How to Rotate Text (free rotation)

[Gary]

I am writing a VB6 program which writes/creates a RTF file.
It includes writing all the codes and text to actually create the file,
including images, etc.
Up to this point, it works well.

Now I have identified a need to freely rotate text in the resultant
document.

To see how Word (2007) handles this, I have tried using a text box, but
rotation is dis-abled for this object.
I have used a shape, and placed text in it, but as soon as I rotate it, the
text moves out of the shape.

In my program, to solve this requirement, I am actually creating an image
(picturebox) with the rotated text in it,
then including that image as part of my RTF file. This DOES work.
But dammit, there must be a way to do it using Word's coding.

Any help, thoughts, ideas, code samples, etc..... please.

Thanks

 

[Jay Freedman]

I am writing a VB6 program which writes/creates a RTF file.
It includes writing all the codes and text to actually create the file,
including images, etc.
Up to this point, it works well.

Now I have identified a need to freely rotate text in the resultant
document.

To see how Word (2007) handles this, I have tried using a text box, but
rotation is dis-abled for this object.
I have used a shape, and placed text in it, but as soon as I rotate it, the
text moves out of the shape.

In my program, to solve this requirement, I am actually creating an image
(picturebox) with the rotated text in it,
then including that image as part of my RTF file. This DOES work.
But dammit, there must be a way to do it using Word's coding.

Any help, thoughts, ideas, code samples, etc..... please.

Thanks

You can try automating the sequence shown in the "Free rotation of text in Word
2002/3" section of http://www.gmayor.com/rotate_text.htm. AFAIK, nothing has
changed in this regard in Word 2007.

 

[The Dawntreader]

Jay, you wrote, "AFAIK, nothing has changed in this regard in Word 2007."

Jay, it's time to understand SOMETHING HAS CHANGED IN WORD 2007! Gary is
telling you something everyone knows and we are not real happy about this
loss of functionality.

We are trying to point out that you folks either overlooked something or you
aren't listening to us, YOUR CU$TOMER$!

You want us to tell you how to make Word (and other MS apps) better, then
you make excuses when we show you an error.

I'm not suggesting YOU did this, but we would GREATLY appreciate it if you
would take the initiative to send this in to [whomever] and get Word patched
so that it REALLY does work as you say and according to the instructions on
the MS "HOW TO" web pages.

Jay, we need you to get in the game and help fix this kind of stuff or we
may just find alternatives to your products. YOUR CU$OTMER$ don't need any
more stress than this world already puts us under.

Does that make any sense?

Appreciate that you are reading this. I hope something happens to fix it.
Just knowing it's on the list to be corrected would be a huge help.

Enjoy your day.

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Neither Jay, nor the vast majority of people who provide assistance in these
newsgroups, work for Microsoft.

Jay suggested one method, and provided a link to it, that the OP might be
able to use.

What is the link to the "MS "HOW TO" web page" to which you refer? For
clarity, by "you" in this instance I mean "The Dawntreader"

I have a hard time separating out where you "The Dawntreader" are referring
by the use of the word "you" to Jay Freedman or to some other entity,
presumably Microsoft.

If you "The Dawntreader" have thoughts about how Word might be improved, the
thing to do is sent them to (e-mail address removed)

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

Jay, you wrote, "AFAIK, nothing has changed in this regard in Word 2007."

Jay, it's time to understand SOMETHING HAS CHANGED IN WORD 2007! Gary is
telling you something everyone knows and we are not real happy about this
loss of functionality.

We are trying to point out that you folks either overlooked something or
you
aren't listening to us, YOUR CU$TOMER$!

You want us to tell you how to make Word (and other MS apps) better, then
you make excuses when we show you an error.

I'm not suggesting YOU did this, but we would GREATLY appreciate it if you
would take the initiative to send this in to [whomever] and get Word
patched
so that it REALLY does work as you say and according to the instructions
on
the MS "HOW TO" web pages.

Jay, we need you to get in the game and help fix this kind of stuff or we
may just find alternatives to your products. YOUR CU$OTMER$ don't need any
more stress than this world already puts us under.

Does that make any sense?

Appreciate that you are reading this. I hope something happens to fix it.
Just knowing it's on the list to be corrected would be a huge help.

Enjoy your day.

You can try automating the sequence shown in the "Free rotation of text
in Word
2002/3" section of http://www.gmayor.com/rotate_text.htm. AFAIK, nothing
has
changed in this regard in Word 2007.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so all may benefit.

 

[The Dawntreader]

Thanks for that clarification, Doug. My apologies to you and Jay.
Frustration won out over wisdom. I do appreciate your willingness to help
others. Believe that is noble (no kidding!).

I do participate by sending recommendations on how to improve these
applications, at least by way of requirements (I'm not a programmer), just so
you know. I was just hoping one of you highly unpaid MVPs might be able to
put the right words in the right ears to the the right things done! I know
you don't work for Microsoft; I wonder if that's what Mr. Gates thinks ....

BTW-my workaround for this particular missing feature is to use Publisher.
It experienced limited "improvements" in the 2007 package and most
functionalities still work as expected.

Keep going!

Neither Jay, nor the vast majority of people who provide assistance in these
newsgroups, work for Microsoft.

Jay suggested one method, and provided a link to it, that the OP might be
able to use.

What is the link to the "MS "HOW TO" web page" to which you refer? For
clarity, by "you" in this instance I mean "The Dawntreader"

I have a hard time separating out where you "The Dawntreader" are referring
by the use of the word "you" to Jay Freedman or to some other entity,
presumably Microsoft.

If you "The Dawntreader" have thoughts about how Word might be improved, the
thing to do is sent them to (e-mail address removed)

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

Jay, you wrote, "AFAIK, nothing has changed in this regard in Word 2007."

Jay, it's time to understand SOMETHING HAS CHANGED IN WORD 2007! Gary is
telling you something everyone knows and we are not real happy about this
loss of functionality.

We are trying to point out that you folks either overlooked something or
you
aren't listening to us, YOUR CU$TOMER$!

You want us to tell you how to make Word (and other MS apps) better, then
you make excuses when we show you an error.

I'm not suggesting YOU did this, but we would GREATLY appreciate it if you
would take the initiative to send this in to [whomever] and get Word
patched
so that it REALLY does work as you say and according to the instructions
on
the MS "HOW TO" web pages.

Jay, we need you to get in the game and help fix this kind of stuff or we
may just find alternatives to your products. YOUR CU$OTMER$ don't need any
more stress than this world already puts us under.

Does that make any sense?

Appreciate that you are reading this. I hope something happens to fix it.
Just knowing it's on the list to be corrected would be a huge help.

Enjoy your day.

I am writing a VB6 program which writes/creates a RTF file.
It includes writing all the codes and text to actually create the file,
including images, etc.
Up to this point, it works well.

Now I have identified a need to freely rotate text in the resultant
document.

To see how Word (2007) handles this, I have tried using a text box, but
rotation is dis-abled for this object.
I have used a shape, and placed text in it, but as soon as I rotate it,
the
text moves out of the shape.

In my program, to solve this requirement, I am actually creating an
image
(picturebox) with the rotated text in it,
then including that image as part of my RTF file. This DOES work.
But dammit, there must be a way to do it using Word's coding.

Any help, thoughts, ideas, code samples, etc..... please.

Thanks

You can try automating the sequence shown in the "Free rotation of text
in Word
2002/3" section of http://www.gmayor.com/rotate_text.htm. AFAIK, nothing
has
changed in this regard in Word 2007.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so all may benefit.

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Thanks. But we still do not know to what "MS "HOW TO" web page" you were
referring.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

Thanks for that clarification, Doug. My apologies to you and Jay.
Frustration won out over wisdom. I do appreciate your willingness to help
others. Believe that is noble (no kidding!).

I do participate by sending recommendations on how to improve these
applications, at least by way of requirements (I'm not a programmer), just
so
you know. I was just hoping one of you highly unpaid MVPs might be able
to
put the right words in the right ears to the the right things done! I know
you don't work for Microsoft; I wonder if that's what Mr. Gates thinks
....

BTW-my workaround for this particular missing feature is to use Publisher.
It experienced limited "improvements" in the 2007 package and most
functionalities still work as expected.

Keep going!

Neither Jay, nor the vast majority of people who provide assistance in
these
newsgroups, work for Microsoft.

Jay suggested one method, and provided a link to it, that the OP might be
able to use.

What is the link to the "MS "HOW TO" web page" to which you refer? For
clarity, by "you" in this instance I mean "The Dawntreader"

I have a hard time separating out where you "The Dawntreader" are
referring
by the use of the word "you" to Jay Freedman or to some other entity,
presumably Microsoft.

If you "The Dawntreader" have thoughts about how Word might be improved,
the
thing to do is sent them to (e-mail address removed)

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

Jay, you wrote, "AFAIK, nothing has changed in this regard in Word
2007."

Jay, it's time to understand SOMETHING HAS CHANGED IN WORD 2007! Gary
is
telling you something everyone knows and we are not real happy about
this
loss of functionality.

We are trying to point out that you folks either overlooked something
or
you
aren't listening to us, YOUR CU$TOMER$!

You want us to tell you how to make Word (and other MS apps) better,
then
you make excuses when we show you an error.

I'm not suggesting YOU did this, but we would GREATLY appreciate it if
you
would take the initiative to send this in to [whomever] and get Word
patched
so that it REALLY does work as you say and according to the
instructions
on
the MS "HOW TO" web pages.

Jay, we need you to get in the game and help fix this kind of stuff or
we
may just find alternatives to your products. YOUR CU$OTMER$ don't need
any
more stress than this world already puts us under.

Does that make any sense?

Appreciate that you are reading this. I hope something happens to fix
it.
Just knowing it's on the list to be corrected would be a huge help.

Enjoy your day.



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I am writing a VB6 program which writes/creates a RTF file.
It includes writing all the codes and text to actually create the
file,
including images, etc.
Up to this point, it works well.

Now I have identified a need to freely rotate text in the resultant
document.

To see how Word (2007) handles this, I have tried using a text box,
but
rotation is dis-abled for this object.
I have used a shape, and placed text in it, but as soon as I rotate
it,
the
text moves out of the shape.

In my program, to solve this requirement, I am actually creating an
image
(picturebox) with the rotated text in it,
then including that image as part of my RTF file. This DOES work.
But dammit, there must be a way to do it using Word's coding.

Any help, thoughts, ideas, code samples, etc..... please.

Thanks

You can try automating the sequence shown in the "Free rotation of
text
in Word
2002/3" section of http://www.gmayor.com/rotate_text.htm. AFAIK,
nothing
has
changed in this regard in Word 2007.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so all may benefit.

 

[helenb]

This is one MS site that mentions the routine for rotating text in a
shape which is broken in Word 2007 and which works very differently
than in Word 2003:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102403771033.aspx

There are, no doubt other pages which say the same (very confusing)
thing.

Helen Bradley

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

If it's text in a textbox that you are talking about, select the text box,
then use Ctrl+X, then Paste Special and paste it as a picture.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

 

[A Customer .]

I want to rotate a shape including its text. Is is clear? A shape and its
text, together. I don't cut and paste it (paste special) as a picture, A
SHAPE AND ITS TEXT TOGETHER. OK? Ctrl+X and then Paste Special and paste it
as a text is NOT the answer, it's just erasing the main question, and the
main question is: HOW I CAN ROTATE A SHAPE AND ITS TEXT, TOGETHER, NOT ONLY
THE SHAPE? AND I DON'T WANT TO PASTE IT SPECIAL. Did you understand SIR?

 

[Graham Mayor]

Answered in the other thread to which you posted this question.

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[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Wait a minute. I am not responsible for the software or any problems that
you have with it. All I did was give you a work-around for your problem.

You do not seem to understand that.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP