How to disable managed time periods?

L

Long

Hello,

I have a problem with actual work is different from actual work protected.
After a while searching for solution, I found some threads talking about this
issue and they say the solution is to disable managed time periods and then
republish assignment, tick on "Overwrite actual work entered by resources".
However, I dont know how to disabled managed time periods ?
Can somebody tell me how to do it? I have administrator right.
Thank you very much in advance.
Long
 
G

Gérard Ducouret

Hi Long,

In PWA, with administrator permissions :
Admin / Customize Project Web Access / Periods settings....

Gérard Ducouret
 
L

Long

Oops, I forgot to say, I am using Project Professional 2003, with Project Web
Access and Project Server 2003
 
C

clin341

I'm not sure if the solution you got is what you need. Checking the
"Overwrite actual work entered by resources" will overwrite data entered in
PWA with what's in Project.

To change time period settings, you need to go trhough PWA. In PWA, click
on "Admin" then click on "Customize Project Web Access". For the Time period
settings, select the radio button "Non Managed Periods - Allow Project and
Project Web Access users to update actuals".

Hope this helps,

CLin
 
L

Long

Thx for your reply

Gérard Ducouret said:
Hi Long,

In PWA, with administrator permissions :
Admin / Customize Project Web Access / Periods settings....

Gérard Ducouret
 
L

Long

Thanks a lot for your answer ^^

clin341 said:
I'm not sure if the solution you got is what you need. Checking the
"Overwrite actual work entered by resources" will overwrite data entered in
PWA with what's in Project.

To change time period settings, you need to go trhough PWA. In PWA, click
on "Admin" then click on "Customize Project Web Access". For the Time period
settings, select the radio button "Non Managed Periods - Allow Project and
Project Web Access users to update actuals".

Hope this helps,

CLin
 
L

Long

Someone please help me, after I republish it, the actual work protected was
updated with actual work, however, it looks like a lot of hour entered by the
resources were correct, and now they are all lost, is there a way to recover
it :(, to undo it, someone plz help me :-?? :((
 
C

clin341

Did you by chance have a backup?

CLin

Long said:
Someone please help me, after I republish it, the actual work protected was
updated with actual work, however, it looks like a lot of hour entered by the
resources were correct, and now they are all lost, is there a way to recover
it :(, to undo it, someone plz help me :-?? :((
 
L

Long

I didnt save into the other file before republishing, I dunno if the server
backup the data in somewhere ?? How can I check it and where can I get the
backup file (if there is backup)
Sorry, but im really really confused now, I dont know what to do, Im doomed
:((
 
L

Long

oh, btw, I have only administrator right of Project Server, I am not the
network administrator, so I dont know if I can do anything with the server's
backup ?
 
C

clin341

I would check with your database administrator and ask him if he has backups.
If so, what is the most recent backup. PLEASE NOTE: if you restore the
backup, it will effect ALL projects.

CLin
 
L

Long

Restored all the projects are even worse, since a lot of projects in the
database, and i remember right, i heard the server back up once everyday i
think. If restore it for all project even worse than now, since many other
projects will lost some new data :(

I guess Im doomed :(, maybe I have to ask them to fill in the hours again, I
still couldnt believe I have done it without any backup :((, so angry about
myself, now everyone will blame me about my idiot mistake.....

Thank you so much clin341, for helping me this far :(
Im so upset :(
 
T

tonyzink

Hi Long --

Manipulating Project Server's Managed Timesheet Periods feature without
fully understanding the effects, as well as working without a
well-thought-out backup and restore strategy, can lead to big
problems... which it sounds like you're learning the hard way. Having
administrative power without knowing how to use it can be dangerous.

It sounds like you're in quite a predicament, but I think that there's
still a way out of it, while minimizing re-entry of work hours by the
Team Members. This is key, since we rely on them to update tasks
accurately and in a timely manner, and we don't want them to lose
confidence in the system.

First, I assume that you will want to restore everyone else's projects
back to the current state in order to minimize re-work. You should be
able to do this by restoring the latest database backup; this should
bring everyone else's projects back up to date, and your project
schedule will be back to the point at which you had your Actual Work
and Actual Work Protected problem.

Once this is done, you have a couple of options... you can restore your
original troublesome project from a backup, or you can try to fix the
Actual Work / Actual Work Protected problem in current version of the
project schedule. There is a utility available from Microsoft that you
can use to restore a prior version of a single project schedule from a
backup, called the "Restore Single Project Tool" (you can visit
www.microsoft.com and search for it). However, it's not a simple
5-minute process, so I would first try to fix the latest version of the
schedule (it may be an easy fix).

You stated in your original post that the Actual Work and the Actual
Work Protected values were different in your project schedule... but
did you do further analysis to determine why they were different?

When your Project Server is configured to use Managed Timesheet
Periods, the Actual Work Protected values are those which have been
entered into Team Members' PWA timesheets... and thus they should be
accurate. The Actual Work Protected values are not editable by the
Project Manager in Project Pro when the Managed Timesheet Periods
function is enabled. However, the Actual Work values CAN be edited by
the PM in Project Pro, although they should match the Actual Work
Protected values. Because there are two separate sets of values, and
one set is protected and the other is not, it's possible that they can
become out of sync... and thus the alert messages that you've seen.

If you'd like suggestions on how to perform a detailed comparative
analysis of Actual Work and Actual Work Protected values, I can post
more info about that.

If you do some research and find that the Actual Work Protected values
are correct and the Actual Work values are not, then you can use a
built-in Project Pro function to re-sync them... Tools > Tracking >
Sync to Protected Actuals. This will update the Actual Work values in
Project Pro to match the Actual Work Protected values.

If, on the other hand, you do some research and find that all or some
of the Actual Work values are correct and the Actual Work Protected
values (entered by Team Members) are not correct, then you can do three
things:

1. Ask the Team Member(s) to correct the Actual Work hours in their PWA
timesheet(s) and resubmit (recommended)... if there are corrections
that need to be made during a closed timesheet period, then you will
need to temporarily open it for the correction.
2. Use the "Adjust Actuals" function in PWA to adjust the Team
Member(s) Actual Work hours for them
3. Turn off the Managed Timesheet Periods function, republish the
assignments and push the Actual Work hours from the project schedule
back out to the Team Member(s) PWA timesheet(s), then turn the Managed
Timesheet Periods function back on

If you choose option 3, keep in mind that you don't need to republish
all of the assignments in the project schedule, but rather you can
republish selected ones, keeping the others in tact.

Good luck!

Tony Zink
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Newbie

Hi Tony,
<<If you'd like suggestions on how to perform a detailed comparative
analysis of Actual Work and Actual Work Protected values, I can post
more info about that.>>

I would be very interested in such a comparative analysis of Actual Work and
Actual Work Protected values !
And i think that many other people would be too...
Thanks ahead!
 
T

tonyzink

Hi Newbie --

Here is one way to analyze Actual Work vs. Actual Work Protected in a
project schedule:

1. Open the Task Usage view (View > Task Usage)
2. Insert the Actual Work column and the Actual Work Protected column
into the view (if they are not already present); to insert a column
into a view, do the following:
a. Select Insert > Column
b. In the Column Definition dialog box, select the name of the
desired column (i.e. Actual Work or Actual Work Protected) from the
drop-down list
c. Click the OK button
3. Select Format > Detail Styles
4. In the Detail Styles dialog box, select Actual Work from the left
(available fields) pane, then click the Show button to add it to the
right (show these fields) pane; repeat for Actual Work Protected
5. Select Work in the right (show these fields) pane, then click the
Hide button
6. Click the OK button
7. You may need to widen the Details column to distinguish between the
Actual Work row and the Actual Work Protected row for each task; you
can see the word "Details" in the upper left corner of the right
pane... place your mouse cursor over the right border of the column,
then drag the border to the right

Now for each task assignment shown in the left pane of the Task Usage
view, you have two columns showing the total Actual Work and Actual
Work Protected for each, and you also have a separate row for Actual
Work and Actual Work Protected in the right pane which displays the
time-phased hours. You can use the Actual Work and Actual Work
Protected columns in the left pane to quickly locate which task
assignments have differences between Actual Work and Actual Work
Protected, then you can use the right pane to locate where the
differences appear on the timeline. Use the "+" and "-" magnifying
glass buttons on the toolbar to zoom the timeline in and out.

Good luck!

Tony Zink
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tonyzink

Hi Newbie --

Here is one way to analyze Actual Work vs. Actual Work Protected in a
project schedule:

1. Open the Task Usage view (View > Task Usage)
2. Insert the Actual Work column and the Actual Work Protected column
into the view (if they are not already present); to insert a column
into a view, do the following:
a. Select Insert > Column
b. In the Column Definition dialog box, select the name of the
desired column (i.e. Actual Work or Actual Work Protected) from the
drop-down list
c. Click the OK button
3. Select Format > Detail Styles
4. In the Detail Styles dialog box, select Actual Work from the left
(available fields) pane, then click the Show button to add it to the
right (show these fields) pane; repeat for Actual Work Protected
5. Select Work in the right (show these fields) pane, then click the
Hide button
6. Click the OK button
7. You may need to widen the Details column to distinguish between the
Actual Work row and the Actual Work Protected row for each task; you
can see the word "Details" in the upper left corner of the right
pane... place your mouse cursor over the right border of the column,
then drag the border to the right

Now for each task assignment shown in the left pane of the Task Usage
view, you have two columns showing the total Actual Work and Actual
Work Protected for each, and you also have a separate row for Actual
Work and Actual Work Protected in the right pane which displays the
time-phased hours. You can use the Actual Work and Actual Work
Protected columns in the left pane to quickly locate which task
assignments have differences between Actual Work and Actual Work
Protected, then you can use the right pane to locate where the
differences appear on the timeline. Use the "+" and "-" magnifying
glass buttons on the toolbar to zoom the timeline in and out.

Good luck!

Tony Zink
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L

Long

Hi tonyzink,

Thanks so much for your reply. Though I cant do recover the back up since I
am afraid it will effect other projects as well ( alot other projects are
running). I guess I can only ask them to fill the hours again (hopefully they
wont kill me :( )
Btw, I have one question, in PWA, I go to Resources -> Adjust actuals -> I
select the resource and I see that they lose only the hours of April, not
May, not March??? Why only April ??? could some body tell me ? If what Ive
done cause losing hours of the previous period then it should be gone all ?
or not ? why since 1st May till now is still correct?

Actually, I have worked as the trainee administrator for PS for 3 months
till now, I have solved alot of problems with the help from this Discussion
Group and therefor I also gained alot of knowledge about PS. However, there
are things I still dont know about the PS and as you said, having the admin
right without fully understanding about it is very dangerous, I will be very
very very very careful from now on.

Thank you again and best regards,
Long
 
L

Long

oh I forgot to say:
I know the different between Actual work and Actual work protected, and I
know AWP should be correct since it was entered by the resource. However, in
my case, there were some strange value in the project file which I am sure
that they are not correct. For example, the sickness hours of some people is
8h/day for the whole month which is of course not entered by the resource.
Some tasks show 8h/day for whole month and it bump the working hour of the
resource to few thousand hours for few months??? Could it has anything with
the project made base on the project (the old project of 2005 has been put in
archived to hide and the new project made base on the old project to store
data of 2006 <<< could it be the problem made incorrect hours)
Ive tried to look for a good explaination for it but I havent found anything
clear to me. If you could explain it to me, I would be appreciate.
Thanks and best regards,
Long
 

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