how can i cc myself on emails?

[Sandra]

When I cc myself on emails, it doesn't send me an email. I'd really
appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Why do you need to CC yourself? If you keep a copy in sent items, it is the same thing.

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After furious head scratching, Sandra asked:

| When I cc myself on emails, it doesn't send me an email. I'd really
| appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!

 

[VanguardLH]

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When I cc myself on emails, it doesn't send me an email. I'd really
appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!

Then you have a server- or client-side filter that is blocking reciept
of e-mails sent from yourself to yourself.

 

[Gordon]

Why do you need to CC yourself? If you keep a copy in sent items, it is
the same thing.

;-)

 

[VanguardLH]

;-)

Some folks want to know that their SMTP mail host actually sent out the
e-mail, not just that it accepted it. They also want to know when their
e-mail got sent out from their SMTP host, not when their SMTP mail host
accepted it. It is something akin to delivery confirmation when snail
mailing: you don't just get the receipt showing you gave the package to
the postal worker behind the counter but you also get proof that it left
their building and when.

Yeah, it makes for duplicate copies of messages: one in the Sent Items
folder and another that later shows up in their Inbox (which they can
use rules to move to a "Confirmed Sent Items" folder with perhaps
auto-archiving to delete them after N days old). I only do this
confirmed send testing when there are suspicions that my e-mail provider
is delaying or batching up outbound e-mails or some delivery problems
are happening, like the recipient claiming they didn't receive my e-mail
and I want some proof that it actually got sent out from my provider's
SMTP mail host. I don't do it all the time, only when I need to test
delivery. Of course, it doesn't matter if my own e-mail address is in
the To, Cc, or Bcc header to do that testing (and I'd probably use the
Bcc header so the recipient doesn't get concerned why I'm sending myself
my own e-mails).

 

[ANONYMOUS]

It looks like your smtp is configured properly to send out outgoing
emails. May I suggest that you try to either cc or bcc yourself to your
free web based email account to confirm that your mails are indeed going
out.

I too like to bcc myself whenever I send out any emails but I always use
YAHOO or HOTMAIL account for such copies just to confirm that emails are
going out and that there are no problems at my end or at my ISP!

hth

 

[Gordon]

Some folks want to know that their SMTP mail host actually sent out the
e-mail, not just that it accepted it. They also want to know when their
e-mail got sent out from their SMTP host, not when their SMTP mail host
accepted it. It is something akin to delivery confirmation when snail
mailing: you don't just get the receipt showing you gave the package to
the postal worker behind the counter but you also get proof that it left
their building and when.

Yeah, it makes for duplicate copies of messages: one in the Sent Items
folder and another that later shows up in their Inbox (which they can
use rules to move to a "Confirmed Sent Items" folder with perhaps
auto-archiving to delete them after N days old). I only do this
confirmed send testing when there are suspicions that my e-mail provider
is delaying or batching up outbound e-mails or some delivery problems
are happening, like the recipient claiming they didn't receive my e-mail
and I want some proof that it actually got sent out from my provider's
SMTP mail host. I don't do it all the time, only when I need to test
delivery. Of course, it doesn't matter if my own e-mail address is in
the To, Cc, or Bcc header to do that testing (and I'd probably use the
Bcc header so the recipient doesn't get concerned why I'm sending myself
my own e-mails).

Umm if the mail appears in the Sent Items folder, I know of NO circumstances
where the ISPs smpt server has NOT received it....and that's in at LEAST 20
years of using email....

 

[Gordon]

It looks like your smtp is configured properly to send out outgoing
emails. May I suggest that you try to either cc or bcc yourself to your
free web based email account to confirm that your mails are indeed going
out.

I too like to bcc myself whenever I send out any emails but I always use
YAHOO or HOTMAIL account for such copies just to confirm that emails are
going out and that there are no problems at my end or at my ISP!

In TWENTY years of using email I have NEVER needed to do that - what a waste
of time and bandwidth!

 

[ANONYMOUS]

Umm if the mail appears in the Sent Items folder, I know of NO
circumstances where the ISPs smpt server has NOT received it....and
that's in at LEAST 20 years of using email....

But this does not mean that they have actually processed it and sent out
to its destination. I know of many cases where ISP failed to send out
emails because they had problems processing them due to lots of incoming
spam emails on their systems or simply hackers have taken over their
systems. For example, comcast was recently taken over by hackers for
several hours. Read all about it here:

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080529/D90VDKS01.html

Now if comcast can't keep themselves safe then what chance has smaller
ISPs have?

 

[Gordon]

But this does not mean that they have actually processed it and sent out
to its destination. I know of many cases where ISP failed to send out
emails because they had problems processing them due to lots of incoming
spam emails on their systems or simply hackers have taken over their
systems. For example, comcast was recently taken over by hackers for
several hours. Read all about it here:

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080529/D90VDKS01.html

Now if comcast can't keep themselves safe then what chance has smaller
ISPs have?

I've seen so few instances of that also in the last twenty years as to be
almost zero.....

 

[ANONYMOUS]

No it is not waste of time and bandwidth. You deleted the link I
provided in which it was stated that COMCAST was hacked recently. Now
this can't be a waste of time or bandwidth. How long does it take to
insert a cc or bcc. This should be automatic for you since you were the
first person to use emails in 1988. We didn't have emails in 1988 and I
am not somewhere in Timbuktu!!

 

[ANONYMOUS]

I've seen so few instances of that also in the last twenty years as to
be almost zero.....

Well in that case you are the special one who faces no problems
whatsoever. I wonder if you have experienced the "complete life".
People get this thru difficulties and mistakes in life!

 

[VanguardLH]

Umm if the mail appears in the Sent Items folder, I know of NO circumstances
where the ISPs smpt server has NOT received it....and that's in at LEAST 20
years of using email....

I believe that I made a clear distinction between your SMTP mail host
*receiving* your e-mail and your SMTP mail host actually *sending* it.

 

[VanguardLH]

In TWENTY years of using email I have NEVER needed to do that - what a waste
of time and bandwidth!

Must be some damn huge e-mails that you send that consume all that
wasted bandwidth (which should never have been sent and instead a URL to
your file used in your e-mail). Do you always send in plain-text, too,
to ensure you aren't doubling that 2KB mail to all of 4KB by including a
duplicate HTML MIME part?

 

[Gordon]

Must be some damn huge e-mails that you send that consume all that
wasted bandwidth (which should never have been sent and instead a URL to
your file used in your e-mail). Do you always send in plain-text, too,
to ensure you aren't doubling that 2KB mail to all of 4KB by including a
duplicate HTML MIME part?

Sorry mate - technology has advanced so much since carbon paper that the
instances of emails failing to be sent from your ISP's smtp server are
almost NIL......

 

[Gordon]

Well in that case you are the special one who faces no problems
whatsoever. I wonder if you have experienced the "complete life". People
get this thru difficulties and mistakes in life!

Ummm certainly do experience "life" as you put it - I've had umm lets
see......at least TEN different ISPs in the last twenty years and have NEVER
(or almost never) experienced emails that reach my smtp server and then
don't get sent....

 

[VanguardLH]

Sorry mate - technology has advanced so much since carbon paper that the
instances of emails failing to be sent from your ISP's smtp server are
almost NIL......

You haven't monitored many of your e-mails. I've hit several e-mail
providers that batch up their outbound e-mails. I don't need to ask the
recipients to attach my e-mails and send them back to me to look at the
headers of my e-mail to see when they got sent out because I have my own
copy to look at. For example, and about a year ago, I found
Bluebottle.com was batching up their e-mails and sending them out at
1-hour intervals. I wouldn't know that unless I actually checked but to
check means that *I* need a copy of what got sent out by their SMTP mail
host.

Users of Hotmail have repeatedly reported not receiving e-mails. It had
nothing to do with spam filtering. It had nothing to do with
blacklisting by Hotmail. Hotmail would accept the e-mail from the
sending mail host and it would vaporize. The sender never got an NDR
and the recipient never got the message. By your method, the users only
know what happened on the client-side of their SMTP server. By actually
getting a copy of the e-mail, you would know that your SMTP server had
sent it and that it vaporized on Hotmail's end.

I'm sure there are e-mail users that have never had to bother looking at
the troubleshooting logfile for their e-mail client, too. Not because
e-mail worked perfectly but because it was something they didn't know
about or the logfile was beyond their ability to understand. The
functionality was they but they chose not to use it. Verifying your
SMTP mail host's operation to test if it is actually sending out an
e-mail when you are having problems is just another troubleshooting
method. Also, from two realestate lawyers that I spoke with in the
past, they were required to prove their e-mails got sent by their e-mail
provider instead of just hoping blindly that it happened. Some user
need more proof than do you. I only need the proof of a send when I'm
troubleshooting a problem.

 

[Bons]

Have you tried just putting you in the "To"? I've never tried the cc....but
send to myself in the "To" all the time and that works...would this work for
what you're trying to accomplish?

 

[Brian Tillman]

Ummm certainly do experience "life" as you put it - I've had umm lets
see......at least TEN different ISPs in the last twenty years and
have NEVER (or almost never) experienced emails that reach my smtp
server and then don't get sent....

Nonetheless, it's a common enough event.

 

[Gordon]

Nonetheless, it's a common enough event.

I must have been very lucky then ;-)