How To Set-up Page Size For Smaller Screens before Publishing

[Sloke]

I know you can view your site in an installed Browser at desired Resolution, etc. to see how it appears, BUT... How do I tell FrontPage the Screen-size, resolution, etc. to use before either building or publishing ??
My primary Computer is set at 1024x(?), I published the start of it, and it looked fine, but on a network computer of the same resolution, but only 17 inches, as oppossed to my own 19", it's too wide for the screen. How to reconcile
At another computer, with a 17" screen, I changed the resolution to 800x600, and built an empty multi-level site. When I preview in Browser at 800x600 it's OK.
When I view my Published structure (created at 1024 on the 19") on this 17", even at 1024, it is too wide. When I view in the Classic Netscape (same published site), it fits (although there are some formatting problems, etc)
Bottom Line: My Home-Office set-up uses dual 19" monitors; what do I need to do to make my FrontPage-based site viewable by those with smaller monitors, and lesser resolutions??
P.S. I'd also love to work at my normal resolutions; what would I need to do to make the site viewable by 800x600 monitors, and even smaller, laptop screens ??? Could I do anything with the HTML??

Please notify me by e-mail when posting a response; thank you very, very much.

 

[Steve Easton]

Set your monitor resolution to 800 by 600 and then design your site.


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This site is best viewed............
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I know you can view your site in an installed Browser at desired

Resolution, etc. to see how it appears, BUT... How do I tell FrontPage the
Screen-size, resolution, etc. to use before either building or publishing
???

My primary Computer is set at 1024x(?), I published the start of it, and

it looked fine, but on a network computer of the same resolution, but only
17 inches, as oppossed to my own 19", it's too wide for the screen. How to
reconcile?

At another computer, with a 17" screen, I changed the resolution to

800x600, and built an empty multi-level site. When I preview in Browser at
800x600 it's OK.

When I view my Published structure (created at 1024 on the 19") on this

17", even at 1024, it is too wide. When I view in the Classic Netscape
(same published site), it fits (although there are some formatting problems,
etc).

Bottom Line: My Home-Office set-up uses dual 19" monitors; what do I

need to do to make my FrontPage-based site viewable by those with smaller
monitors, and lesser resolutions???

P.S. I'd also love to work at my normal resolutions; what would I

need to do to make the site viewable by 800x600 monitors, and even smaller,
laptop screens ??? Could I do anything with the HTML???

 

[Bob Lehmann]

If the resolution is the same on both monitors the site will appear the
same. The physical dimensions of monitors have noting to do with it.

If you want to design for 800x600 resolution put your content in tables at
750px width. Or use table width of 100% which will create a whole new set of
problems.

Asked in the group, answered in the group - this isn't anyone's personal
Help Desk.

Bob Lehmann

I know you can view your site in an installed Browser at desired

Resolution, etc. to see how it appears, BUT... How do I tell FrontPage the
Screen-size, resolution, etc. to use before either building or publishing
???

My primary Computer is set at 1024x(?), I published the start of it, and

it looked fine, but on a network computer of the same resolution, but only
17 inches, as oppossed to my own 19", it's too wide for the screen. How to
reconcile?

At another computer, with a 17" screen, I changed the resolution to

800x600, and built an empty multi-level site. When I preview in Browser at
800x600 it's OK.

When I view my Published structure (created at 1024 on the 19") on this

17", even at 1024, it is too wide. When I view in the Classic Netscape
(same published site), it fits (although there are some formatting problems,
etc).

Bottom Line: My Home-Office set-up uses dual 19" monitors; what do I

need to do to make my FrontPage-based site viewable by those with smaller
monitors, and lesser resolutions???

P.S. I'd also love to work at my normal resolutions; what would I

need to do to make the site viewable by 800x600 monitors, and even smaller,
laptop screens ??? Could I do anything with the HTML???

 

[jfike]

I think what he is saying is, a 80 x 26 pixel button will appear larger on a 19" monitor than a 15" monitor, both at 800 x 600 resolution; ie: pixels per inch. There's not much one can do about that.

 

[Randy Birch]

Screen size and screen resolution are totally unrelated. A screen
resolution of 800x600 on a 17" monitor is precisely the same as on a 70"
monitor ... only the pixels are bigger. 800 pixels is 800 pixels. Period.


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Randy Birch
MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
Please respond only to the newsgroups so all can benefit.

 

[Jim Buyens]

The width of the browser window is the critical setting, because changing it
can make elements on your page move around. To cope with this, either:

Design you page inside a fixed-width HTML table. Set the table width based
on the narrowest browser window that will display the page without
horizontal scrolling.

For example, if you want a browser window set at 800x600 pixels to display
your page without horizontal scrolling, set the table width to 750 pixels
(to account for the window borders). The disadvantage of this is that:

o Visitors who set their browser width to less than 800 pixels will
need to scroll horizontally.
o Visitors who set their browser width to more than 800 pixels will
see blank space at the right of your page layout or, if you center the
table, at both sides of your page layout.

The other alternative is to design a "liquid" layout. Like the first method,
this uses an HTML table to organize and align your content, but in this case
you set the table width to 100%, and the column widths to percentages as
well. The composition will then grow or shrink to fit the browser width. The
disadvantages of this method are:

o It's more natural to design pages with a fixed layout in mind.
o You need to develop a sense of how various kinds of content
will change depending on available width.
o No page will look good at the extremes of browser width. The
same page can look got at browser widths of 800, 1024, and 1200,
but not at both 100 pixels and 2000 pixels wide.

The physical size of the monitor (i.e. 14", 17", 22") and its display
resolution (i.e. 800x600, 1024x768, or 1280x960) will make the Web page
appear larger or smaller, but this affects height and width proportionally,
and doesn't affect the placements of elements on the page.

I know you can view your site in an installed Browser at desired

Resolution, etc. to see how it appears, BUT... How do I tell FrontPage the
Screen-size, resolution, etc. to use before either building or publishing
???

My primary Computer is set at 1024x(?), I published the start of it, and

it looked fine, but on a network computer of the same resolution, but only
17 inches, as oppossed to my own 19", it's too wide for the screen. How to
reconcile?

At another computer, with a 17" screen, I changed the resolution to

800x600, and built an empty multi-level site. When I preview in Browser at
800x600 it's OK.

When I view my Published structure (created at 1024 on the 19") on this

17", even at 1024, it is too wide. When I view in the Classic Netscape
(same published site), it fits (although there are some formatting problems,
etc).

Bottom Line: My Home-Office set-up uses dual 19" monitors; what do I

need to do to make my FrontPage-based site viewable by those with smaller
monitors, and lesser resolutions???

P.S. I'd also love to work at my normal resolutions; what would I

need to do to make the site viewable by 800x600 monitors, and even smaller,
laptop screens ??? Could I do anything with the HTML???

 

[Andre Rodziewicz]

You can also get a fairly accurate idea of what your page width will
look like at various screen resolutions. In page view in FP2000: File

Preview in Browser and then click the radio button for whichever

resolution you are designing for. You may want to use 800 x 600,
which covers most users.

Andre Rodziewicz
WimbledonVisitor.Com
Helping your business reach the world
The Wimbledon Business Directory
Search Engine Optimisation and Web Design
http://www.wimbledonvisitor.com/products

 

[Sloke]

Bob Lehman, Please see my response-posting concerning the "Personal Help Desk". Sorry for mis-understanding
NOTE...Please see Jim Buyen's concerning monitor width problems

And, Thank you

----- Bob Lehmann wrote: ----

If the resolution is the same on both monitors the site will appear th
same. The physical dimensions of monitors have noting to do with it

If you want to design for 800x600 resolution put your content in tables a
750px width. Or use table width of 100% which will create a whole new set o
problems

Asked in the group, answered in the group - this isn't anyone's persona
Help Desk

Bob Lehman

I know you can view your site in an installed Browser at desire

Resolution, etc. to see how it appears, BUT... How do I tell FrontPage th
Screen-size, resolution, etc. to use before either building or publishin
??

My primary Computer is set at 1024x(?), I published the start of it, an

it looked fine, but on a network computer of the same resolution, but onl
17 inches, as oppossed to my own 19", it's too wide for the screen. How t
reconcile

At another computer, with a 17" screen, I changed the resolution t

800x600, and built an empty multi-level site. When I preview in Browser a
800x600 it's OK

When I view my Published structure (created at 1024 on the 19") on thi

17", even at 1024, it is too wide. When I view in the Classic Netscap
(same published site), it fits (although there are some formatting problems
etc)

Bottom Line: My Home-Office set-up uses dual 19" monitors; what do

need to do to make my FrontPage-based site viewable by those with smalle
monitors, and lesser resolutions??need to do to make the site viewable by 800x600 monitors, and even smaller
laptop screens ??? Could I do anything with the HTML??

 

[Sloke]

Thank you, but please see Jim Buyens response. Monitor width is a problem

----- Steve Easton wrote: ----

Set your monitor resolution to 800 by 600 and then design your site


--
Steve Easto
Microsoft MVP FrontPag
95isaliv
This site is best viewed...........
........................with a compute

I know you can view your site in an installed Browser at desire

Resolution, etc. to see how it appears, BUT... How do I tell FrontPage th
Screen-size, resolution, etc. to use before either building or publishin
??

My primary Computer is set at 1024x(?), I published the start of it, an

it looked fine, but on a network computer of the same resolution, but onl
17 inches, as oppossed to my own 19", it's too wide for the screen. How t
reconcile

At another computer, with a 17" screen, I changed the resolution t

800x600, and built an empty multi-level site. When I preview in Browser a
800x600 it's OK

When I view my Published structure (created at 1024 on the 19") on thi

17", even at 1024, it is too wide. When I view in the Classic Netscap
(same published site), it fits (although there are some formatting problems
etc)

Bottom Line: My Home-Office set-up uses dual 19" monitors; what do

need to do to make my FrontPage-based site viewable by those with smalle
monitors, and lesser resolutions??need to do to make the site viewable by 800x600 monitors, and even smaller
laptop screens ??? Could I do anything with the HTML??

 

[Sloke]

But please see the other responses, especially Jim Buyen's

----- Randy Birch wrote: ----

Screen size and screen resolution are totally unrelated. A screen
resolution of 800x600 on a 17" monitor is precisely the same as on a 70"
monitor ... only the pixels are bigger. 800 pixels is 800 pixels. Period


--

Randy Birc
MVP Visual Basi
http://vbnet.mvps.org
Please respond only to the newsgroups so all can benefit

 

[Bob Lehmann]

It looks to me that he said the same - but, in greater detail. I don't think
you understand the difference between monitor size and resolution.

Bob Lehmann

Bob Lehman, Please see my response-posting concerning the "Personal

Help Desk". Sorry for mis-understanding.

 

[Stuart]

You can also get a fairly accurate idea of what your page width will
look like at various screen resolutions. In page view in FP2000: File
resolution you are designing for. You may want to use 800 x 600,
which covers most users.

then again ~a half serious thought~ forget the width - fix the depth
and make it a width scrolling page!! with screen size tables ~
sure don't want to be reading lengthways ~ but for blocks of text and
images ~ hey why not~ who said vertical scrolling has to be the
norm! break out and be adventurious! radical ` and swim against the
current.

heaven knows how such a page would print though~~` ') Hmmmm ~~~` but
!! isnt the net supposed to be the big paperless world~?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Do you really want to scroll to the right to read a line, and then have
scroll back to the left to start reading the next line and so on?

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[John]

Checkout a webdeveloper's site www.nordev.com.....Mark's been overcoming this problem by turning lemons into lemon-aid for years. He builds his sites much smaller than usual within the screen and improves load time while doing it. He continually wins awards for his work. A lot of new sites are springing up with the same structure lately. It's all about delivering the message effectively. Another site which does this, the destination site that gets the most hits on earth www.londontown.com is no small player it keeps it's physical size down for fast loads as well. There are advantages.

 

[Sloke]

Then please explain it to me..
A Site I created on a 19" monitor set at 1024x?, is too wide on my network computer of 17", set at 1024 (same make/year). Personally, I am beginning to like your idea (and you're right, Jim Buyens' breaks down to the same thing) of the Table (creating my own static Template page-layout) set-up at 750 pixels page-width
I'm not a Web designer, although I dabbled with HTML out of curiosity in the past. But I need to get a decent site to inform and promote (as well as interact with visitors) about our recently formed small group working as Independents in Systems Solutions. I'm only about 6-months into FrontPage 2000, and just beginning with 2003; when time permits. So, thank you.

----- Bob Lehmann wrote: ----

It looks to me that he said the same - but, in greater detail. I don't thin
you understand the difference between monitor size and resolution

Bob Lehman

Bob Lehman, Please see my response-posting concerning the "Persona

Help Desk". Sorry for mis-understanding

 

[Sloke]

What a WILD idea. Just think of what it would look like, if it works. And, actually, more than paperless, this whole technology is suppossed to be about innovation and creativity. You may have hit on a new "Disruptive Technology"
Take Care, and thank you

----- Stuart wrote: ----

You can also get a fairly accurate idea of what your page width wil
look like at various screen resolutions. In page view in FP2000: Fil
resolution you are designing for. You may want to use 800 x 600
which covers most users

then again ~a half serious thought~ forget the width - fix the dept
and make it a width scrolling page!! with screen size tables
sure don't want to be reading lengthways ~ but for blocks of text an
images ~ hey why not~ who said vertical scrolling has to be th
norm! break out and be adventurious! radical ` and swim against th
current
:
heaven knows how such a page would print though~~` ') Hmmmm ~~~` bu
!! isnt the net supposed to be the big paperless world~