Have I stumped the MVPs?

[Dale Fye]

Over the years, I've been really impressed with the way that the Access MVPs
and others seem to answer almost every post, or at least the ones where the
OP is engaged, and answers the questions posed by the newsgroup volunteers.
I've visited a lot of the other MS newsgroups, and would be willing to bet
that the response rate in the Access groups is among the highest.

However, lately, I've had a couple of posts which have not gotten a single
reply:

Trusted publisher / Digital Signature
(http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...2845&mid=3c263a94-5463-48b8-b68f-05856f1d2845).
With this one, I even reposted, and then sent an email to the Access Team
from their Blog site. Still no response.

and

A2007 Report not evaluation Where Condition
(http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...0e46&mid=72645444-424a-4376-bf7b-934229e00e46).
I thought this might have to do with using SharePoint lists as my data
store, but I pulled all of the pertinent tables reports and forms into a
stand-alone application, and it still has this problem. Would be willing to
send a copy to anyone interested in taking a look.

So, the question of the day is: When you cannot get an answer, even from
some of the best Access developers in the world, where do you turn next? Do
you have to pay for technical assistance to get someone from Microsoft to
get an answer? Pay to join "Experts-Exchange" or one of the other web sites
that are basically fee-for-service? Or is there another option?

Dale

 

[Banana]

So, the question of the day is: When you cannot get an answer, even from
some of the best Access developers in the world, where do you turn next? Do
you have to pay for technical assistance to get someone from Microsoft to
get an answer? Pay to join "Experts-Exchange" or one of the other web sites
that are basically fee-for-service? Or is there another option?

Dale

Good question.

I would note that this newsgroups is just one of great resources
available; there are several other sites dedicated to all things Access
and you may want to try them. I know there are few MVPs who for whatever
reasons deign to not post in NGs (and vice versa as well) as well
several non-MVPs but otherwise quite knowledgeable posters.

Some sites to look at:

utteraccess.com
access-programmers.co.uk/forums/
www.mdbmakers.com/forums/
www.developerbarn.com/microsoft-access/

No fees are required and you usually have to register to post there.

You could try and post questions there and see if someone else who isn't
regular of NG provide an answer to the question.

There's also Experts Exchange but as you said, it's fee-based. I've
occasionally used the resources of EE (if you look below you will find
out that you really don't have to pay but you definitely will have to
pay if you want to post something over there).

Finally, I've had good luck just using Google. Sometime the topic isn't
about Access but rather Office so I just try to keep my queries broad
and look into different programs (e.g. Excel) that may have had more
occurances of the problem as discussed. There's practically always a
site somewhere that address a weird quirk and actually can be relevant.
A case in point: When I needed to create digital signatures that could
be shared among multiple developers without paying a CA, I was able to
piece information from three sites to create a self-signed certificate
that could be imported & installed on other computer and that worked
well for our needs, security risks not withstanding.


Hopefully one of those sites will help you out.

 

[Wayne-I-M]

However, lately, I've had a couple of posts which have not gotten a single

reply:

This is normally as (simply) no one wants to answer that question, or they
haven't seen it, or they haven't got time, or .......

So have you "beaten the MVP's" = No, they just don't want to answer,
haven’t seen it, don't have time,....etc

But also - I am not an expert or MVP by the way - the answer to your second
problem concerning the records not being filtered the 1st time each day seems
very simple - which is why (maybe, as I can't talk for the experts) they
didn't answer as it would be / ma be better if you worked it out yourself.

To start you off. Are you using an unbound form to apply the filte?? there
you go a BIG clue
There "are" work around you know. eg (just one BTW) why not create a single
record table and (on close of the form simply = null the controls/fields) you
don't need to be an MVP for that.



As for your 1st question sorry but don't have the time right now

 

[Gina Whipp]

Dale,

Key is "...almost every post...". I would image a few slip thru the cracks,
no moving along...

I am willing to take a stab at question 1, which I did so now waiting in you
to reply. As for question 2, not sure I am knowledgeable enough about
Trusted Publishers and/or Digital Signatures BUT form what little I know
THOUGHT those applied to add-ons, macros, etc... Therefore the actual
databases must be placed in a Trusted Location. You really can't compare
Access 2003 and Access 2007 as they are two different animals though they
both have stripes.

Have a look at this and see if it can help you set up a Trusted Location
http://accessjunkie.com/faq_33.aspx

Perhaps, when/if someone has time they can direct you to a site that
explains it better then my meager attempt!

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

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[Jeanette Cunningham]

Hi Dale,
I have passed this question on to the MVPs.
Both questions are outside my area of expertise, but I am sure there will be
an MVP who can help.


Jeanette Cunningham MS Access MVP -- Melbourne Victoria Australia

 

[Jeanette Cunningham]

Dale, would you send a copy of the db with the report issue to
jjcc14 at gmail dot com


Jeanette Cunningham MS Access MVP -- Melbourne Victoria Australia

 

[David H]

You gotta do what you gotta do. Overall, I've been quite happy with this
newsgroup in the 10 or so years that I've been around and never visit
elsewhere. Granted, my Access knowledge is such that I don't think I've
actually asked a questions in eons.

However, when it comes to ASP.NET, that's a whole other story. There's one
particular site that has excellent articles and a forum, however the forum
isn't as active as others. So typically, I don't post there. I do have a
membership with experts-exchanged and its provide quite useful. Although I do
pay for it, for some reason its turned out to be the forum of last resort -
which their analysts probably enjoy. At any rate, $12.95 to solve multiple
problems has been well worth it.

 

[Dale Fye]

Wayne,

My question was rather rhetorical, or so I thought. I was just hoping it
would pique the interest of some of the MVPs and get someone to address
either of them.

I don't understand your clue regarding the unbound form. If you read the
post thoroughly, you would see that every time I run the OpenReport method,
the critieria string reads according to my wishes, but the first time it is
opened, it does not implement the filter. In 13 years of working with
Access, I don't ever remember encountering this issue with the report not
properly filtering.

Thanks anyway!

Dale

 

[Dale Fye]

Gina,

I had been putting the apps in a Trusted Location, right until my client
disabled Trusted Locations on all computers in the organization.

Thanks anyway.

 

[Dale Fye]

Jeanette,

I've got it at work, and will do so when I get in tomorrow.

Thanks.

 

[Gina Whipp]

Dale,

Even on their locals? This would also apply to other Office 2007
applications, so does everyone save to the Server?

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Over the years, I've been really impressed with the way that the Access MVPs
and others seem to answer almost every post, or at least the ones where the
OP is engaged, and answers the questions posed by the newsgroup volunteers.
I've visited a lot of the other MS newsgroups, and would be willing to bet
that the response rate in the Access groups is among the highest.

Thanks for the kind words.

However, lately, I've had a couple of posts which have not gotten a single
reply:

So, the question of the day is: When you cannot get an answer, even from
some of the best Access developers in the world, where do you turn next? Do
you have to pay for technical assistance to get someone from Microsoft to
get an answer?

There are some good online forums that have been suggested.

One alternative is that MVPs do get a few free support calls a year
for which they can use on behalf of a newsgroup requester. Or maybe
give the newsgroup requester.

So if you like email me and I'll see about getting one of those for
you.

Tony

 

[Dale Fye]

Thanks Vandal,

Forgot to search Allen's site and that was spot on. I changed the reports
FilterOnLoad property to Yes, and it worked immediately.

The KB article was about something entirely different. Thanks anyway.

 

[Dale Fye]

Jeanette,

Thanks for the offer, but AccessVandal pointed me to Allen Browne's site
regarding filtering bugs. Apparently this is not new. I was able to resolve
the problem by setting the reports FilterOnLoad property to Yes.

Thanks again.

 

[Dale Fye]

My client has locked down Trusted Locations on all network and local
computers. They are aware of the implications, but the Information Assurance
folks seem to rule the day around here at the moment.

Since we all have digital signatures, we are generally able to sign our
Word, Excel or Powerpoint files that contain macros, and then add ourselves
to the trusted publishers list. However, this doesn't work with Access 2007.
Hopefully, I'm just missing something, but the lack of responses implies
that very few people have been using this functionality.

 

[Dale Fye]

Tony,

Thanks for the offer.

I got the report problem resolved (bug in Access that Allen Browne has
documented).

Let me check a couple of the other resources that have been mentioned. If I
still don't get an answer on the trusted publisher/digital signature thing I
may give you a holler.

 

[Gina Whipp]

Dale,

You might be right there... well, hopefully one of the others can figure
out a solution. Please post back with the answer as you may be the first to
have this issue but you won't be the last!

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

 

[Dale Fye]

Tony,

Never was able to get an answer or even a nibble about my issues with not
being able to create a digitally signed accde file. Any chance your free
support call offer is still available?

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Never was able to get an answer or even a nibble about my issues with not
being able to create a digitally signed accde file. Any chance your free
support call offer is still available?

Yup. Send me an email and I'll do some research on this topic.

Tony
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[Dale Fye]

Sorry, Tony.

I've been out of town for a couple of days. Will try to send you the email
this evening. Is your email address that is visible in user profiles correct?

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HTH
Dale