --
| > Cheers,
| > Trevor L.
| > Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
| >
| >
| >
 

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