help with a page

[Larry]

we have a page that we need to edit, that was done by an outside
designer-meaning we don't have the original PSD's or whatever the images
were done with.
the problem is the way the table on this page is set up (I think). whenever
an image is added, it upsets the entire design of the page.
http://birminghamchamber.com/chamber/chamber.htm

if anyone has any ideas, let me know!
thanks in advance,
larry

 

[Jim Cheshire]

Larry,

This page needs some serious image optimization. I'm on a T3 and it took it
about 8 seconds to load. I show 65 images loading and they are loading VERY
slowly.

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[Jim Cheshire]

ESPN takes 3 seconds to load for me. Yours takes 12 seconds. I would
seriously look into that even though it's currently not your concern.

Concerning your table issue, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. You need
to be very specific so that we'll know how to help.

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Jim Cheshire
Jimco Add-ins
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http://www.jimcoaddins.com
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Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003

 

[Very Joyful \(Victoria\)]

Like the others, I'm not sure what problem you are seeing. However, I must
point out that your menus are all made of images and there is no text. There
is not even any alt-text for your images. This is not the way to do it. As
others have mentioned, it's slow, but also you need to know that it will
hurt you in the great search engine game... there's nothing for SEs to
crawl. Also (and this might not concern you), it hurts your accessibility
when it comes to alternative browsers. It also makes it more time consuming
to update. You need to dump those images and use text.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Actually the whole page is only 75 KB (54 KB of images)
But it is a case of Poorly designed table layout
- done from an image dicer and not optimized
- should be nested tables
- missing sizing of cells
- too many unneeded cells

And very bad use of image preload script
- in the wrong place
- w/ preload images sized (building an unnecessary large array)




| ESPN takes 3 seconds to load for me. Yours takes 12 seconds. I would
| seriously look into that even though it's currently not your concern.
|
| Concerning your table issue, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. You need
| to be very specific so that we'll know how to help.
|
| --
| Jim Cheshire
| Jimco Add-ins
| Add-ins for FrontPage 2000-2003
| http://www.jimcoaddins.com
| ===============================
| Co-author of Special Edition
| Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
|
|
| | >
| > > Larry,
| > >
| > > This page needs some serious image optimization. I'm on a T3 and it
| took
| > it
| > > about 8 seconds to load. I show 65 images loading and they are loading
| > VERY
| > > slowly.
| >
| > heh. have you been to espn.com lately?
| >
| > seriously though, it's the table sizing I am concerned about!
| > larry
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Jim Cheshire]

Well I agree to that this morning. Interestingly enough, it loads
significantly faster today than it did yesterday.

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Jim Cheshire
Jimco Add-ins
Add-ins for FrontPage 2000-2003
http://www.jimcoaddins.com
===============================
Co-author of Special Edition
Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003

 

[Larry]

Actually the whole page is only 75 KB (54 KB of images)
But it is a case of Poorly designed table layout
- done from an image dicer and not optimized
- should be nested tables
- missing sizing of cells
- too many unneeded cells

is there any way I can fix the table? the problem I am having is that the
top "banner" falls apart whenever I try to adjust the cells.
Larry

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You will need to create a new table.

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[Very Joyful]

You really need to start from scratch with this. The method used to create
it is just plain wrong.