How to create overstuck characters?

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Prof Wonmug

Is there a way that I can create characters formed by overstiking one
character on another?

At the moment, I need to create (a) letters with an overbar and (b)
letters with a diagonal slash.
 
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Paul Herber

Is there a way that I can create characters formed by overstiking one
character on another?

At the moment, I need to create (a) letters with an overbar and (b)
letters with a diagonal slash.

A bit of a bodge but it may do what you want:
http://www.sandrila.co.uk/binaries/overstrike.vsd

In each case the shape containing the underlying character (the a) has
a shape on top with no line pattern and no fill but contains just the
underline character (but moved up to be above the character) and a
diagonal slash.
 
W

WapperDude

Well, for the moment, let's talk about "overbar". It is, indeed, possible.
The overbar is pretty bad, in and of itself, and, to create one is a bit
tricky, unless you want all of the text with an overbar, then, it's easy.

Use the text tool, and create some text. Open shapesheet for that text
(menu bar > Window > Show shapesheet). [Use the Window>Tile to see both the
drawing and shapesheet windows.] Scroll down to the character section. To
the right, there is an "Overline" cell. Either enter 1 or true. The entire
text is now overlined -- such as it is.

But say, you just want a portion overlined? Keep the shape sheet open. Go
back to the drawing window, select the text that you want overlined, and
underline it. This will create a new line entry in the Char section of the
shapesheet. Depending upon where the underlined text is located, you may
have to experiment, change one of the Overline entries to false or 0 (zero)
to turn off the overline. The goal is to just keep the overline on the text
that you underlined. Then, go back to the drawing window, and turn the
underline off. Viola! Just the desired text is overlined.

HTH
Wapperdude.
 
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WapperDude

What do you mean by "letters with a diagonal slash"?



WapperDude said:
Well, for the moment, let's talk about "overbar". It is, indeed, possible.
The overbar is pretty bad, in and of itself, and, to create one is a bit
tricky, unless you want all of the text with an overbar, then, it's easy.

Use the text tool, and create some text. Open shapesheet for that text
(menu bar > Window > Show shapesheet). [Use the Window>Tile to see both the
drawing and shapesheet windows.] Scroll down to the character section. To
the right, there is an "Overline" cell. Either enter 1 or true. The entire
text is now overlined -- such as it is.

But say, you just want a portion overlined? Keep the shape sheet open. Go
back to the drawing window, select the text that you want overlined, and
underline it. This will create a new line entry in the Char section of the
shapesheet. Depending upon where the underlined text is located, you may
have to experiment, change one of the Overline entries to false or 0 (zero)
to turn off the overline. The goal is to just keep the overline on the text
that you underlined. Then, go back to the drawing window, and turn the
underline off. Viola! Just the desired text is overlined.

HTH
Wapperdude.



Prof Wonmug said:
Is there a way that I can create characters formed by overstiking one
character on another?

At the moment, I need to create (a) letters with an overbar and (b)
letters with a diagonal slash.
 
W

WapperDude

If you mean a letter with a diagonal slash above it, then, there are a few
characters that have that. You need to bring up the Window's Character Map
utility. Go to start button, run, type charmap.exe, enter. Choose the font
you like, scroll thru it to see if the letter with the diag is present,
select and copy it. Go to Visio, use the Text tool, place cursor where you
want the copied letter, and paste.



WapperDude said:
What do you mean by "letters with a diagonal slash"?



WapperDude said:
Well, for the moment, let's talk about "overbar". It is, indeed, possible.
The overbar is pretty bad, in and of itself, and, to create one is a bit
tricky, unless you want all of the text with an overbar, then, it's easy.

Use the text tool, and create some text. Open shapesheet for that text
(menu bar > Window > Show shapesheet). [Use the Window>Tile to see both the
drawing and shapesheet windows.] Scroll down to the character section. To
the right, there is an "Overline" cell. Either enter 1 or true. The entire
text is now overlined -- such as it is.

But say, you just want a portion overlined? Keep the shape sheet open. Go
back to the drawing window, select the text that you want overlined, and
underline it. This will create a new line entry in the Char section of the
shapesheet. Depending upon where the underlined text is located, you may
have to experiment, change one of the Overline entries to false or 0 (zero)
to turn off the overline. The goal is to just keep the overline on the text
that you underlined. Then, go back to the drawing window, and turn the
underline off. Viola! Just the desired text is overlined.

HTH
Wapperdude.



Prof Wonmug said:
Is there a way that I can create characters formed by overstiking one
character on another?

At the moment, I need to create (a) letters with an overbar and (b)
letters with a diagonal slash.
 
P

Paul Herber

Well, for the moment, let's talk about "overbar". It is, indeed, possible.
The overbar is pretty bad, in and of itself, and, to create one is a bit
tricky, unless you want all of the text with an overbar, then, it's easy.

Use the text tool, and create some text. Open shapesheet for that text
(menu bar > Window > Show shapesheet). [Use the Window>Tile to see both the
drawing and shapesheet windows.] Scroll down to the character section. To
the right, there is an "Overline" cell.

So there is, never noticed that before!
 
J

John... Visio MVP

I'm taking a guess with the mention of over bar and diagonal strikeout that
he is trying to do math equations.

In Math when you try to show that terms cancel out, you usually use a
diagonal line, but that usually goes through several characters. Most of my
math is done in Word and I use a horizontal rather than a diagonal line for
strike out.
There is an example of strike out here
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/rtnlmult.htm

John... Visio MVP
WapperDude said:
If you mean a letter with a diagonal slash above it, then, there are a few
characters that have that. You need to bring up the Window's Character
Map
utility. Go to start button, run, type charmap.exe, enter. Choose the
font
you like, scroll thru it to see if the letter with the diag is present,
select and copy it. Go to Visio, use the Text tool, place cursor where
you
want the copied letter, and paste.



WapperDude said:
What do you mean by "letters with a diagonal slash"?



WapperDude said:
Well, for the moment, let's talk about "overbar". It is, indeed,
possible.
The overbar is pretty bad, in and of itself, and, to create one is a
bit
tricky, unless you want all of the text with an overbar, then, it's
easy.

Use the text tool, and create some text. Open shapesheet for that text
(menu bar > Window > Show shapesheet). [Use the Window>Tile to see
both the
drawing and shapesheet windows.] Scroll down to the character section.
To
the right, there is an "Overline" cell. Either enter 1 or true. The
entire
text is now overlined -- such as it is.

But say, you just want a portion overlined? Keep the shape sheet open.
Go
back to the drawing window, select the text that you want overlined,
and
underline it. This will create a new line entry in the Char section of
the
shapesheet. Depending upon where the underlined text is located, you
may
have to experiment, change one of the Overline entries to false or 0
(zero)
to turn off the overline. The goal is to just keep the overline on the
text
that you underlined. Then, go back to the drawing window, and turn the
underline off. Viola! Just the desired text is overlined.

HTH
Wapperdude.



:

Is there a way that I can create characters formed by overstiking one
character on another?

At the moment, I need to create (a) letters with an overbar and (b)
letters with a diagonal slash.
 
W

WapperDude

Good point John. If that's the case, then, why not use MS equation editor?
I think it is typically found here:"C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
Shared\EQUATION\EQNEDT32.EXE". This does quite a nice job of making
equations, and it's free. It's easy to cut and paste into Office products.



John... Visio MVP said:
I'm taking a guess with the mention of over bar and diagonal strikeout that
he is trying to do math equations.

In Math when you try to show that terms cancel out, you usually use a
diagonal line, but that usually goes through several characters. Most of my
math is done in Word and I use a horizontal rather than a diagonal line for
strike out.
There is an example of strike out here
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/rtnlmult.htm

John... Visio MVP
WapperDude said:
If you mean a letter with a diagonal slash above it, then, there are a few
characters that have that. You need to bring up the Window's Character
Map
utility. Go to start button, run, type charmap.exe, enter. Choose the
font
you like, scroll thru it to see if the letter with the diag is present,
select and copy it. Go to Visio, use the Text tool, place cursor where
you
want the copied letter, and paste.



WapperDude said:
What do you mean by "letters with a diagonal slash"?



:

Well, for the moment, let's talk about "overbar". It is, indeed,
possible.
The overbar is pretty bad, in and of itself, and, to create one is a
bit
tricky, unless you want all of the text with an overbar, then, it's
easy.

Use the text tool, and create some text. Open shapesheet for that text
(menu bar > Window > Show shapesheet). [Use the Window>Tile to see
both the
drawing and shapesheet windows.] Scroll down to the character section.
To
the right, there is an "Overline" cell. Either enter 1 or true. The
entire
text is now overlined -- such as it is.

But say, you just want a portion overlined? Keep the shape sheet open.
Go
back to the drawing window, select the text that you want overlined,
and
underline it. This will create a new line entry in the Char section of
the
shapesheet. Depending upon where the underlined text is located, you
may
have to experiment, change one of the Overline entries to false or 0
(zero)
to turn off the overline. The goal is to just keep the overline on the
text
that you underlined. Then, go back to the drawing window, and turn the
underline off. Viola! Just the desired text is overlined.

HTH
Wapperdude.



:

Is there a way that I can create characters formed by overstiking one
character on another?

At the moment, I need to create (a) letters with an overbar and (b)
letters with a diagonal slash.
 
J

John... Visio MVP

That is an older version than comes with Word 2007, but you can copy and
paste into Visio from the one you mentioned, but not from the one in Word
2007.

John... Visio MVP
WapperDude said:
Good point John. If that's the case, then, why not use MS equation
editor?
I think it is typically found here:"C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft
Shared\EQUATION\EQNEDT32.EXE". This does quite a nice job of making
equations, and it's free. It's easy to cut and paste into Office
products.



John... Visio MVP said:
I'm taking a guess with the mention of over bar and diagonal strikeout
that
he is trying to do math equations.

In Math when you try to show that terms cancel out, you usually use a
diagonal line, but that usually goes through several characters. Most of
my
math is done in Word and I use a horizontal rather than a diagonal line
for
strike out.
There is an example of strike out here
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/rtnlmult.htm

John... Visio MVP
WapperDude said:
If you mean a letter with a diagonal slash above it, then, there are a
few
characters that have that. You need to bring up the Window's Character
Map
utility. Go to start button, run, type charmap.exe, enter. Choose the
font
you like, scroll thru it to see if the letter with the diag is present,
select and copy it. Go to Visio, use the Text tool, place cursor where
you
want the copied letter, and paste.



:

What do you mean by "letters with a diagonal slash"?



:

Well, for the moment, let's talk about "overbar". It is, indeed,
possible.
The overbar is pretty bad, in and of itself, and, to create one is a
bit
tricky, unless you want all of the text with an overbar, then, it's
easy.

Use the text tool, and create some text. Open shapesheet for that
text
(menu bar > Window > Show shapesheet). [Use the Window>Tile to see
both the
drawing and shapesheet windows.] Scroll down to the character
section.
To
the right, there is an "Overline" cell. Either enter 1 or true.
The
entire
text is now overlined -- such as it is.

But say, you just want a portion overlined? Keep the shape sheet
open.
Go
back to the drawing window, select the text that you want overlined,
and
underline it. This will create a new line entry in the Char section
of
the
shapesheet. Depending upon where the underlined text is located,
you
may
have to experiment, change one of the Overline entries to false or 0
(zero)
to turn off the overline. The goal is to just keep the overline on
the
text
that you underlined. Then, go back to the drawing window, and turn
the
underline off. Viola! Just the desired text is overlined.

HTH
Wapperdude.



:

Is there a way that I can create characters formed by overstiking
one
character on another?

At the moment, I need to create (a) letters with an overbar and
(b)
letters with a diagonal slash.
 

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