hang paragraphs in onenote

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Glen Nichols

I love onenote for research but in compiling/formatting notes it would often
be handy to be able to type hang paragraghs in notes. Is this possible? one
can do lists and bullets, but not hang paragraphs that I can see
 
S

Steve Thackery

I love onenote for research but in compiling/formatting notes it would
often
be handy to be able to type hang paragraghs in notes. Is this possible?
one
can do lists and bullets, but not hang paragraphs that I can see

To be honest, OneNote isn't really intended as a program for fancy page
layouts - it's main strength is in gathering and organising information. I
think you're supposed to cut 'n' paste it into Word for prettifying and
printing out.

I guess hanging indents aren't regarded as relevant to the basic gathering,
collating and organising functions of OneNote.

SteveT
 
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Glen Nichols

Thanks. I take that as a "no." I would hardly call hang paragraphs "fancy
page layouts"... certainly not a matter of prettifying, but of trying to
organize complex lists in a way that makes them readable... as in biblio
entries for example. Guess that's not what a "basic gathering" means to the
target microsoft consumer as viewed by microsoft designers. Too bad basic
professional work is beyond the microsoft "it's for dummies" approach.
 
J

John Waller

That last sentence was a very disappointing end to an otherwise useful
discussion.

Different people seem to have quite different expectations of what
constitutes fancy page layouts. I definitely put hang paragraphs into that
category and would not expect OneNote to support them.

The OneNote team has obviously had to make some design decisions regarding
what OneNote is and isn't and what features will be included. Their choices
seem to simultaneously disappoint and please a diverse group of end users.
 
S

Steve Thackery

Too bad basic
professional work is beyond the microsoft "it's for dummies" approach.

I think you're being a little harsh, to be honest. OneNote is a relatively
new product, and it has blazed something of a trail - there are very few
other programs indeed with anything like similar functionality.

Clearly OneNote is still finding its niche - it's not like a word processor
or spreadsheet, where everyone's been using them for twenty years and
there's a clear consensus on what's expected of them.

MS designed a brand new product with little or nothing else similar to copy
or be inspired by. Yes, they may have made some decisions you disagree
with, and some I disagree with, but on the whole it's a pretty good effort.
And I'm sure that the next release will more closely match the expectations
of we users.

Hunt around on the MS website (sorry, I can't find the URL just now) and you
will find a set of pages specifically dedicated to gathering OneNote user
experiences and comments. So long as you remain constructive, rather than
dismissive, I think there's a good chance that your views will be listened
to by the development team.

SteveT
 
R

Rainald Taesler

Glen said:
Thanks. I take that as a "no." I would hardly call hang paragraphs
"fancy page layouts"... certainly not a matter of prettifying, but
of trying to organize complex lists in a way that makes them
readable... as in biblio entries for example. Guess that's not what
a "basic gathering" means to the target microsoft consumer as
viewed by microsoft designers. Too bad basic professional work is
beyond the microsoft "it's for dummies" approach.

I fully agree with other replies as far as your last sentence is
concerned. Really rough and and at all true.

I also agree with the others that with a tool aiming at note-taking and
collecting all kinds of information one can not expect all of the
features of a fully fledged wordprocessor. For sure ON is no substitute
for Word.

Apart from that I do not see what you are missing in ON.
"Hang paragraphs" are a basic thing if editing in ON.
Whenever one uses a TAB for indenting a line and starts typing, the text
will be indenting and "hanging", each line starting at the position of
the TAB.

Furthermore: It's really easy to indent an existing paragraph (and/or
multiple paragraphs) and have is text left aligned :
just mark the paragraph and then use TAB.
And the same can be done the other way around:
If a paragraph is indented, just mark it and use Shift+TAB. This will
move the paragraph to the left.

What more do you want?
Which might be your problems in so far?
Pls be so kind as to explain.
I'm pretty sure that we might find solutions.

Rainald
 
S

Steve Silverwood

I think you're being a little harsh, to be honest. OneNote is a relatively
new product, and it has blazed something of a trail - there are very few
other programs indeed with anything like similar functionality.

Clearly OneNote is still finding its niche - it's not like a word processor
or spreadsheet, where everyone's been using them for twenty years and
there's a clear consensus on what's expected of them.

MS designed a brand new product with little or nothing else similar to copy
or be inspired by. Yes, they may have made some decisions you disagree
with, and some I disagree with, but on the whole it's a pretty good effort.
And I'm sure that the next release will more closely match the expectations
of we users.

I think that paragraph right there sums it up quite well. Yes,
Microsoft created a brand new genre of application. Visicalc did that
way back when, and people griped because the columns couldn't be sized
independently of each other -- if you set one colum to be 10
characters wide, all of them were 10 characters wide. Later products,
including Microsoft's MultiPlan, provided that capability and more.

//Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Web: http://kb6ojs.com
 
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Steve Silverwood

I also agree with the others that with a tool aiming at note-taking and
collecting all kinds of information one can not expect all of the
features of a fully fledged wordprocessor. For sure ON is no substitute
for Word.

Correct. OneNote was apparently, and correctly, designed from a
standpoint of capturing data from multiple sources and for note-taking
in outline or "free" form. It's not designed, nor was it intended,
for extended word-processing capabilities. For those few times that
I've needed more full-featured formatting tools, I simply export the
document to Word for the "finishing touches" -- AFTER collecting and
organizing the data in OneNote.

//Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Web: http://kb6ojs.com
 

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