Hi Patricia;
Actually, your venting is rather mild compared to some of what has been
witnessed here ;-) But you've also misdirected most of your allegations by
overlooking the most significant distinction -- one you actually alluded to
in your 'rant': Mac OS 9.x to OS X.
That's not only a far more significant difference than many realize but the
differences imposed new requirements& restrictions on software developers
which necessitated doing things another way or eliminating them
altogether... Not to mention that Apple establishes guidelines with which
software developers are expected to comply. IOW, many of the changes you see
in the programs you use [such as positioning of the Save As dialog& window
drag-ability] are actually determined by distinctions between what's now
referred to as 'Classic'& OS X combined with Apple's requirements.
As for the Paste Options button (I assume that's what you mean by "lunatic
feature"), it most certainly can be turned off. Just go to Word>Preferences>
Edit then clear the check on 'Show Paste Options buttons'. Quite honestly,
though, it comes in very handy for removing the gruesome formatting that
often accompanies the pasted text copied from other sources. You _can_ leave
the lunatic feature active if you prefer& just pres the esc key after
pasting to dismiss the button.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
I found a solution. Under "File" at the top of the screen I clicked "full
screen" in the drop-down menu. It brought my document down to manageable size.
Once "full screen" was activated, I could get a document out from under the
toolbars by going to "Window" at the top of the screen and clicking "zoom
window" in the drop-down menu.
(btw, you can move a toolbar down or over in order to get to a anything hidden
underneath, you don't have to close it. To drag it, hold your cursor down on
the far left just under the little "close" dot.)
In the old Word 98 program, you could just hold the cursor down anywhere on a
document and drag it anywhere you wanted. Microsoft "improved" the program in
2004. When the document winds up behind the toolbar it cannot be moved until
you click "zoom" because the top of the document is inaccessible.
In the 2004 program, the "save" window covers the entire document, the
"find/replace" box jumps to the center of a page and will not stay where you
put it, and there is a lunatic feature of a button appearing at the point of
a change or drag and drop. You cannot disable the button feature, the button
sits on top of the changes and it will not disappear until you make a
keystroke somewhere in the document.
What "were" they thinking when they junked up the perfectly good (great) Word
98, which, of course, will not run on OS X.
Thank you for replying to my "help me" post (and for letting me rant).
Patricia
IF she is referring to Format Painter Its a great feature I recently ran
into a bug with it.
I was retyping a Family tree document. as anyone knows with with Family
trees you use superscripted numbers to identify generations. Format
painter would bust the superscript numbers and change the back to
regular numbers.
Hi Patricia;
Actually, your venting is rather mild compared to some of what has been
witnessed here ;-) But you've also misdirected most of your allegations by
overlooking the most significant distinction -- one you actually alluded to
in your 'rant': Mac OS 9.x to OS X.
That's not only a far more significant difference than many realize but the
differences imposed new requirements& restrictions on software developers
which necessitated doing things another way or eliminating them
altogether... Not to mention that Apple establishes guidelines with which
software developers are expected to comply. IOW, many of the changes you see
in the programs you use [such as positioning of the Save As dialog& window
drag-ability] are actually determined by distinctions between what's now
referred to as 'Classic'& OS X combined with Apple's requirements.
As for the Paste Options button (I assume that's what you mean by "lunatic
feature"), it most certainly can be turned off. Just go to Word>Preferences>
Edit then clear the check on 'Show Paste Options buttons'. Quite honestly,
though, it comes in very handy for removing the gruesome formatting that
often accompanies the pasted text copied from other sources. You _can_ leave
the lunatic feature active if you prefer& just pres the esc key after
pasting to dismiss the button.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
I found a solution. Under "File" at the top of the screen I clicked "full
screen" in the drop-down menu. It brought my document down to manageable
size.
Once "full screen" was activated, I could get a document out from under the
toolbars by going to "Window" at the top of the screen and clicking "zoom
window" in the drop-down menu.
(btw, you can move a toolbar down or over in order to get to a anything
hidden
underneath, you don't have to close it. To drag it, hold your cursor down on
the far left just under the little "close" dot.)
In the old Word 98 program, you could just hold the cursor down anywhere on
a
document and drag it anywhere you wanted. Microsoft "improved" the program
in
2004. When the document winds up behind the toolbar it cannot be moved until
you click "zoom" because the top of the document is inaccessible.
In the 2004 program, the "save" window covers the entire document, the
"find/replace" box jumps to the center of a page and will not stay where you
put it, and there is a lunatic feature of a button appearing at the point of
a change or drag and drop. You cannot disable the button feature, the button
sits on top of the changes and it will not disappear until you make a
keystroke somewhere in the document.
What "were" they thinking when they junked up the perfectly good (great)
Word
98, which, of course, will not run on OS X.
Thank you for replying to my "help me" post (and for letting me rant).
Patricia
I don't think you "ran into a bug", although there isn't enough detail about
what you did encounter to know exactly what did happen. However, I haven't
come across any misbehavior of Format Painter in that respect.
My guess is that you copied the formatting from text which was *not*
formatted as Superscript& applied it to content which included
Superscripted numbers. What actually happened is that the target text was,
in fact, reformatted to not include Superscript... which is to be expected.
Also, if the text you selected to copy the formatting contained a mixture of
conflicting formats (i.e. Some superscripted, some not) the feature will
apply the *first* used in the source text. IOW, the feature works basedon
the range of text selected, not on the basis of the individual characters in
that range ‹ nor does it 'pick& choose' what to apply to whichindividual
characters. Most likely the superscripted content you copied the formatting
from was at the *end* what you copied... If the superscript had been atthe
beginning of where you copied the formatting it would have been appliedto
*all* of what you applied it to.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
IF she is referring to Format Painter Its a great feature I recently ran
into a bug with it.
I was retyping a Family tree document. as anyone knows with with Family
trees you use superscripted numbers to identify generations. Format
painter would bust the superscript numbers and change the back to
regular numbers.
Hi Patricia;
Actually, your venting is rather mild compared to some of what has been
witnessed here ;-) But you've also misdirected most of your allegations by
overlooking the most significant distinction -- one you actually alluded to
in your 'rant': Mac OS 9.x to OS X.
That's not only a far more significant difference than many realize but the
differences imposed new requirements& restrictions on software developers
which necessitated doing things another way or eliminating them
altogether... Not to mention that Apple establishes guidelines with which
software developers are expected to comply. IOW, many of the changes you see
in the programs you use [such as positioning of the Save As dialog& window
drag-ability] are actually determined by distinctions between what's now
referred to as 'Classic'& OS X combined with Apple's requirements.
As for the Paste Options button (I assume that's what you mean by "lunatic
feature"), it most certainly can be turned off. Just go to Word>Preferences>
Edit then clear the check on 'Show Paste Options buttons'. Quite honestly,
though, it comes in very handy for removing the gruesome formatting that
often accompanies the pasted text copied from other sources. You _can_ leave
the lunatic feature active if you prefer& just pres the esc key after
pasting to dismiss the button.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 4/18/10 4:37 AM, in article (e-mail address removed)2ac0,
I found a solution. Under "File" at the top of the screen I clicked "full
screen" in the drop-down menu. It brought my document down to manageable
size.
Once "full screen" was activated, I could get a document out from under the
toolbars by going to "Window" at the top of the screen and clicking "zoom
window" in the drop-down menu.
(btw, you can move a toolbar down or over in order to get to a anything
hidden
underneath, you don't have to close it. To drag it, hold your cursordown on
the far left just under the little "close" dot.)
In the old Word 98 program, you could just hold the cursor down anywhere on
a
document and drag it anywhere you wanted. Microsoft "improved" the program
in
2004. When the document winds up behind the toolbar it cannot be moved until
you click "zoom" because the top of the document is inaccessible.
In the 2004 program, the "save" window covers the entire document, the
"find/replace" box jumps to the center of a page and will not stay where you
put it, and there is a lunatic feature of a button appearing at the point of
a change or drag and drop. You cannot disable the button feature, the button
sits on top of the changes and it will not disappear until you make a
keystroke somewhere in the document.
What "were" they thinking when they junked up the perfectly good (great)
Word
98, which, of course, will not run on OS X.
Thank you for replying to my "help me" post (and for letting me rant).
Patricia
I don't think you "ran into a bug", although there isn't enough detail about
what you did encounter to know exactly what did happen. However, I haven't
come across any misbehavior of Format Painter in that respect.
My guess is that you copied the formatting from text which was *not*
formatted as Superscript& applied it to content which included
Superscripted numbers. What actually happened is that the target text was,
in fact, reformatted to not include Superscript... which is to be expected.
Also, if the text you selected to copy the formatting contained a mixture of
conflicting formats (i.e. Some superscripted, some not) the feature will
apply the *first* used in the source text. IOW, the feature works basedon
the range of text selected, not on the basis of the individual characters in
that range ‹ nor does it 'pick& choose' what to apply to whichindividual
characters. Most likely the superscripted content you copied the formatting
from was at the *end* what you copied... If the superscript had been atthe
beginning of where you copied the formatting it would have been appliedto
*all* of what you applied it to.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
IF she is referring to Format Painter Its a great feature I recently ran
into a bug with it.
I was retyping a Family tree document. as anyone knows with with Family
trees you use superscripted numbers to identify generations. Format
painter would bust the superscript numbers and change the back to
regular numbers.
Hi Patricia;
Actually, your venting is rather mild compared to some of what has been
witnessed here ;-) But you've also misdirected most of your allegations by
overlooking the most significant distinction -- one you actually alluded to
in your 'rant': Mac OS 9.x to OS X.
That's not only a far more significant difference than many realize but the
differences imposed new requirements& restrictions on software developers
which necessitated doing things another way or eliminating them
altogether... Not to mention that Apple establishes guidelines with which
software developers are expected to comply. IOW, many of the changes you see
in the programs you use [such as positioning of the Save As dialog& window
drag-ability] are actually determined by distinctions between what's now
referred to as 'Classic'& OS X combined with Apple's requirements.
As for the Paste Options button (I assume that's what you mean by "lunatic
feature"), it most certainly can be turned off. Just go to Word>Preferences>
Edit then clear the check on 'Show Paste Options buttons'. Quite honestly,
though, it comes in very handy for removing the gruesome formatting that
often accompanies the pasted text copied from other sources. You _can_ leave
the lunatic feature active if you prefer& just pres the esc key after
pasting to dismiss the button.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 4/18/10 4:37 AM, in article (e-mail address removed)2ac0,
I found a solution. Under "File" at the top of the screen I clicked "full
screen" in the drop-down menu. It brought my document down to manageable
size.
Once "full screen" was activated, I could get a document out from under the
toolbars by going to "Window" at the top of the screen and clicking "zoom
window" in the drop-down menu.
(btw, you can move a toolbar down or over in order to get to a anything
hidden
underneath, you don't have to close it. To drag it, hold your cursordown on
the far left just under the little "close" dot.)
In the old Word 98 program, you could just hold the cursor down anywhere on
a
document and drag it anywhere you wanted. Microsoft "improved" the program
in
2004. When the document winds up behind the toolbar it cannot be moved until
you click "zoom" because the top of the document is inaccessible.
In the 2004 program, the "save" window covers the entire document, the
"find/replace" box jumps to the center of a page and will not stay where you
put it, and there is a lunatic feature of a button appearing at the point of
a change or drag and drop. You cannot disable the button feature, the button
sits on top of the changes and it will not disappear until you make a
keystroke somewhere in the document.
What "were" they thinking when they junked up the perfectly good (great)
Word
98, which, of course, will not run on OS X.
Thank you for replying to my "help me" post (and for letting me rant).
Patricia
give me your email and I will send you a copy of the word file. and you
can tru for yourself.
I don't think you "ran into a bug", although there isn't enough detailabout
what you did encounter to know exactly what did happen. However, I haven't
come across any misbehavior of Format Painter in that respect.
My guess is that you copied the formatting from text which was *not*
formatted as Superscript& applied it to content which included
Superscripted numbers. What actually happened is that the target text was,
in fact, reformatted to not include Superscript... which is to be expected.
Also, if the text you selected to copy the formatting contained a mixture of
conflicting formats (i.e. Some superscripted, some not) the feature will
apply the *first* used in the source text. IOW, the feature works based on
the range of text selected, not on the basis of the individual characters in
that range ‹ nor does it 'pick& choose' what to apply to which individual
characters. Most likely the superscripted content you copied the formatting
from was at the *end* what you copied... If the superscript had been at the
beginning of where you copied the formatting it would have been applied to
*all* of what you applied it to.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
IF she is referring to Format Painter Its a great feature I recently ran
into a bug with it.
I was retyping a Family tree document. as anyone knows with with Family
trees you use superscripted numbers to identify generations. Format
painter would bust the superscript numbers and change the back to
regular numbers.
CyberTaz wrote:
Hi Patricia;
Actually, your venting is rather mild compared to some of what has been
witnessed here ;-) But you've also misdirected most of your allegations by
overlooking the most significant distinction -- one you actually alluded to
in your 'rant': Mac OS 9.x to OS X.
That's not only a far more significant difference than many realize but the
differences imposed new requirements& restrictions on software developers
which necessitated doing things another way or eliminating them
altogether... Not to mention that Apple establishes guidelines with which
software developers are expected to comply. IOW, many of the changesyou see
in the programs you use [such as positioning of the Save As dialog& window
drag-ability] are actually determined by distinctions between what'snow
referred to as 'Classic'& OS X combined with Apple's requirements.
As for the Paste Options button (I assume that's what you mean by "lunatic
feature"), it most certainly can be turned off. Just go to Word>Preferences>
Edit then clear the check on 'Show Paste Options buttons'. Quite honestly,
though, it comes in very handy for removing the gruesome formatting that
often accompanies the pasted text copied from other sources. You _can_ leave
the lunatic feature active if you prefer& just pres the esc key after
pasting to dismiss the button.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 4/18/10 4:37 AM, in article (e-mail address removed)2ac0,
I found a solution. Under "File" at the top of the screen I clicked"full
screen" in the drop-down menu. It brought my document down to manageable
size.
Once "full screen" was activated, I could get a document out from under the
toolbars by going to "Window" at the top of the screen and clicking"zoom
window" in the drop-down menu.
(btw, you can move a toolbar down or over in order to get to a anything
hidden
underneath, you don't have to close it. To drag it, hold your cursor down on
the far left just under the little "close" dot.)
In the old Word 98 program, you could just hold the cursor down anywhere on
a
document and drag it anywhere you wanted. Microsoft "improved" the program
in
2004. When the document winds up behind the toolbar it cannot be moved until
you click "zoom" because the top of the document is inaccessible.
In the 2004 program, the "save" window covers the entire document, the
"find/replace" box jumps to the center of a page and will not stay where you
put it, and there is a lunatic feature of a button appearing at thepoint of
a change or drag and drop. You cannot disable the button feature, the button
sits on top of the changes and it will not disappear until you makea
keystroke somewhere in the document.
What "were" they thinking when they junked up the perfectly good (great)
Word
98, which, of course, will not run on OS X.
Thank you for replying to my "help me" post (and for letting me rant).
Patricia
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