How many times can I install Office "legally"

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GW62

I had my laptop stolen with Office 2007 installed on it. My home owners
insurrance is going to pay for a replacement, but can I install MS Office on
it without buying another copy? I also had Streets and Trips on it. I tried
loading that on a spair laptop I have and it won't let me activate it. Is the
same thing going to happen to Office? Or should I include the cost of Office
in the estimate for my insurrance?
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

When your laptop was stolen, so was the software licenses.
Use the insurance proceeds to purchase new software.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

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I had my laptop stolen with Office 2007 installed on it. My home owners
insurrance is going to pay for a replacement, but can I install MS Office on
it without buying another copy? I also had Streets and Trips on it. I tried
loading that on a spair laptop I have and it won't let me activate it. Is the
same thing going to happen to Office? Or should I include the cost of Office
in the estimate for my insurrance?
 
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Earle Horton

If the OP still has the media and certificate of authenticity, i.e. Product
Key, then this is not true. If he bought Office online, but still has the
credit card receipt, Product Key, can prove he is the purchaser, etc., then
he is still in possession of the licenses. The thief or whoever he sells
the laptop to is in possession of unauthorized, i.e. "not genuine" Microsoft
software. It all depends on where the original owner kept his proof of
ownership. If he has the Product Key for Streets and Trips, then a call to
the activation phone number is in order.

I would also worry about the possibility of identity theft at this point.
How many passwords are stored on the laptop, along with how much personal
information?

If it is a trial copy of Office 2007, such as come with many new laptops,
then the loss of the software is moot. It is going to expire anyway.

I agree that it may be easier to simply report the software as stolen, but
if there is a chance of getting it back, say by establishing ownership of
the licenses, that might be the better way to go. Insurance companies keep
track of how many claims you submit. If you submit too many, instead of
making a reasonable attempt to recover property, you may see your premiums
go up.

On the laptop, my Dell has a "Service Tag" number which I had transferred to
me after buying it. If your manufacturer has something like that, then call
them and report the machine as stolen. Thieves tend to be stupid. Maybe
he'll put in a warranty claim...

Cheers,

Earle
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

If your car was stolen, and you had an extra set of keys,
what is the next step?

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

---------------------------------------------------------------

If the OP still has the media and certificate of authenticity, i.e. Product
Key, then this is not true. If he bought Office online, but still has the
credit card receipt, Product Key, can prove he is the purchaser, etc., then
he is still in possession of the licenses. The thief or whoever he sells
the laptop to is in possession of unauthorized, i.e. "not genuine" Microsoft
software. It all depends on where the original owner kept his proof of
ownership. If he has the Product Key for Streets and Trips, then a call to
the activation phone number is in order.

I would also worry about the possibility of identity theft at this point.
How many passwords are stored on the laptop, along with how much personal
information?

If it is a trial copy of Office 2007, such as come with many new laptops,
then the loss of the software is moot. It is going to expire anyway.

I agree that it may be easier to simply report the software as stolen, but
if there is a chance of getting it back, say by establishing ownership of
the licenses, that might be the better way to go. Insurance companies keep
track of how many claims you submit. If you submit too many, instead of
making a reasonable attempt to recover property, you may see your premiums
go up.

On the laptop, my Dell has a "Service Tag" number which I had transferred to
me after buying it. If your manufacturer has something like that, then call
them and report the machine as stolen. Thieves tend to be stupid. Maybe
he'll put in a warranty claim...

Cheers,

Earle
 
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Earle Horton

Not a good analogy. If I have a DVD or retail license of Office 2007 with
the Product Key, I just install it on the new laptop, activate it and I am
good to go. Maybe I have to call the activation center phone number and
explain to them about the theft. Microsoft can deal with the stolen copy of
Office the same way they deal with any pirated copy. Maybe they will even
catch up with the thief.

I you have registered your computer with the manufacturer, you can at least
prevent the thief or his customer from obtaining technical or warranty
support.

Earle
 
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GW62

I still have the install disks and original COA. I would think that when it
is registered MS has records of that. I'm thinking If I try to register it
again MS might block it, just like they are doing with Streets and Trips.

Not sure how savy the theives are, I did have only one user set up on it
with a password. But I'm sure there are ways around that. I've already
changed all my passwords for any web sites I go to, and any online accounts I
have. Might be a good idea to subscribe to LifeLock for good measure.

I'm just not sure how State Farm is gonna handle replacing "software".
 
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GW62

Earle Horton said:
I you have registered your computer with the manufacturer, you can at least
prevent the thief or his customer from obtaining technical or warranty
support.

Earle


This might be a good idea to call Panasonic to give them the SN, and maybe
by chance someone might call in for support one day.
 
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Joseph Meehan

I have not seen on issue addressed. Was the Office 2007 come with the
computer (OEM)? If so it went with the computer. On the other hand if it
was a different version (still Office 2007) you may have rights to install
it on more than one machine. If you have the original disk and packaging,
chances are you will not need to buy an additional copy. You can decide if
you want to claim the loose of one install against your insurance or not.
 
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Peter Foldes

Earle

OEM versions of Office dies with the computer that it was installed on originally. In this case the stolen laptop.

Carey is correct with his answer on this

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
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Earle Horton

OP didn't say if it was OEM. They never put in enough details, do they?
Carey doesn't have enough data to be correct, neither do I.

Most of the laptop/Office bundles I have seen off the shelf have the
cripple-ware version, to keep the price down. Report it stolen to the mfgr.
Send them a copy of the police report. At least have the satisfaction that
they will not get warranty service or technical support.

Cheers,

Earle

Earle

OEM versions of Office dies with the computer that it was installed on
originally. In this case the stolen laptop.

Carey is correct with his answer on this

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
 
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ohnonotnow!

AND to answer your (the OP) subject question.
if it's a nonOEM version, you can install it as many times as you want with
a waiting period of 90 days with the caveat that you can only have it
installed AT ONE TIME to the designated device (desktop or laptop) plus your
portable device (laptop).

if you want to read the licensing terms of the different versions go here
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA102103171033.aspx

or here
http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms/Default.aspx

onnn!
 
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GW62

Earle Horton said:
OP didn't say if it was OEM. They never put in enough details, do they?
Carey doesn't have enough data to be correct, neither do I.


OK, a litter more info here...

Office was not pre-installed on this laptop. It is a "off the shelf"
purchase version of Office Professional 2007. Original packaging, disks, and
COA. I guess I should just install it when I get my laptop replaced and see
what happens.
 
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Earle Horton

GW62 said:
OK, a litter more info here...

Office was not pre-installed on this laptop. It is a "off the shelf"
purchase version of Office Professional 2007. Original packaging, disks,
and
COA. I guess I should just install it when I get my laptop replaced and
see
what happens.

In that case it is still yours and the copy on your stolen laptop is a
stolen copy. You may have to do phone activation and explain this to a
human, but it shouldn't be any big deal.

Earle
 
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Gordon

ohnonotnow! said:
Yikes...
make that "and *NO* smartarse remarks or sighs....thanks for that "


And pray show us exactly WHERE in the post you replied to were the
"smartarse remarks or sighs"?????
 
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Gordon

ohnonotnow! said:
AND to answer your (the OP) subject question.
if it's a nonOEM version, you can install it as many times as you want
with
a waiting period of 90 days

And that is RUBBISH. Where did you get this rubbish about "90 days" from?
There is no such thing.
 
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Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi GW62,

As a side issue, you may want to consider including the price of a replacement copy of Microsoft Office in your insurance claim
request. If your laptop was stolen, it isn't very difficult to find out what the Product key for it is, and then the key can be
reused by another person on another computer as well.

Microsoft can (although I don't know if they will) block activation of a particular software product key, but there isn't a block
this number only on a particular computer. While that doesn't stop someone for using the copy currently installed it could prevent
them from using it in other machines, which could end up having activation blocked for you on a new machine due to the number of
activations. Might be worth emailing or phoning Microsoft to see if they will block the product key that you have, as stolen. The
Product key should be on an orange sticker, it's not the same as the Certificate of Authenticity.

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OK, a litter more info here...

Office was not pre-installed on this laptop. It is a "off the shelf"
purchase version of Office Professional 2007. Original packaging, disks, and
COA. I guess I should just install it when I get my laptop replaced and see
what happens.>>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 

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