How to kill auto-sizing of PDF or JPG attachments?

[jul]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel
Email Client: pop

How can I get rid of the enoying Entourage auto-sizing function of PDF or JPG attachments?
PDFs sometimes are even turned 90 degree, so that a horizontal format becomes vertical!
I hate that automatic behaviour of Entourage 2008.
Entourage X I used before, did not do that!

 

[Diane Ross]

How can I get rid of the enoying Entourage auto-sizing function of PDF or JPG
attachments?
PDFs sometimes are even turned 90 degree, so that a horizontal format becomes
vertical!
I hate that automatic behaviour of Entourage 2008.
Entourage X I used before, did not do that!

I don't have a clue about this. Yours is the first report.

 

[jul]

Maybe I can precise my question:
When I send or receive a mail with attachment, f.e. a JPG or PDF with 1000px width, than Entourage 2008 shows the picture in about half size. A PDF 300mm width is shown turned 90 degree.
With my former Entourage X I didn't have this problem!
For me it is very important to see exactly that what I want to send or get, because I am used to send messages as PDF, so that the receiver gets exactly the layout I did, and that he can print exactly this!

 

[Diane Ross]

With my former Entourage X I didn't have this problem!

Another change is how Entourage 2008 deals with jpegs. Entourage 2008 will
not show jpgs in the message if they are over 400 kb.

As Ed explained. Open them to view. Entourage will not display an entire pdf
in a message so the user will have to open them to view.

 

[Barry Wainwright]

Maybe I can precise my question:
When I send or receive a mail with attachment, f.e. a JPG or PDF with 1000px width, than Entourage 2008 shows the picture in about half size. A PDF 300mm width is shown turned 90 degree.
With my former Entourage X I didn't have this problem!
For me it is very important to see exactly that what I want to send or get, because I am used to send messages as PDF, so that the receiver gets exactly the layout I did, and that he can print exactly this!

Regarding the size of the display, this is simply dictated by the size
of the window that you are viewing the message in - make the window wide
enough and the image will display full size. The size and resolution of
the image transmitted is not affected. How it is displayed at the other
end depends entirely on what they are using to view the message. HTML is
not a layout language, it is a mark up language. If you need precise
control over layout and presentation, HTML mail will not help you - the
display is determined by the recipient's system and applications, it is
not inherent in what you send.

I have never seen the issue with PDFs being rotated - that's a new one
on me.

 

[jul]

Another change is how Entourage 2008 deals with jpegs. Entourage 2008 will
not show jpgs in the message if they are over 400 kb.

As Ed explained. Open them to view. Entourage will not display an entire pdf
in a message so the user will have to open them to view.

Thank you, Diane.

What only is the use of this kind of behaviour of an email application ???

I want to use PDF, because I can do an exact layout for my newsletters!
I use it as an attachment, so that the receiver can look at it already in his mail preview window, and if he wants to save it or print it, he can use the PDF for that, too!
It is an easy and fast way to do!

That only the first page is shown, I know. It's bad, but with that I can live!
But as I recognize now, when I look at my former mails with attachments, that sometimes a PDF isn't shown at all, sometimes it is shown, and 2 times it is turned 90 degree!

What's that?

Do I really have to get back to my Enourage X ???
But what about other users of Entourage 2008 or Enourage for Windows - they will have the same problem, when they receive a PDF-Newsletter from me ?!?!?

I'm really annoyed of Microsoft Entourage 2008 !

So finally:
What do you suggest, is the best way to create a newsletter, which is layouted in Indesign, if not as a PDF?

 

[jul]

Regarding the size of the display, this is simply dictated by the size
of the window that you are viewing the message in - make the window wide
enough and the image will display full size. The size and resolution of
the image transmitted is not affected. How it is displayed at the other
end depends entirely on what they are using to view the message. HTML is
not a layout language, it is a mark up language. If you need precise
control over layout and presentation, HTML mail will not help you - the
display is determined by the recipient's system and applications, it is
not inherent in what you send.

I have never seen the issue with PDFs being rotated - that's a new one
on me.

Thank you, Barry.

What only is the use of this kind of behaviour of an email application ???

I want to use PDF, because I can do an exact layout for my newsletters!
I use it as an attachment, so that the receiver can look at it already in his mail preview window, and if he wants to save it or print it, he can use the PDF for that, too!
It is an easy and fast way to do!

That only the first page is shown, I know. It's bad, but with that I can live!
But as I recognize now, when I look at my former mails with attachments, that sometimes a PDF isn't shown at all, sometimes it is shown, and 2 times it is turned 90 degree!

What's that?

Do I really have to get back to my Enourage X ???
But what about other users of Entourage 2008 or Enourage for Windows - they will have the same problem, when they receive a PDF-Newsletter from me ?!?!?

I'm really annoyed of Microsoft Entourage 2008 !

So finally:
What do you suggest, is the best way to create a newsletter, which is layouted in Indesign, if not as a PDF?

 

[Barry Wainwright]

Thank you, Barry.

What only is the use of this kind of behaviour of an email application ???

I want to use PDF, because I can do an exact layout for my newsletters!
I use it as an attachment, so that the receiver can look at it already in his mail preview window, and if he wants to save it or print it, he can use the PDF for that, too!
It is an easy and fast way to do!

That only the first page is shown, I know. It's bad, but with that I can live!
But as I recognize now, when I look at my former mails with attachments, that sometimes a PDF isn't shown at all, sometimes it is shown, and 2 times it is turned 90 degree!

What's that?

Do I really have to get back to my Enourage X ???
But what about other users of Entourage 2008 or Enourage for Windows - they will have the same problem, when they receive a PDF-Newsletter from me ?!?!?

I'm really annoyed of Microsoft Entourage 2008 !

So finally:
What do you suggest, is the best way to create a newsletter, which is layouted in Indesign, if not as a PDF?

If the layout is critical then PDF is the best option. However, do not
rely on the display preview in Entourage or any other email application
to give you the correct view - to do that the recipient will have to
open the attachment in preview or adobe reader.

As an attachment, entourage is sending the file as it was created. How
that is displayed depends entirely on what the recipient uses - many
mail clients (especially on the windows platform) will not display a PDF
in line at all. other clients will display the same email differently
(as E08 & E04 appear to do)

To see your layout correctly displayed the recipient will have to open it.

 

[Diane Ross]

Do I really have to get back to my Enourage X ???
But what about other users of Entourage 2008 or Enourage for Windows - they
will have the same problem, when they receive a PDF-Newsletter from me ?!?!?

Just to reiterate what Barry has said. You have a misconception that viewing
in Entourage is what the recipient is going to see. Regardless of what
version of Entourage you are using, it will have no effect on what the
recipient will see.

So finally:
What do you suggest, is the best way to create a newsletter, which is layouted
in Indesign, if not as a PDF?

The pdf is fine, but there are third party option specifically designed to
create newsletters. There are several listed under Newsletters/personal mass
emails: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/xtras/third.html>