How do I find and re-name Normal.dot

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six-h via OfficeKB.com

On the 4th of August 2006, I had the answer to this problem from this forum.
Unfortunately, the posting seems to have been deleted!

Symptom: -
I had two bitmap signatures (formal, and informal) stored, and accessed via
"Insert" > Auto Text > Normal and then choose formal or informal.
All the options under the Auto Text sub-menus are now gone, leaving only a
small greyed out box against any of the options.

Solution provided by this Forum: -
To find all instances of Normal.dot, and re-name them "OldNormal.dot"
Then re open word, a new perfect template is generated, and all is well!

Problem: -
I've forgotten how to find all instances of Normal.dot
Can someone help me with "Idiot proof instructions"?
Please!
 
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six-h via OfficeKB.com

JoAnn said:
You should only have one normal.dot. Have you tried using Windows Explorer?
On the 4th of August 2006, I had the answer to this problem from this
forum.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
Can someone help me with "Idiot proof instructions"?
Please!


Thanks for that JoAnn,



I've spent the last 45 minutes trawling through my old postings.
Then re-tracing my steps.
I ultimately struck gold: -

"Windows Knowledgebase kb : 291484"

Thank the Lord for the capacious archives of PC Advisor Forums!

If this is helpful to anyone else, I'm pleased!

Job done

six-h
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Don't forget that you can use Google Groups to search for older posts in the
Microsoft newsgroups. I've been doing that a bit lately myself. I'm trying
to learn Access and have questions that I know had to have been asked
before. ;-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



six-h via OfficeKB.com said:
JoAnn said:
You should only have one normal.dot. Have you tried using Windows
Explorer?
On the 4th of August 2006, I had the answer to this problem from this
forum.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
Can someone help me with "Idiot proof instructions"?
Please!


Thanks for that JoAnn,



I've spent the last 45 minutes trawling through my old postings.
Then re-tracing my steps.
I ultimately struck gold: -

"Windows Knowledgebase kb : 291484"

Thank the Lord for the capacious archives of PC Advisor Forums!

If this is helpful to anyone else, I'm pleased!

Job done

six-h
 
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six-h via OfficeKB.com

Bless you Suzanne, for such a lucid and jargon free article.

Hope you don't mind that I've copied and pasted it for future use, and in the
event that I can help someone else maybe in the future!
Yours was the article that I originally rescued my ailing template with, and
couldn't find!
I have now committed this site to "favorites" and will explore it in depth
later.
I'm afraid I find the Microsoft "Help" and "Knowledge-base" sites totally
unhelpful, and tend to loose the will to live, as I attempt to wade through
them!
It's so refreshing to find articles such as yours.
Well done and thank you!

Geoff Vost.

Instructions for locating at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/BlankDocNotBlank.htm
On the 4th of August 2006, I had the answer to this problem from this
forum.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
Can someone help me with "Idiot proof instructions"?
Please!
 
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six-h via OfficeKB.com

Thanks JoAnn,
That's a useful tip, and I'll try to remember it for future!
By the way, I'm using "Word2002", and noticed when fixing this problem the
other day, that on both occasions that I have needed to do so, there were two
instances of the Global template in existence at the same time.
I've now got two"Normalold.dot's" and two "oldNormal.dot's" I think maybe now
it's safe to delete one set, at least!

Regards.
Geoff Vost.

JoAnn said:
Don't forget that you can use Google Groups to search for older posts in the
Microsoft newsgroups. I've been doing that a bit lately myself. I'm trying
to learn Access and have questions that I know had to have been asked
before. ;-)
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Thanks, Geoff. I'm glad you found it helpful. Although Dave Rado (our
previous Webmaster) is not listed as a co-author on this article, as usual
he provided a lot of helpful tech editing (since I wasn't using Windows XP
at the time), as well as the screen shots, not to mention all the technical
stuff about macros (about which I'm deeply ignorant).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

six-h via OfficeKB.com said:
Bless you Suzanne, for such a lucid and jargon free article.

Hope you don't mind that I've copied and pasted it for future use, and in
the
event that I can help someone else maybe in the future!
Yours was the article that I originally rescued my ailing template with,
and
couldn't find!
I have now committed this site to "favorites" and will explore it in depth
later.
I'm afraid I find the Microsoft "Help" and "Knowledge-base" sites totally
unhelpful, and tend to loose the will to live, as I attempt to wade
through
them!
It's so refreshing to find articles such as yours.
Well done and thank you!

Geoff Vost.

Instructions for locating at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/BlankDocNotBlank.htm
On the 4th of August 2006, I had the answer to this problem from this
forum.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
Can someone help me with "Idiot proof instructions"?
Please!
 
S

six-h via OfficeKB.com

Hi Suzanne,

You're very welcome, as is Dave!
As I said, it's easy on the eye, and on the brain!

I'm afraid mine is a bit of an academic wasteland!
I do appreciate and envy those who are able to help sort out the problems we
lesser mortals get ourselves into.

My biggest claim to fame in the computing world, is having passed a course
that no one has ever heard of!
The so called MOUS (Mouse) certificate.
It did give me good basic knowledge of Word, and I try to help others get
into computers now that I'm retired, by helping out at my local U3A computer
classes (University of the Third Age).
It's nice to see others grow in confidence as they learn to "tame the beast"!

I've recently been afflicted by a "Trojan", and have such admiration for the
people in the various malware fora who give so freely of their time and
expertise. If only I were clever enough, I would love to be able to do that!
In my book, a valued "thank you" when you've been helped, is a small price to
pay.

Regards,
Geoff Vost.



Thanks, Geoff. I'm glad you found it helpful. Although Dave Rado (our
previous Webmaster) is not listed as a co-author on this article, as usual
he provided a lot of helpful tech editing (since I wasn't using Windows XP
at the time), as well as the screen shots, not to mention all the technical
stuff about macros (about which I'm deeply ignorant).
Bless you Suzanne, for such a lucid and jargon free article.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I think most Word/Office MVPs are familiar with MOUS certification (and some
have it), but we got a bit confused when MS changed the name to (I think)
MOS, which was less recognizable.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

six-h via OfficeKB.com said:
Hi Suzanne,

You're very welcome, as is Dave!
As I said, it's easy on the eye, and on the brain!

I'm afraid mine is a bit of an academic wasteland!
I do appreciate and envy those who are able to help sort out the problems
we
lesser mortals get ourselves into.

My biggest claim to fame in the computing world, is having passed a course
that no one has ever heard of!
The so called MOUS (Mouse) certificate.
It did give me good basic knowledge of Word, and I try to help others get
into computers now that I'm retired, by helping out at my local U3A
computer
classes (University of the Third Age).
It's nice to see others grow in confidence as they learn to "tame the
beast"!

I've recently been afflicted by a "Trojan", and have such admiration for
the
people in the various malware fora who give so freely of their time and
expertise. If only I were clever enough, I would love to be able to do
that!
In my book, a valued "thank you" when you've been helped, is a small price
to
pay.

Regards,
Geoff Vost.



Thanks, Geoff. I'm glad you found it helpful. Although Dave Rado (our
previous Webmaster) is not listed as a co-author on this article, as usual
he provided a lot of helpful tech editing (since I wasn't using Windows XP
at the time), as well as the screen shots, not to mention all the
technical
stuff about macros (about which I'm deeply ignorant).
Bless you Suzanne, for such a lucid and jargon free article.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
Can someone help me with "Idiot proof instructions"?
Please!
 
S

six-h via OfficeKB.com

Heartening to know that I'm not the only one with a certificate. lol
It sank without trace here in the UK, even before the name change!!

Geoff.
I think most Word/Office MVPs are familiar with MOUS certification (and some
have it), but we got a bit confused when MS changed the name to (I think)
MOS, which was less recognizable.
Hi Suzanne,
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

The problem with any kind of certification is that it's only as good as its
name recognition. What good would an Oxford degree be if no one had ever
heard of Oxford University? This was also the situation with the MVP
designation when I started. By dint of immense effort, MS has made the award
more visible within MS and, to some extent, in the tech industry, but for
the man on the street, it means nothing, which means that for me the
designation itself has no (or little) value outside these NGs (since my
business is not tech-related).

When I teach free Word courses at the public library, I can tell people I'm
a Microsoft MVP and try to explain what that means, but it is much less
impressive to them than what I can teach them about how to use Word. And
that's as it should be: no piece of paper (actual or notional) should take
the place of proven competence. If the cert can get you in the door, that's
good, but it's what you accomplish after you're there that will look good on
your résumé thereafter.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

six-h via OfficeKB.com said:
Heartening to know that I'm not the only one with a certificate. lol
It sank without trace here in the UK, even before the name change!!

Geoff.
I think most Word/Office MVPs are familiar with MOUS certification (and
some
have it), but we got a bit confused when MS changed the name to (I think)
MOS, which was less recognizable.
Hi Suzanne,
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
Can someone help me with "Idiot proof instructions"?
Please!
 
S

six-h via OfficeKB.com

Must agree with you there,
The paper is a valuable "key" which gives the person the chance to shine!
I must admit, I have only become aware of the MVP status over the last 3
years or so.
I don't know how well recognised it is (or valued) by the commercial world,
since I'm no longer a paid up member!!!

Geoff.
The problem with any kind of certification is that it's only as good as its
name recognition. What good would an Oxford degree be if no one had ever
heard of Oxford University? This was also the situation with the MVP
designation when I started. By dint of immense effort, MS has made the award
more visible within MS and, to some extent, in the tech industry, but for
the man on the street, it means nothing, which means that for me the
designation itself has no (or little) value outside these NGs (since my
business is not tech-related).

When I teach free Word courses at the public library, I can tell people I'm
a Microsoft MVP and try to explain what that means, but it is much less
impressive to them than what I can teach them about how to use Word. And
that's as it should be: no piece of paper (actual or notional) should take
the place of proven competence. If the cert can get you in the door, that's
good, but it's what you accomplish after you're there that will look good on
your résumé thereafter.
Heartening to know that I'm not the only one with a certificate. lol
It sank without trace here in the UK, even before the name change!!
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
 
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Terry Farrell

You should really rename them as normal.old or normal.bad because with a
..dot extension, Windows will still see them as a template. Then it doesn't
matter how many you create. But sure, delete the oldest.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

six-h via OfficeKB.com said:
Thanks JoAnn,
That's a useful tip, and I'll try to remember it for future!
By the way, I'm using "Word2002", and noticed when fixing this problem the
other day, that on both occasions that I have needed to do so, there were
two
instances of the Global template in existence at the same time.
I've now got two"Normalold.dot's" and two "oldNormal.dot's" I think maybe
now
it's safe to delete one set, at least!

Regards.
Geoff Vost.

JoAnn said:
Don't forget that you can use Google Groups to search for older posts in
the
Microsoft newsgroups. I've been doing that a bit lately myself. I'm trying
to learn Access and have questions that I know had to have been asked
before. ;-)
You should only have one normal.dot. Have you tried using Windows
Explorer?
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Agreed. The referenced article, I noticed, does suggest Normal.old or
Oldnormal.dot, but I think that just reflects my ignorance at the time I was
writing it.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Terry Farrell said:
You should really rename them as normal.old or normal.bad because with a
.dot extension, Windows will still see them as a template. Then it doesn't
matter how many you create. But sure, delete the oldest.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

six-h via OfficeKB.com said:
Thanks JoAnn,
That's a useful tip, and I'll try to remember it for future!
By the way, I'm using "Word2002", and noticed when fixing this problem
the
other day, that on both occasions that I have needed to do so, there were
two
instances of the Global template in existence at the same time.
I've now got two"Normalold.dot's" and two "oldNormal.dot's" I think maybe
now
it's safe to delete one set, at least!

Regards.
Geoff Vost.

JoAnn said:
Don't forget that you can use Google Groups to search for older posts in
the
Microsoft newsgroups. I've been doing that a bit lately myself. I'm
trying
to learn Access and have questions that I know had to have been asked
before. ;-)

You should only have one normal.dot. Have you tried using Windows
Explorer?
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]

six-h
 
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six-h via OfficeKB.com

Thanks for that Terry,

I knew I was doing it wrong, renaming the file rather than the type!
I'll find them again, and change/delet, as you suggest.

Geoff Vost.

Terry said:
You should really rename them as normal.old or normal.bad because with a
.dot extension, Windows will still see them as a template. Then it doesn't
matter how many you create. But sure, delete the oldest.
Thanks JoAnn,
That's a useful tip, and I'll try to remember it for future!
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
 
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Beth Melton

I'm convinced they changed the certification from MOUS to MOS in order to
get more money out of those who were already certified, or were certified
instructors, in order to use the new credentials. First I was a Microsoft
Authorized Instructor. Then $75 I became a MOUS Master Instructor. Then
$100, a MOS Master Instructor. (That's not including the tests for each
version.)

For Office 2007 the certification will fall under Microsoft Certified
Application Specialist (MCAS). They've also added another certification,
Microsoft Certified Application Professional (MCAP). The later is more
SharePoint focused.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/msbc/credentials/default.mspx

I'm still not sure what that's going to end up costing. <grin>

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
 

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