How do I convert hover buttons to regular buttons?

[Roveer]

I'm trying to de-javascript a website since many computers dont' get
java installed and we've had reports of broken button links from some
of our visitors. Unfortunately our previous webmaster designed the
site with over 100 hover buttons. The main navigation menu system was
hover buttons but I was able to turn that off in the Styles. It now
displays correctly on "non java" computers. Now I've got 80 buttons
that are just basically simple hyperlinks that are hover buttons. I
know I can just insert a regular button, but the canned buttons that
come with FP 2003 are not in the style of our buttons.

Is there a way to use the buttons from the "horizontal navigation"
from my style? Those are exactly what I want. I can't seem to figure
out how to insert that kind of button. I also need to put a label
inside the button. I originally tried copying the "style" button and
then inserting it as a picture and putting a hyperlink to it. It
works but then I have no easy way to label it unless I put it into a
graphics editor and put the label in manually. This would be very
hard to do since I have 80 of them.

Any help would be appreciated.

Roveer

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

First Java and JavaScript are two different technologies.

FP2003 doesn't use Java for navigation. JavaScript is what is being used and is supported by default
in all current PC based browsers.

If you provide a link to your site and indicate any specific pages with link that users are having a
problem with, some one make be able to help you solve the problem.

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[Roveer]

I'd rather not post the website link in a newsgroup

Here's an example of what I'm dealing with:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j196/roveer/webexample.jpg

Those buttons that you see are presently "hover buttons" and don't
display correctly (actually don't display at all) on PC's that don't
have a JVM installed. If I'm not mistaken that's every PC that has XP
& Vista that is sold retail? That's a lot of PC's.

What I'd like to do is to continue to use the exact same button look
(colors & dimensions) but just make them interactive buttons instead.
I'm not concerned about hover color changes or click color changes
although I see IB's can do that. Problem is, from what I can see IB's
only give you what FP's makes available (about 20 or 30 different
buttons none of which matches my color. Is there a way to customize
an interactive button to use my colors? Or, I'm looking at just
inserting a picture of my button and making a hyperlink. Problem is I
have no good way to put the label in the button. Trying to use MS
paint gives me a low quality button. I'm sure this is all easy
enought, but I'm not very experienced with FP so I'm having trouble
figuring it out.

Seems kind of strange that MS makes use of JS with hover buttons but
then does not support it in their OS. Am I wrong here?

Roveer

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Due to a lawsuit a few years ago, MS can no longer provide java. Old news.
You might want to do some Googling on it.

Some computers now ship with Sun Java installed. However, many users don't
use it, because it's deemed by many as a security risk.
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: Seems kind of strange that MS makes use of JS with hover buttons but
: then does not support it in their OS. Am I wrong here?
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: Roveer

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

At no time has MS ever use the Java Hover Button applet to create a slideshow, etc.

Which version of FP did you use to create this slideshow?

Can you email me the link via my site below?

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[Roveer]

At no time has MS ever use the Java Hover Button applet to create a slideshow, etc.

Which version of FP did you use to create this slideshow?

Can you email me the link via my site below?

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Not sure where you got the idea that there was a slideshow. Those
buttons just link to pages which contain other pictures. This is
really basic navigation stuff. My point is, FP has put hover buttons
as a feature in their software. Insert, Hover Button. Isn't this
javascript? So they made a feature available in FP that would draw FP
designers to use (cause it's kinda cool), BUT their OS doesn't support
it.

Not sure about the lawsuit, but from what I've read over the years MS
wanted to crush java and went about doing that by NOT making it a
standard feature in their OS.

In any event, any ideas on how I can make a custom "Interactive
Button" that looks just like the ones in my picture?

Roveer

 

[Steve Easton]

At no time has MS ever use the Java Hover Button applet to create a slideshow, etc.

Which version of FP did you use to create this slideshow?

Can you email me the link via my site below?

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Microsoft MVP - FrontPagehttp://www.Ecom-Data.com
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Not sure where you got the idea that there was a slideshow. Those
buttons just link to pages which contain other pictures. This is
really basic navigation stuff. My point is, FP has put hover buttons
as a feature in their software. Insert, Hover Button. Isn't this
javascript?

No it's not javascript it's java, also known as Java Virtual Machine.

So they made a feature available in FP that would draw FP
designers to use (cause it's kinda cool), BUT their OS doesn't support
it.

Hover buttons were available in FP 2002 and earlier. they are not available in FP 2003

Not sure about the lawsuit, but from what I've read over the years MS
wanted to crush java and went about doing that by NOT making it a
standard feature in their OS.

Not true, they lost a lawsuit and were forced to remove java.

In any event, any ideas on how I can make a custom "Interactive
Button" that looks just like the ones in my picture?

If you want the exact thing, take screenshots and edit them with an image editor
and cut out the buttons and save them as jpg files.
Then use javascript to swap the images when hovered or clicked.

 

[Roveer]

Not sure where you got the idea that there was a slideshow.  Those
buttons just link to pages which contain other pictures.  This is
really basic navigation stuff.  My point is, FP has put hover buttons
as a feature in their software.  Insert, Hover Button.  Isn't this
javascript?

No it's not javascript it's java, also known as Java Virtual Machine.

 So they made a feature available in FP that would draw FP
designers to use (cause it's kinda cool), BUT their OS doesn't support
it.

Hover buttons were available in FP 2002 and earlier. they are not available in FP 2003

Not sure about the lawsuit, but from what I've read over the years MS
wanted to crush java and went about doing that by NOT making it a
standard feature in their OS.

Not true, they lost a lawsuit and were forced to remove java.

In any event, any ideas on how I can make a custom "Interactive
Button" that looks just like the ones in my picture?

If you want the exact thing, take screenshots and edit them with an imageeditor
and cut out the buttons and save them as jpg files.
Then use javascript to swap the images when hovered or clicked.- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks for cleaing up the MS Java issues. Indeed HB's are no longer
in FP.

I had already tried what you suggested with the screenshots on the
buttons, but I get a somewhat less attractive button. (the quality
goes down).

I've got GIF files of the buttons but I'm having a hard time getting
labels into them without making a mess of them. Using MS Paint the
button is too small and trying to put text in is very difficult. I
guess I'll keep trying. If anyone can suggest an alternate graphics
editor that might make things a little easier that would be great.
Problem is, I've got over 80 buttons to do. Kinda sucks.

Roveer

 

[Roveer]

Thanks for cleaing up the MS Java issues.  Indeed HB's are no longer
in FP.

I had already tried what you suggested with the screenshots on the
buttons, but I get a somewhat less attractive button. (the quality
goes down).

I've got GIF files of the buttons but I'm having a hard time getting
labels into them without making a mess of them.  Using MS Paint the
button is too small and trying to put text in is very difficult.  I
guess I'll keep trying.  If anyone can suggest an alternate graphics
editor that might make things a little easier that would be great.
Problem is, I've got over 80 buttons to do.  Kinda sucks.

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Never mind, I was able to get a good button from MS Paint. Not
looking forward to 80 more buttons though...