Header Way Too Large! Table Problem.

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Todd Walton

I have had an interesting problem with headers and tables in a Word
2003 document. This is the problem, and a workaround fix.

In a ~100 page document, there's a long section of table. I want to
put headers into this document and so I View -> Headers and Footers.
When I do this I see that the header is taking up 3/4 of the page!
The header is way too big, and extends down all the way to the
footer. After much wrangling and teeth-gnashing I figured out that it
was the table.

The table is one long continuous thing extending over multiple pages.
I guess the header doesn't see it as content if it's just continued
from the previous page, and so the header goes all the way down. When
I put my cursor on the last row of the table on any given page, and
then select Table -> Split Table, the header rights itself on the next
page.

This is far from ideal. Now when I add information to the split up
tables on any given page it spills over to the next page and I'm stuck
with reformatting all over again. And splitting the table on the
first page messes up my column headings with overlaid text. (I
haven't yet investigated why.) It would be nice if Word were
intelligent enough to handle headers in a multi-page continuous table.

But I figured I'd post this bit of information. Everything I found
online (including in this forum) suggested checking that vertical
alignment, in page setup of the header, was set to top and not
center. That wasn't relevant to my problem. Check your tables!
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

I've never had this problem caused by a table (and I have 84-page document
consisting entirely of a 3,603-row table), but if your table has only a
single row, that could be an issue. If that's the case, it wouldn't be
necessary to actually split the table, just divide the content into more
rows.
 
T

Todd Walton

I've never had this problem caused by a table (and I have 84-page document
consisting entirely of a 3,603-row table), but if your table has only a
single row, that could be an issue. If that's the case, it wouldn't be
necessary to actually split the table, just divide the content into more
rows.

For what it's worth, I was unable to replicate the problem. It's only
in this one document.

-todd
 
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Betty McDonagh

FYI....I just came across this same problem in a document that was sent to me for editing. After a few hours of messing with it, I found that if you go to Table Properties, and under the TABLE tab, select Text Wrapping-None, the header goes back to the top of the page. Better late than never!! Thanks



Todd Walton wrote:

Header Way Too Large! Table Problem.
29-Jun-07

I have had an interesting problem with headers and tables in a Wor
2003 document. This is the problem, and a workaround fix

In a ~100 page document, there's a long section of table. I want t
put headers into this document and so I View -> Headers and Footers
When I do this I see that the header is taking up 3/4 of the page
The header is way too big, and extends down all the way to th
footer. After much wrangling and teeth-gnashing I figured out that i
was the table

The table is one long continuous thing extending over multiple pages
I guess the header doesn't see it as content if it's just continue
from the previous page, and so the header goes all the way down. Whe
I put my cursor on the last row of the table on any given page, an
then select Table -> Split Table, the header rights itself on the nex
page

This is far from ideal. Now when I add information to the split u
tables on any given page it spills over to the next page and I'm stuc
with reformatting all over again. And splitting the table on th
first page messes up my column headings with overlaid text. (
haven't yet investigated why.) It would be nice if Word wer
intelligent enough to handle headers in a multi-page continuous table

But I figured I'd post this bit of information. Everything I foun
online (including in this forum) suggested checking that vertica
alignment, in page setup of the header, was set to top and no
center. That wasn't relevant to my problem. Check your tables

-
Todd Walton

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Header Way Too Large! Table Problem.
I have had an interesting problem with headers and tables in a Wor
2003 document. This is the problem, and a workaround fix

In a ~100 page document, there's a long section of table. I want t
put headers into this document and so I View -> Headers and Footers
When I do this I see that the header is taking up 3/4 of the page
The header is way too big, and extends down all the way to th
footer. After much wrangling and teeth-gnashing I figured out that i
was the table

The table is one long continuous thing extending over multiple pages
I guess the header doesn't see it as content if it's just continue
from the previous page, and so the header goes all the way down. Whe
I put my cursor on the last row of the table on any given page, an
then select Table -> Split Table, the header rights itself on the nex
page

This is far from ideal. Now when I add information to the split u
tables on any given page it spills over to the next page and I'm stuc
with reformatting all over again. And splitting the table on th
first page messes up my column headings with overlaid text. (
haven't yet investigated why.) It would be nice if Word wer
intelligent enough to handle headers in a multi-page continuous table

But I figured I'd post this bit of information. Everything I foun
online (including in this forum) suggested checking that vertica
alignment, in page setup of the header, was set to top and no
center. That wasn't relevant to my problem. Check your tables

-
Todd Walton

I've never had this problem caused by a table (and I have 84-page
I've never had this problem caused by a table (and I have 84-page documen
consisting entirely of a 3,603-row table), but if your table has only
single row, that could be an issue. If that's the case, it wouldn't b
necessary to actually split the table, just divide the content into mor
rows

--
Suzanne S. Barnhil
Microsoft MVP (Word
Words into Typ
Fairhope, Alabama US
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.or
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.


Re: Header Way Too Large! Table Problem.
For what it is worth, I was unable to replicate the problem. it is only
in this one document.

-todd

If the problem occurs in a single document, then the document is likelycorrupt.
If the problem occurs in a single document, then the document is likely
corrupt. If you have a version that permits it, click the arrow beside Open
and choose Open and Repair. If you don't have that option, then see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm for other repair
techniques.



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Stefan Blom

Indeed, there are side-effects when a wrapped table continues across a page break. Note that in some versions wrapped tables are limited to a single page (if you let the table expand, it will disappear into the bottom edge of the page).
 
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Betty McDonagh

FYI...I recently came across this problem also,and after a few hours of messing with it, found that if I went to Table properties under the TABLE tab and selected None under Text wrapping, the header returned to the top of the page. Better late than never! Thanks



Todd Walton wrote:

Header Way Too Large! Table Problem.
29-Jun-07

I have had an interesting problem with headers and tables in a Word
2003 document. This is the problem, and a workaround fix.

In a ~100 page document, there's a long section of table. I want to
put headers into this document and so I View -> Headers and Footers.
When I do this I see that the header is taking up 3/4 of the page!
The header is way too big, and extends down all the way to the
footer. After much wrangling and teeth-gnashing I figured out that it
was the table.

The table is one long continuous thing extending over multiple pages.
I guess the header doesn't see it as content if it's just continued
from the previous page, and so the header goes all the way down. When
I put my cursor on the last row of the table on any given page, and
then select Table -> Split Table, the header rights itself on the next
page.

This is far from ideal. Now when I add information to the split up
tables on any given page it spills over to the next page and I'm stuck
with reformatting all over again. And splitting the table on the
first page messes up my column headings with overlaid text. (I
haven't yet investigated why.) It would be nice if Word were
intelligent enough to handle headers in a multi-page continuous table.

But I figured I'd post this bit of information. Everything I found
online (including in this forum) suggested checking that vertical
alignment, in page setup of the header, was set to top and not
center. That wasn't relevant to my problem. Check your tables!

--
Todd Walton

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Header Way Too Large! Table Problem.
I have had an interesting problem with headers and tables in a Word
2003 document. This is the problem, and a workaround fix.

In a ~100 page document, there's a long section of table. I want to
put headers into this document and so I View -> Headers and Footers.
When I do this I see that the header is taking up 3/4 of the page!
The header is way too big, and extends down all the way to the
footer. After much wrangling and teeth-gnashing I figured out that it
was the table.

The table is one long continuous thing extending over multiple pages.
I guess the header doesn't see it as content if it's just continued
from the previous page, and so the header goes all the way down. When
I put my cursor on the last row of the table on any given page, and
then select Table -> Split Table, the header rights itself on the next
page.

This is far from ideal. Now when I add information to the split up
tables on any given page it spills over to the next page and I'm stuck
with reformatting all over again. And splitting the table on the
first page messes up my column headings with overlaid text. (I
haven't yet investigated why.) It would be nice if Word were
intelligent enough to handle headers in a multi-page continuous table.

But I figured I'd post this bit of information. Everything I found
online (including in this forum) suggested checking that vertical
alignment, in page setup of the header, was set to top and not
center. That wasn't relevant to my problem. Check your tables!

--
Todd Walton

I've never had this problem caused by a table (and I have 84-page
I've never had this problem caused by a table (and I have 84-page document
consisting entirely of a 3,603-row table), but if your table has only a
single row, that could be an issue. If that's the case, it wouldn't be
necessary to actually split the table, just divide the content into more
rows.




Re: Header Way Too Large! Table Problem.
For what it is worth, I was unable to replicate the problem. it is only
in this one document.

-todd

If the problem occurs in a single document, then the document is likelycorrupt.
If the problem occurs in a single document, then the document is likely
corrupt. If you have a version that permits it, click the arrow beside Open
and choose Open and Repair. If you don't have that option, then see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm for other repair
techniques.



document

Header way too large. Table Problem
FYI....I just came across this same problem in a document that was sent to me for editing. After a few hours of messing with it, I found that if you go to Table Properties, and under the TABLE tab, select Text Wrapping-None, the header goes back to the top of the page. Better late than never!! Thanks

Indeed, there are side-effects when a wrapped table continues across a page
Indeed, there are side-effects when a wrapped table continues across a page break. Note that in some versions wrapped tables are limited to a single page (if you let the table expand, it will disappear into the bottom edge of the page).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


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Stefan Blom

Note that you have already posted a similar reply in the "Header way too large. Table Problem" thread, also in this newsgroup.
 
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Scott

Thank you so much. I was having this problem with create reports and templates. I need the whole page to become one table, and the header and footers always got in the way. (I use the headers and footers for images, because I need to be able to keep them out of the table themselves)

Summary: All I had to do was go to table properties - select 'none' in text wrapping.
 
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Scott

Thank you so much. I was having this problem with create reports and templates. I need the whole page to become one table, and the header and footers always got in the way. (I use the headers and footers for images, because I need to be able to keep them out of the table themselves)

Summary: All I had to do was go to table properties - select 'none' in text wrapping.
 
S

Scott

Thank you so much. I was having this problem with create reports and templates. I need the whole page to become one table, and the header and footers always got in the way. (I use the headers and footers for images, because I need to be able to keep them out of the table themselves)

Summary: All I had to do was go to table properties - select 'none' in text wrapping.
 
S

Scott

Thank you so much.

I was having this problem with creating reports and templates for a month. I need the whole page to become one table, and the header and footers always got in the way. I still need the headers and footers for images, because I need to be able to keep them out of the table themselves.

Summary: All I had to do was go to table properties - select 'none' in text wrapping.
 
S

Scott

Thank you so much.

I was having this problem with creating reports and templates for a month. It was consistent, and not a corrupted word document. I need the whole page to become one table, and the header and footers always got in the way. I still need the headers and footers for images, because I need to be able to keep them out of the table themselves.

Summary: All I had to do was go to table properties - select 'none' in text wrapping.
 

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