How to import Outlook Express Address Book Groups and Folders to .

A

Andy Higgs

I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the folders and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
 
A

Andy Higgs

Thanks for this info.

Russ Valentine said:
You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Andy Higgs said:
I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import
the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the folders
and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?
 
A

Allen K in N.O.

Russ Valentine said:
You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Andy Higgs said:
I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import
the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the folders
and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?

This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the code for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into Outlook, your
stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing the use of OE. I
personally will continue to use OE for email and outlook for scheduling.
And that's a real PitA!
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the code
for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into Outlook, your
stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing the use of OE. I
personally will continue to use OE for email and outlook for scheduling.
And that's a real PitA!

Can you export to a CSV file and import? Move folder contents to the main
folder and import?
 
A

Atanas Daskalov

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Russ Valentine said:
You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Andy Higgs said:
I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly
arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this
into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import
the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the
folders
and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?

This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the code
for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into Outlook, your
stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing the use of OE. I
personally will continue to use OE for email and outlook for scheduling.
And that's a real PitA!
 
A

Atanas Daskalov

"Allen K in N.O." <Allen K in (e-mail address removed)> ÎÁÐÉÓÁ ×
ÓßÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ ÎÁ ÄÉÓËÕÓÉÏÎÎÁ
ÇÒÕÐÁ:[email protected]...
Russ Valentine said:
You can't.
You can only import the Contacts in the main Contacts Folder, not groups,
not subfolders.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Andy Higgs said:
I have a large number of address in my OE6 Address Book all neatly
arranged
in Folders and Groups for ease of mass mailing. How can I import this
into
Outlook 2000 that I have just started using. I have been able to import
the
contacts into my Outlook Contacts, but want them arranged in the
folders
and
groups as with OE6. Do I have to set this up all again?

This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the code
for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into Outlook, your
stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing the use of OE. I
personally will continue to use OE for email and outlook for scheduling.
And that's a real PitA!
 
B

Brian Tillman

Atanas Daskalov said:
This is so typical of MS. MS wrote the code for OE, they wrote the
code for
Outlook; but the left hand does not know what the right hand is
doing.

Do the other members in your family always know what you are doing or you
they? Of course not. How much moreso with a company with thousands of
employees who may not even be geographically near? Additionally, they'e
completely separate programs. Do you expect tho be able to open, say, a
Visio document with Notepad? Why not? Your argument should still apply.
Because you can not import OE/WAB entries into directly into
Outlook, your stuck with starting from scratch (again) or continuing
the use of OE. I personally will continue to use OE for email and
outlook for scheduling. And that's a real PitA!

It's also a PitA to use a screwdriver for driving screws and a saw for
cutting lumber, but you do it and you probhably don't complain.

I'm not completely unsympathetic to what you're saying, but I think your
expectations are somewhat unrealistic.
 
C

CymBa

Ok, so let me get this straight...
- The programs are called OUTLOOK and OUTLOOK Express.
- Outlook Express handles contacts and emails, OUTLOOK handles emails
contacts, scheduling etc
- They are both EMAIL programs made by the SAME company.
- Microsoft seems to market Outlook for corporate users and Outloo
Express for home users
- You can import your mail settings, email, contacts etc from Expres
using the import function of Outlook.
- Outlook has Distribution Lists which are somewhat analogous t
Groups in Outlook Express

HOWEVER, you're saying we're being UNREALISTIC to think that we ca
import Outlook Express Groups into Outlook Distribution Lists? I woul
think that Microsoft would just add the functionality as part of th
upgrade path when you buy Office. Now there MIGHT be TECHNICAL reaso
why they haven't done it but I don't see what it is right now. But
certainly dont think its unrealistic to expect that functionalit
considering the products.

And with regards to your analogy, VISIO is a high level technica
diagramming program. NOTEPAD is a simplistic text editor. They are tw
completely different programs with different uses. Outlook and Outloo
Express are BOTH EMAIL programs made by the same company and Outloo
Express has a subset of the functionality of OUTLOOK. So I'm sorry t
say but your analogy is greatly FLAWED
 
B

Brian Tillman

CymBa said:
Outlook and Outlook
Express are BOTH EMAIL programs made by the same company and Outlook
Express has a subset of the functionality of OUTLOOK. So I'm sorry to
say but your analogy is greatly FLAWED.

And your simplistic view of how large corporations work is flawed.
Microsoft has programming teams all over the world. Do you really think
they all share their ideas and designs with each other? You you realy think
that's even physically possible?
 
C

CymBa

First of all, to the consumer, its of absolutely no relevance how larg
corporations work. That's the corporations problem. The thing i
dispute here is whether or not we, as the consumers, are JUSTIFIED i
expecting 2 Microsoft applications that do basically the same thin
being able to share data. Whether Microsoft is a multi-national billio
dollar company or 2 ppl in a garage tapping away at a computer, WE a
the consumers would still have the same EXPECTATION. Outlook an
outlook express ALREADY share data, so why did they leave out groups?

Microsoft is RENOWNED for keeping its file formats etc to itself. Ye
funnily enough there are programs out there that can both READ an
WRITE microsoft files(office etc). There are programs that can conver
to and from various other formats including those used by Microsoft. S
if programmers who have NO contact with the MS programming teams aroun
the world as you put it can figure out how to get stuff like this don
then why shouldn't we expect two teams (as you say) in the SAME compan
to not do the same?

There are examples of disparate teams all over the world working o
different projects. Do you think all the Linux developers live in th
same town? Look at SourceForge http://sourceforge.net , thousands o
projects , thousands of people working on them from disparat
geographic regions. Heck , There are a number of software packages
some written by Microsoft (MS SourceSafe) itself that are supposed t
allow distributive code development. In this day and age geographi
location is of no consequence. I live in the Caribbean , yet being
software developer myself I work with systems and teams in the US
Finland and other Caribbean territories. THAT's the power of th
INTERNET, information exchange.

Microsoft itself SELLS a Group Collaboration Tool called Microsof
Sharepoin
(http://www.microsoft.com/office/sharepoint/prodinfo/overview.mspx
which, in THEIR OWN WORDS
"enables enterprises to develop an intelligent portal that seamlessl
connects users, teams, and knowledge so that people can take advantag
of relevant information across business processes to help them wor
more efficiently"

or what about ANOTHER Microsoft Product, LiveMeetin
(http://www.microsoft.com/office/livemeeting/prodinfo/default.mspx)
which "enables you to collaborate online with colleagues, customers
and partners in real time, in groups of two or even thousands—with jus
a PC, and an Internet connection."

Why should we use these products when , as you would have us believe
it can't be done?

Also, its not as if its a huge amount of data that would be required t
implement it either. All that would be needed is a document from th
Outlook Express Team outlining the format of their Contacts Group
implementation. This document should already exist as part of thei
project documentation anywayz and the relevant sections should be les
than 10 pages, if so long. So all they'd have to do is EMAIL i
(probably using Outlook hehe) to the OUTLOOK Team for them to add thei
existing import filter. End of story.

What I don't understand is why you're making excuses for something lik
this when in truth the critique is necessary for better products to com
forth. Who knows , maybe why its not possible is that no one at M
thought of it and it was an honest oversight; and those users wh
wanted it were content to sit on their laurels and say "oh, thats ho
big corporations are...".

The fact that we've accepted the mediocrity that Microsoft occasionall
puts out has resulted in it taking far too long for them to come to a
acceptable standard/solution.

Stop making excuses for mediocrity
 
B

Brian Tillman

CymBa said:
There are examples of disparate teams all over the world working on
different projects. Do you think all the Linux developers live in the
same town?

No, and that's why programs written for one flavor of Linux don't always
work on another flavor of Linux.
 
C

CymBa

There is only one LINUX. Linux kernel development is handled by Linu
Torvalds and his team whom are not in the same geographic area. The
then put the kernel up to be used by companies and individuals tha
create DISTRIBUTIONS or what u are referring to as 'flavours'.

Each company then decides what THEY want to put in their distro to giv
to THEIR target audience. So when a program doesn't work on a particula
distro its because the creator of the distro most likely didnt include
component or the right version that the program needs with it. Thi
component just needs to be downloaded and installed.

So the difference between distros comes about because those companie
chose NOT to collaborate. Not because they can't. There have bee
efforts to maintain a standard base distro from which all distro
derive and it works for awhile but what usually happens is that som
companies want to be able to differentiate themselves further and brea
the standard. But that's politics and business not because it
'physically impossible for the teams to collaborate' as u seem to wan
to suggest
 
B

Brian Tillman

CymBa said:
There is only one LINUX.

There is one Linux _kernel_. There are multiple flavors of Linux (Red Hat
Linux and Yellow Dog Linux are two) that have additional layers.

I'm not going to argue with you any more. We just have a different idea
about what's reasonable.
 

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