General question

[Panos]

Hello again,

I am planning to make a new website with about 50 pages, but i am thinking
about the publishing procedure.Until now when i want to update my current
small website ( 7 pages ) i use the " publish to the web" option but it
takes long time about 4-5 minutes.
If i will make a website with 50 pages and then i want to make any small
change i suppose it will take more than 40 min.Is any other way to update the
site? for example if i make a change in the page N.12 can i publish only this
page instend to all the site?

 

[DavidF]

The more images you use, the longer it will take to upload. Be sure to
compress all images before uploading and you will find that your upload
time, and the time it takes to load your pages will be minimized. Plus
Publisher is less likely to make additional copies of the image files if you
compress them, which further reduces the weight of what you are uploading.

Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
pages:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx

The incremental upload option under Tools > Options > Web tab only works
with HTTP uploading. If memory serves, you are using FTP so that won't help.
Uncheck the option. So, the answer to your question is basically no, and
that is one of the limitations of Publisher. The larger the site, the harder
it is to manage. Your only real alternative is to break the site up and use
multiple Publisher files to produce your site, and thus allowing you to
update parts of the site instead of the whole thing each time.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

I should add that you can update just a single published page of your site
without uploading the whole site each time, under some circumstances.

If the only change to the page in the Publisher file is textual, and you
don't change the layout or the images, then you can upload just the .htm
file for that page.

If you are going to grow your site, then you might plan ahead and start
thinking about breaking it up and building it with multiple Pub files. You
,for example, could produce your pictures page in its own Pub file and
upload it to its own folder, and link to it from the main web. This way you
would save the time of uploading all those images each time.

I guess I feel that if you are going to try to build a large site with
Publisher, then you better plan on breaking it up. And at some point it will
make more sense to move to a different web building program that will be
better for large sites.

If you want to understand more about building your site with multiple Pub
files, read the thread: Creating individual pub files 4/14/08 by Christiaan.
That is in reference to splitting up a 200+ page site.

DavidF

 

[Panos]

Thanks for your answer, i was trying to do this that you mentioned below ( to
upload only the .htm file for the page that i made the textual changes ) but
it dosent work correctly..when i check the page after that it was not
displayed everything correctly, there were missing some pictures..

the process that i follow is:

1) I made a small textual change ( actually i add only a new link ) in
publisher
2) i saved the whole publication using the Save as>Web Page
3) in the directory that i saved it, i found the page that i made the change
and i copy the file in my FTP
4) In my Ftp the original file had a name like " index_Links.htm" but
publisher save the files like "index_page016.htm" so i rename the file like
it was " index_Links.htm"

Can you tell me what i am doing wrong and it dosent work...if i will find
the way to do it will be very helpful because when i want to make any small
change i have to publish again all the website and it takes long time...

Thanks a loy

 

[DavidF]

Panos,

Based on what you said you did, it sounds like you may have done a couple
things wrong.

First of all, I don't remember which version of Publisher you are using but
you do not produce web pages from your Pub file by doing a "Save as a web
page" (except for Pub 2000). Instead you go to File > "Publish to the
web"....as a general rule.

Secondly if your original page was named " index_Links.htm" that suggests
two things. First of that you are not using a subfolder to organize your
supporting graphics and other pages, when you produce your html pages, and
that is fine. The problem is that to get a custom file name in Pub 2003 or
2007 you go to Tools > Web Page Options and under Publish to the Web you
have the option of creating a custom name for the .htm file that will be
generated when you do "publish to the web". On the page where you have the
"links" you apparently added "Links" to that field, at least originally.
When you don't use a subfolder and you choose a custom file name of "Links"
then you end up with a file called "index_Links.htm". The fact that you
chose to upload a page called "index_page016.htm" implies that you selected
the wrong file, which would of course messes up that page if you upload it.
Try "Publish to the Web" again and see if you can find "index_Links.htm".

Another thing...you cannot change the layout of a page and expect this
"trick" of just uploading the .htm file. If you change the length of the
text box then that will shift everything around. If your only edit or change
is within the text box, and you don't change the height or the width, then
you should be able to make the change without uploading all the other design
elements on the page...they will be the same, and will be in the same place
as before.

DavidF

 

[Panos]

Thank you David, i just tried what you said, to save the files with " publish
to the web" option and i got the correct file names..Also i have sucesfully
upload the new .htm file and everything is fine...

Thanks you very much, you saved me lot of time waiting in front of the
screen

Best regards
Panos

 

[DavidF]

Glad it worked out. Thanks for the feedback.

DavidF