How do I show what the percentage is of one figure to another?

J

JR Hove

I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help

Jane
 
N

Niek Otten

Hi Jane,

My standard blurp on percentages:

=============================================================
About percentages in Excel

Niek Otten, July 26 2006

In Excel, percentages are stored as fractions; 15% is stored as 0.15, 100% as 1. That makes it easy to calculate with; just
multiply a number with a percentage and you get what you need. No need to divide/multiply by 100. In fact, if you see a
calculation with percentages which has the number 100 somewhere in the formula; be very careful, it might be wrong or at least use
percentages in a way they weren't meant to be used in Excel.
The conversion to a fraction happens automatically if you enter the % sign: if you enter "15%" (without the quotes) the
value will be 0.15 and it will be displayed as 15%. If you then enter 12 in the same cell, two things can happen: It will be the
number 12 or 12%. What happens in your case depends on a setting:
Tools>Options, Edit tab, "Enable automatic percent entry" (only Excel2000 and newer).
All built-in functions of Excel and all the functions in Analysis Toolpak use this representation of percentages: be careful
when supplying parameters to these functions; never use whole numbers (like 8), always use fractions (like 0.08 or, even better,
8%).

Frequently Asked Questions:

Q:
I have A1 and B1. How do I get C1 to show B1 as a percentage of A1?
A:
Formula in C1: =B1/A1, Format as %

Q:
I have A1 and B1. How do I show the difference as a percentage in C1?
A:
As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as %
As a percentage of B1: =(B1-A1)/B1, Format as %
=============================================================



--
Kind regards,

Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel

|I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
| or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
| whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help
|
| Jane
 
J

Jim

Niek,

re: As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as % - how do you handle A1=0?

Jim
 
N

Niek Otten

Hi Jim,

What do you want the percentage to be? How many % is 200.000 of zero?

Maybe you want to give "no" answer (empty cell):

=IF(A1=0,"",(B1-A1)/A1)

But something in the logic of your spreadsheet is wrong, I think, if you're trying to find out what the percentage of zero is.

Or can you give an example where this is meaningful?
--
Kind regards,

Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel

| Niek,
|
| re: As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as % - how do you handle A1=0?
|
| Jim
|
| "Niek Otten" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jane,
| >
| > My standard blurp on percentages:
| >
| > =============================================================
| > About percentages in Excel
| >
| > Niek Otten, July 26 2006
| >
| > In Excel, percentages are stored as fractions; 15% is stored as 0.15, 100% as 1. That makes it easy to calculate with;
just
| > multiply a number with a percentage and you get what you need. No need to divide/multiply by 100. In fact, if you see a
| > calculation with percentages which has the number 100 somewhere in the formula; be very careful, it might be wrong or at least
use
| > percentages in a way they weren't meant to be used in Excel.
| > The conversion to a fraction happens automatically if you enter the % sign: if you enter "15%" (without the quotes) the
| > value will be 0.15 and it will be displayed as 15%. If you then enter 12 in the same cell, two things can happen: It will be
the
| > number 12 or 12%. What happens in your case depends on a setting:
| > Tools>Options, Edit tab, "Enable automatic percent entry" (only Excel2000 and newer).
| > All built-in functions of Excel and all the functions in Analysis Toolpak use this representation of percentages: be
careful
| > when supplying parameters to these functions; never use whole numbers (like 8), always use fractions (like 0.08 or, even
better,
| > 8%).
| >
| > Frequently Asked Questions:
| >
| > Q:
| > I have A1 and B1. How do I get C1 to show B1 as a percentage of A1?
| > A:
| > Formula in C1: =B1/A1, Format as %
| >
| > Q:
| > I have A1 and B1. How do I show the difference as a percentage in C1?
| > A:
| > As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as %
| > As a percentage of B1: =(B1-A1)/B1, Format as %
| > =============================================================
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| > Kind regards,
| >
| > Niek Otten
| > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| >
| > |I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
| > | or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
| > | whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help
| > |
| > | Jane
| >
| >
| >
 
J

Jim

Niek,

If A1 is a prior value and B1 is a current value how do *you* define the
change as a % when prior was 0? I've often thought of it as a 100% change,
but that is likely not good math theory. Just looking for your take on the
issue...

Jim
 
N

Niek Otten

Hi Jim,

Such a change as a percentage is not defined.
It's not 100% either. Just not defined.
A percentage is just one way of expressing a value as a fraction of another value. And nothing, not even zero, is a defined
fraction of zero.

Think about what division means. You have a candy bar and want to divide it between 3 kids; each gets 1/3.
Now you want to divide it between no kids. How much does each of them get?
No definition for that.

--
Kind regards,

Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel


| Niek,
|
| If A1 is a prior value and B1 is a current value how do *you* define the
| change as a % when prior was 0? I've often thought of it as a 100% change,
| but that is likely not good math theory. Just looking for your take on the
| issue...
|
| Jim
|
| "Niek Otten" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jim,
| >
| > What do you want the percentage to be? How many % is 200.000 of zero?
| >
| > Maybe you want to give "no" answer (empty cell):
| >
| > =IF(A1=0,"",(B1-A1)/A1)
| >
| > But something in the logic of your spreadsheet is wrong, I think, if you're trying to find out what the percentage of zero is.
| >
| > Or can you give an example where this is meaningful?
| > --
| > Kind regards,
| >
| > Niek Otten
| > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| >
| > | Niek,
| > |
| > | re: As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as % - how do you handle A1=0?
| > |
| > | Jim
| > |
| > | "Niek Otten" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Jane,
| > | >
| > | > My standard blurp on percentages:
| > | >
| > | > =============================================================
| > | > About percentages in Excel
| > | >
| > | > Niek Otten, July 26 2006
| > | >
| > | > In Excel, percentages are stored as fractions; 15% is stored as 0.15, 100% as 1. That makes it easy to calculate
with;
| > just
| > | > multiply a number with a percentage and you get what you need. No need to divide/multiply by 100. In fact, if you see a
| > | > calculation with percentages which has the number 100 somewhere in the formula; be very careful, it might be wrong or at
least
| > use
| > | > percentages in a way they weren't meant to be used in Excel.
| > | > The conversion to a fraction happens automatically if you enter the % sign: if you enter "15%" (without the quotes)
the
| > | > value will be 0.15 and it will be displayed as 15%. If you then enter 12 in the same cell, two things can happen: It will
be
| > the
| > | > number 12 or 12%. What happens in your case depends on a setting:
| > | > Tools>Options, Edit tab, "Enable automatic percent entry" (only Excel2000 and newer).
| > | > All built-in functions of Excel and all the functions in Analysis Toolpak use this representation of percentages: be
| > careful
| > | > when supplying parameters to these functions; never use whole numbers (like 8), always use fractions (like 0.08 or, even
| > better,
| > | > 8%).
| > | >
| > | > Frequently Asked Questions:
| > | >
| > | > Q:
| > | > I have A1 and B1. How do I get C1 to show B1 as a percentage of A1?
| > | > A:
| > | > Formula in C1: =B1/A1, Format as %
| > | >
| > | > Q:
| > | > I have A1 and B1. How do I show the difference as a percentage in C1?
| > | > A:
| > | > As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as %
| > | > As a percentage of B1: =(B1-A1)/B1, Format as %
| > | > =============================================================
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Kind regards,
| > | >
| > | > Niek Otten
| > | > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| > | >
| > | > |I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
| > | > | or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
| > | > | whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help
| > | > |
| > | > | Jane
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
J

Jim

Niek,

That is certainly the correct math answer. How would you handle that issue
in an Excel report based on extracted data from another source? This would
be one line in a multi page report. I think =if(a1=0,"undefined",(b1-a1)/a1)
would produce more questions than good information.

Jim
 
N

Niek Otten

Jim,

I would probably put something like "NA"; not applicable.
Or just leave it blank.
Or an exclamation mark, meaning: "Something's going on here!"


--
Kind regards,

Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel

| Niek,
|
| That is certainly the correct math answer. How would you handle that issue
| in an Excel report based on extracted data from another source? This would
| be one line in a multi page report. I think =if(a1=0,"undefined",(b1-a1)/a1)
| would produce more questions than good information.
|
| Jim
|
| "Niek Otten" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jim,
| >
| > Such a change as a percentage is not defined.
| > It's not 100% either. Just not defined.
| > A percentage is just one way of expressing a value as a fraction of another value. And nothing, not even zero, is a defined
| > fraction of zero.
| >
| > Think about what division means. You have a candy bar and want to divide it between 3 kids; each gets 1/3.
| > Now you want to divide it between no kids. How much does each of them get?
| > No definition for that.
| >
| > --
| > Kind regards,
| >
| > Niek Otten
| > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| >
| >
| > | Niek,
| > |
| > | If A1 is a prior value and B1 is a current value how do *you* define the
| > | change as a % when prior was 0? I've often thought of it as a 100% change,
| > | but that is likely not good math theory. Just looking for your take on the
| > | issue...
| > |
| > | Jim
| > |
| > | "Niek Otten" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Jim,
| > | >
| > | > What do you want the percentage to be? How many % is 200.000 of zero?
| > | >
| > | > Maybe you want to give "no" answer (empty cell):
| > | >
| > | > =IF(A1=0,"",(B1-A1)/A1)
| > | >
| > | > But something in the logic of your spreadsheet is wrong, I think, if you're trying to find out what the percentage of zero
is.
| > | >
| > | > Or can you give an example where this is meaningful?
| > | > --
| > | > Kind regards,
| > | >
| > | > Niek Otten
| > | > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| > | >
| > | > | Niek,
| > | > |
| > | > | re: As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as % - how do you handle A1=0?
| > | > |
| > | > | Jim
| > | > |
| > | > | "Niek Otten" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Jane,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > My standard blurp on percentages:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > =============================================================
| > | > | > About percentages in Excel
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Niek Otten, July 26 2006
| > | > | >
| > | > | > In Excel, percentages are stored as fractions; 15% is stored as 0.15, 100% as 1. That makes it easy to calculate
| > with;
| > | > just
| > | > | > multiply a number with a percentage and you get what you need. No need to divide/multiply by 100. In fact, if you see
a
| > | > | > calculation with percentages which has the number 100 somewhere in the formula; be very careful, it might be wrong or
at
| > least
| > | > use
| > | > | > percentages in a way they weren't meant to be used in Excel.
| > | > | > The conversion to a fraction happens automatically if you enter the % sign: if you enter "15%" (without the
quotes)
| > the
| > | > | > value will be 0.15 and it will be displayed as 15%. If you then enter 12 in the same cell, two things can happen: It
will
| > be
| > | > the
| > | > | > number 12 or 12%. What happens in your case depends on a setting:
| > | > | > Tools>Options, Edit tab, "Enable automatic percent entry" (only Excel2000 and newer).
| > | > | > All built-in functions of Excel and all the functions in Analysis Toolpak use this representation of
percentages: be
| > | > careful
| > | > | > when supplying parameters to these functions; never use whole numbers (like 8), always use fractions (like 0.08 or,
even
| > | > better,
| > | > | > 8%).
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Frequently Asked Questions:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Q:
| > | > | > I have A1 and B1. How do I get C1 to show B1 as a percentage of A1?
| > | > | > A:
| > | > | > Formula in C1: =B1/A1, Format as %
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Q:
| > | > | > I have A1 and B1. How do I show the difference as a percentage in C1?
| > | > | > A:
| > | > | > As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as %
| > | > | > As a percentage of B1: =(B1-A1)/B1, Format as %
| > | > | > =============================================================
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Kind regards,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Niek Otten
| > | > | > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
| > | > | > | or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
| > | > | > | whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Jane
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 

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