How do I get rid of frames?

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Steggles - Home Office

Help please......

I have a domain, www.steggles.com, but am struggling to get rid of 'frames'.
I have no idea what they are, but I do know that they are seriously messing
up the spidering on my site.

Can anyone help me to get rid of them?

I used Frontpage 2003 to design the site, using the personal website
template.

Thanks in advance,

Simon Steggles
 
R

Ronx

First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to be
the home page.

Ron
 
M

Murray

No.

Cut and paste, or recreate are your only two options.

--
Murray

Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

Doh!!!

Thanks anyway.

Simon
www.steggles.com
No.

Cut and paste, or recreate are your only two options.

--
Murray

Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to be
the home page.

Ron
 
R

Ronx

This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
R

Ronx

If you just take out the frames you will be left with a lot of pages with no
navigation, and no home page.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg, not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
M

Murray

What's the URI to the frameset?

--
Murray

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

Ronx,

How do I know which are the 'frameset, banner or contents pages?

I am still trying, very trying!

Simon
If you just take out the frames you will be left with a lot of pages with no
navigation, and no home page.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

Ronx,

I have just read your original email again. I have decided that I have not got a bloody clue what you are on about. Sorry to frustrate you so much, but this is out of my league.

I will stick to recovering data from hard disk drives, and doing forensic work. It sounds much harder, but its loads easier than this!

Regards,

Simon

PS If you want to do this for me, the offer still stands!
Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg, not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

Murray,

the URI?

Simon
What's the URI to the frameset?

--
Murray

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
M

Murray

Yes - where can I browse to see the frameset pages?

--
Murray

Murray,

the URI?

Simon
What's the URI to the frameset?

--
Murray

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

www.steggles.com
Yes - where can I browse to see the frameset pages?

--
Murray

Murray,

the URI?

Simon
What's the URI to the frameset?

--
Murray

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
M

Murray

This URL brings up a page with this code -

<html><head><title>steggles.com</title></head><frameset><frame src="http://www.steggles.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk" name="steggles.com"></frameset></html>

That linked page - http://www.steggles.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk - does not have frames on it. Perhaps that is why you are struggling?

Your only use of frames is to redirect your visitor to the latter URI. I'm not sure what you want to do now?

--
Murray

www.steggles.com
Yes - where can I browse to see the frameset pages?

--
Murray

Murray,

the URI?

Simon
What's the URI to the frameset?

--
Murray

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

Murray,

I am thinking about suicide!

I backed up and now it seams that I dont have any navigation, (from my perfectly good working backup), so again, I am at a loss as to what to do.

Any ideas on that one? - the navigation is there in the website homepage, and can be seen in the preview, but when I go to host, it isnt there!!!???????

F*#king computers!

Simon
This URL brings up a page with this code -

<html><head><title>steggles.com</title></head><frameset><frame src="http://www.steggles.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk" name="steggles.com"></frameset></html>

That linked page - http://www.steggles.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk - does not have frames on it. Perhaps that is why you are struggling?

Your only use of frames is to redirect your visitor to the latter URI. I'm not sure what you want to do now?

--
Murray

www.steggles.com
Yes - where can I browse to see the frameset pages?

--
Murray

Murray,

the URI?

Simon
What's the URI to the frameset?

--
Murray

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
M

Murray

Simon:

Sorry - my head is spinning. What is it you want to do?

--
Murray

Murray,

I am thinking about suicide!

I backed up and now it seams that I dont have any navigation, (from my
perfectly good working backup), so again, I am at a loss as to what to do.

Any ideas on that one? - the navigation is there in the website homepage,
and can be seen in the preview, but when I go to host, it isnt
there!!!???????

F*#king computers!

Simon
This URL brings up a page with this code -

<html><head><title>steggles.com</title></head><frameset><frame
src="http://www.steggles.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk"
name="steggles.com"></frameset></html>

That linked page - http://www.steggles.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk - does not have
frames on it. Perhaps that is why you are struggling?

Your only use of frames is to redirect your visitor to the latter URI. I'm
not sure what you want to do now?

--
Murray

www.steggles.com
Yes - where can I browse to see the frameset pages?

--
Murray

Murray,

the URI?

Simon
What's the URI to the frameset?

--
Murray

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
S

Steggles - Home Office

Murray,

Sod it, its spinning your head, its positively blowing mine up.

I tried to get rid of the frames, but I couldn't do it, so I tried to reinstall a backup of my original site, prior to all this messing around, but it seems to have lost the navigation. I have now, (hopefully) got the navigation done in simple hyperlinks, (manually), and will leave the site till I come back from holiday.

Thanks for your help, but your are up against it trying to help me!

Again, thanks,

Simon
www.steggles.com
Simon:

Sorry - my head is spinning. What is it you want to do?

--
Murray

Murray,

I am thinking about suicide!

I backed up and now it seams that I dont have any navigation, (from my
perfectly good working backup), so again, I am at a loss as to what to do.

Any ideas on that one? - the navigation is there in the website homepage,
and can be seen in the preview, but when I go to host, it isnt
there!!!???????

F*#king computers!

Simon
This URL brings up a page with this code -

<html><head><title>steggles.com</title></head><frameset><frame
src="http://www.steggles.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk"
name="steggles.com"></frameset></html>

That linked page - http://www.steggles.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk - does not have
frames on it. Perhaps that is why you are struggling?

Your only use of frames is to redirect your visitor to the latter URI. I'm
not sure what you want to do now?

--
Murray

www.steggles.com
Yes - where can I browse to see the frameset pages?

--
Murray

Murray,

the URI?

Simon
What's the URI to the frameset?

--
Murray

Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents, and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset, banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
R

Ronx

URL for site?

My 3 minutes was based on a typical 3 frame frameset -> Banner, Navigation
and Main.

It sounds as if yours is more complex. If you have the site published, or
can publish part of it (even in a zip file) I'll have a look.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste
job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam
easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames
or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location
on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents,
and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse
to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset,
banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the
frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page
to
be
the home page.

Ron
 
R

Ronx

Having read further through this thread I can see that you don't actually
have a frames site, which is why you are having difficulty.

The only frame involved is in the framed redirection set up with your domain
name registrar. There is nothing that can be done about that other than
paid hosting where the domain name points to your web site through DNS, or
redirection where the domain name is converted to the Blueyonder address,
which then shows in the web browser title bar.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,
Your 3 minute job has just taken me over 3 hours, and all I have ended up
doing is redesigning the page where I still have the same problems!

I have a problem at the start, which is that the banner on my site is a jpg,
not an html file, so I cant import it!

Bloody hell this is frustrating.

Anyone want to do this for me?


Simon
This method took 3 minutes to build the DWT, and it only takes 1 minute to
apply a DWT to 100 pages.
It took longer to write the instructions, than to do the job.
The hard bit is rebuilding the default page, how hard depends on the
navigation you used - FP navigation components will be a cut and paste
job,
manually created navigation will be a delete and rename.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.


Ronx,

Thanks for the answer, but is that the only way? To me, it would seam
easier
if I just did the site again!

Is there any simpler way? Can I just take out the coding that says frames
or
something like that?

Simon
First, make a backup of your site by publishing it to another location
on
your hard disc.

This guide is very rough, and assumes you are using Banner, Contents,
and
Main frames in your frameset.

Create a new page.
Insert a table, 100% width, with 2 rows and 2 columns.
Merge the cells in the top row, and click in the cell.
Use the FP Insert-> Web Component-> Included Content-> Page and browse
to
the banner page. The top row now includes your banner.
Now click in the left cell, and include the contents page.
Save the page as a Dynamic Web Template.
Click in the remaining cell, use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Manage
editable regions and type in Main, click on add.
The third cell will now have an orange border, and titled Main.
Save the page.

In the folder list select all your content pages (not the frameset,
banner
or contents pages) and use Format-> Dynamic Web Template-> Attach Web
Template
All the selected pages will get the navigation and banner from the
template.

The problem remaining is the default page, which is currently the
frameset
page (probably).
If you used the FrontPage navigation component (which should not be used
in
frames sites): the content of the first content page must be copied to
the
frameset page, replacing the frameset, and the navigation adjusted.
Otherwise, delete the frameset page, and rename the first content page
to
be
the home page.

Ron
 

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