Hiding background

[Elly]

I have some printer friendly pages on my website, can I use
the "hiding bacground on one page" command, or does it only
hide the background in Publisher, but not on the web?

Elly

 

[David Bartosik MS MVP]

That'd be for print publications, not web publications.

 

[analog]

Doesn't winbloz default to not printing webpage backgrounds? Every version I
can remember will not print web backgrounds unless the settings are changed, and
that change is buried pretty deep such that most don't even know where it is.

The main thing is not to have a bunch of graphics on a page you want folks to be
able to easily (or cheaply) print. You can always have a text only version
linked as "printer friendly version of this page".

 

[Guest]

That is exactly as I have done, but because of the basic
organisation of the site and it therefore being uploaded in
one the menu in the background is in the way on those pages.

 

[analog]

OK, you can do the trick David suggests, and which we use on our website.
Create a second set of documents with Publisher, and in that set have no
background at all. You then uplaod those pages as a "subdomain" so to speak.

Look at www.logwell.com and you will see that each area with a menu is actually
its own little subdirectory. Each of those (there are dozens) is a separate
publisher file with its own background. All pages follow the same basic style
sheet, but it gives the site some diversity to have backgrounds tailored to the
particular subject matter (it also violates basic web design principles where
you are supposed to use only one background, but hey, I do the site for fun).

Anyway, that trick is one of the many tricks Publisher users employ to make
Publisher do more than the basic design allows. I often refer to the use of
these these kinds of tricks or work-arounds as "beating a program into
submission".

 

[Elly]

Thanks for that. It looks I have to come out of my comfort
zone - it sounds a really useful suggestion, similar to
what was suggested when I attempted to use Dreamweaver. How
do I create those subdomeins on the web, can I create
folders on the site as I would in any other application?

-----Original Message-----
OK, you can do the trick David suggests, and which we use on our website.
Create a second set of documents with Publisher, and in that set have no
background at all. You then uplaod those pages as a "subdomain" so to speak.

Look at www.logwell.com and you will see that each area with a menu is actually
its own little subdirectory. Each of those (there are dozens) is a separate
publisher file with its own background. All pages follow the same basic style
sheet, but it gives the site some diversity to have backgrounds tailored to the
particular subject matter (it also violates basic web design principles where
you are supposed to use only one background, but hey, I do the site for fun).

Anyway, that trick is one of the many tricks Publisher users employ to make
Publisher do more than the basic design allows. I often refer to the use of
these these kinds of tricks or work-arounds as "beating a program into
submission".

 

[David Bartosik - MS MVP]

Sub-domains and folders are two different things.
A sub-domain creates just that, it looks like this ....
http://mysub.mydomainname.com

Whereas a folder is simply a folder -
http://www.mydomainname.com/index-filesoranyfolderforthatmatter/

The prior is not supported by all hosts and is not needed for your context.
It typically has to be implemented by the host or at least thru a host
control panel.

The latter is no different than creating a folder on your own pc. Indeed
folders can help structure and organize a larger site.

In your context if you want to remove "print" pages from the 'main' site I'd
recommend creating a 2nd publisher file as the "print" site. You simply have
to be sure you don't save it as index otherwise it will become the main
site.

--
David Bartosik - MS MVP
www.publishermvps.com

Thanks for that. It looks I have to come out of my comfort
zone - it sounds a really useful suggestion, similar to
what was suggested when I attempted to use Dreamweaver. How
do I create those subdomeins on the web, can I create
folders on the site as I would in any other application?

 

[analog]

Sorry, I misspoke in referring to that simple file trick as a "sub-domain". It
sort of has the same effect. Here is an example:
http://www.logwell.com/PBS/index.html
This is like a separate little website (so to speak) residing within
www.logwell.com.
Here is another one:
http://www.logwell.com/tales/menu/index.html

As David pointed out, just create a different publisher file with the material
you want to appear with a different (or no) background. If you use an ftp
client to upload you web files, you can create any manner of cascading file
structures.

By way of additional example, check out this link on vintage oscilloscopes:
http://www.logwell.com/tech/oscilloscopes/vintage_oscilloscopes.html
Notice the page is several file layers down. Many web design critics do not
like this practice, but for arcane or dense content driven sites it works pretty
well.

 

[Elly]

Thank you both very much. I have no FTP programme, the only
way I have been able to transfer files is by drag and drop.
I could never understand the instructions in Publisher for
uploading, at least not when I first started.

 

[analog]

There are a number of freebie ftp client programs available. Some use a drag
and drop style user interface. All allow the easy creation and deletion of
folders on the server. They sure make management of a site a breeze. I
personally use WS_FTP Pro, but I have used a few others over the years.