How to use CDO to delete copy of messages on POP3 Server?

R

Rui Feng

Hi all.

My Outlook 2003 retrieves emails from a POP3 server. I set to "Leave a copy
of messages on the server" and "Remove from server when deleted from
'Deleted Items'". I wrote a COM Add-in using VC++ 6.0

When recieved a new mail from certain sender, I can catch the
ItemAdd event and use CDO Message->Delete() to permanently delete that
new email. But the email has not been deleted from the POP3 server.

I guess there is a looking-up table in Outlook. When I delete an Email in
"Deleted Items Folder", Outlook find ID of that email and set a value. It
uses that value to notify the POP3 server next time to delete corresponding
email
with the same ID on the server.

I think maybe CDO doesn't tell Outlook that "an email was deleted and please
tell
POP3 Server to delete the copy when connected next time".

Is that true and how to solve it? If you can do it using other programming
language
like VB please tell me anyway.

Thank you. :)
 
D

Dmitry Streblechenko

Outlook stores the list of the message ids in a hidden message
(PR_MESSAGE_CLASS = "IPM.MessageManager") in the Inbox.
However there is no way to tell the POP3 provider in Outlook to delete a
particular message from a POP3 server.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool
 
R

Rui Feng

So do you think CDO "Message.Delete" method does not delete (maybe forget to
delete) message ids in that hidden message? If this is true, can my add-in
access that hidden message in the Inbox and delete ids?

Thank you.

Dmitry Streblechenko said:
Outlook stores the list of the message ids in a hidden message
(PR_MESSAGE_CLASS = "IPM.MessageManager") in the Inbox.
However there is no way to tell the POP3 provider in Outlook to delete a
particular message from a POP3 server.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool
 
D

Dmitry Streblechenko

No, it does not delete the message id.
Yes, you can access the list of message ids. If you are using CDO 1.21, use
the Folder.HiddenMessages to find the corresponding message. Look at the
hidden messages with OutlookSpy (click IMAPIFolder, go to the "Associated
Contents" tab) or MFCMAPI.
I don't see however how that will help you - if you delete that message id,
POP3 provider will assume that it is a new message and download it again.
This is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
So do you think CDO "Message.Delete" method does not delete (maybe forget
to
delete) message ids in that hidden message? If this is true, can my add-in
access that hidden message in the Inbox and delete ids?

Thank you.
 
R

Rui Feng

Thank you MVP. I use your OutlookSpy and it's great!

I find the hidden message and find Outlook stores message ids (UIDL) getting
from POP3 Server in the attachments of that hidden message. The names of
attachments are Blobxxxxxxxx (8 x), Restagsxxxxxxxx (also 8 x),
Deletedxxxxxxxx (also 8 x). There are 3 Blob files, 3 Restags files, and 3
Deleted files, because I have 3 POP3 accounts. Then I have some questions and
need your help.

1. Since I have 3 POP3 accounts, how do I know which Blob, Restags, Deleted
files belong to each of my account?

2. I know the UIDL id stores in Blob file. When I permanently delete a
message, Outlook add its UIDL to Deleted file. I think when logons to POP3
server next time, Outlook will read Deleted file and send DELE command to
POP3 server. If my COM Add-in could add UIDL to Deleted file (in the hidden
message) when permanently deleted a message, Outlook would send DELE command
to POP3 server and delete copy of the message. The first thing I have to do
is get UIDL. I cannot find where UIDL was stored. Is there any relation
between EntryID and UIDL? It's easy to get EntryID.

You are an excellent expert in this area and and I believe you can find a
good way. And I really really really need your help. :)

Thank you so much!
 
R

Rui Feng

Now I find the place where the message stores the UIDL message ids.

Using OutlookSpy, selete a message, then click IMessage button. In "Property
Tag" list of "GetProps" tab, 0x8016 (|ID=0x8f01) is UIDL message ids. The
BINARY value can be parsed to "POP://xxxxxxxx".

I use CDO and OOM and have not used MAPI yet. Do you think using MAPI is the
only way to get this value? Could you give me some example of using MAPI?

I googled and found your another article which said to add these lines:
#define INITGUID
#include <objbase.h>

#define USES_IID_IMessage

#include <mapix.h>
#include <mapitags.h>
#include <mapidefs.h>
#include <mapiutil.h>
#include <mapiguid.h>

These are codes in my program:
CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown); // point to a message
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

I get two link errors:
error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _IID_IMessage
fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals

Could you tell me how to resolve it? Thank you. :)
 
R

Rui Feng

I've written this and it works:

CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown);
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

SPropTagArray Array;
LPSPropTagArray lpArray = &Array;
lpArray->cValues = 1;
lpArray->aulPropTag[0] = 0x80160102;

ULONG FAR lpcValues;
LPSPropValue lppPropArray;
HRESULT hr = spIMessage->GetProps(lpArray, NULL, &lpcValues, &lppPropArray);

int nStrCount = lppPropArray->Value.bin.cb;
_bstr_t bstrPOPString((wchar_t *)lppPropArray->Value.bin.lpb);
char * cPOPString = bstrPOPString;
ATLTRACE("POPSTRING = %s\n", cPOPString);

I do not forget to free them like this:
MAPIFreeBuffer((void *)lpcValues);
MAPIFreeBuffer(lppPropArray);

The UIDL message id have been stored in bstrPOPString. The next step is to
add it to the corresponding attachment of hidden message. I don't know how to
find the exact attachment because I have 3 "Deletedxxxxxxxx" files.

I cannot get its property tag like PR_XXXXXX style because it has no name in
MAPITAGS.H file. Instead, I use 0x80160102 directly. Do you think its
property tag is different in other computers installed Outlook 2003?

Thank you.
 
D

Dmitry Streblechenko

You cannot hardcode the property tag; it is a named property, you must call
IMessage::GetIDsFromNames first.
I don't know how those messages are mapped to the accounts, sorry. Did you
try to see if anything is available through the IOlkAccountManager (you can
access it through Misc | IOlkAccountManager in OutlookSpy)?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
I've written this and it works:

CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown);
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

SPropTagArray Array;
LPSPropTagArray lpArray = &Array;
lpArray->cValues = 1;
lpArray->aulPropTag[0] = 0x80160102;

ULONG FAR lpcValues;
LPSPropValue lppPropArray;
HRESULT hr = spIMessage->GetProps(lpArray, NULL, &lpcValues,
&lppPropArray);

int nStrCount = lppPropArray->Value.bin.cb;
_bstr_t bstrPOPString((wchar_t *)lppPropArray->Value.bin.lpb);
char * cPOPString = bstrPOPString;
ATLTRACE("POPSTRING = %s\n", cPOPString);

I do not forget to free them like this:
MAPIFreeBuffer((void *)lpcValues);
MAPIFreeBuffer(lppPropArray);

The UIDL message id have been stored in bstrPOPString. The next step is to
add it to the corresponding attachment of hidden message. I don't know how
to
find the exact attachment because I have 3 "Deletedxxxxxxxx" files.

I cannot get its property tag like PR_XXXXXX style because it has no name
in
MAPITAGS.H file. Instead, I use 0x80160102 directly. Do you think its
property tag is different in other computers installed Outlook 2003?

Thank you.


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
No, it does not delete the message id.
Yes, you can access the list of message ids. If you are using CDO 1.21,
use
the Folder.HiddenMessages to find the corresponding message. Look at the
hidden messages with OutlookSpy (click IMAPIFolder, go to the "Associated
Contents" tab) or MFCMAPI.
I don't see however how that will help you - if you delete that message
id,
POP3 provider will assume that it is a new message and download it again.
This is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool
 
R

Rui Feng

I have got the whole relations of UIDL message id, attachment file name of
the hidden message, and POP Account ID! And I have got the values in my
program. Thanks for your great OutlookSpy!

Select a message --> IMessage --> GetProps --> Property Tag == 0x8013
The first 8 number of 0x8013 value is POP Account ID. It's HEX and must be
changed to DEC.

In the same window, the value whose Property Tag is equle to "0x8016
(|ID=0x8f01)" is the UIDL message id.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager
PROP_ACCT_ID is the POP Account ID got from IMessage.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager --> select an account and click "FindAccount"
The pVar of dwProp whose value is equal to "PT_LONG, 0x0003" is the
attachment file ID of the hidden file. For example, my value is "2192694955".
When changed to HEX, it will be "82b1deab". So the attachment file names of
hidden message in Inbox are "Blob82b1deab", "Restags82b1deab" and
"Deleted82b1deab".

What I have to do now is to add the UIDL message id to the attachment file
whose name is "Deleted82b1deab". Could you tell me how to add something in an
attachment using CDO?

Thank you and have a good day! :)


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
You cannot hardcode the property tag; it is a named property, you must call
IMessage::GetIDsFromNames first.
I don't know how those messages are mapped to the accounts, sorry. Did you
try to see if anything is available through the IOlkAccountManager (you can
access it through Misc | IOlkAccountManager in OutlookSpy)?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
I've written this and it works:

CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown);
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

SPropTagArray Array;
LPSPropTagArray lpArray = &Array;
lpArray->cValues = 1;
lpArray->aulPropTag[0] = 0x80160102;

ULONG FAR lpcValues;
LPSPropValue lppPropArray;
HRESULT hr = spIMessage->GetProps(lpArray, NULL, &lpcValues,
&lppPropArray);

int nStrCount = lppPropArray->Value.bin.cb;
_bstr_t bstrPOPString((wchar_t *)lppPropArray->Value.bin.lpb);
char * cPOPString = bstrPOPString;
ATLTRACE("POPSTRING = %s\n", cPOPString);

I do not forget to free them like this:
MAPIFreeBuffer((void *)lpcValues);
MAPIFreeBuffer(lppPropArray);

The UIDL message id have been stored in bstrPOPString. The next step is to
add it to the corresponding attachment of hidden message. I don't know how
to
find the exact attachment because I have 3 "Deletedxxxxxxxx" files.

I cannot get its property tag like PR_XXXXXX style because it has no name
in
MAPITAGS.H file. Instead, I use 0x80160102 directly. Do you think its
property tag is different in other computers installed Outlook 2003?

Thank you.


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
No, it does not delete the message id.
Yes, you can access the list of message ids. If you are using CDO 1.21,
use
the Folder.HiddenMessages to find the corresponding message. Look at the
hidden messages with OutlookSpy (click IMAPIFolder, go to the "Associated
Contents" tab) or MFCMAPI.
I don't see however how that will help you - if you delete that message
id,
POP3 provider will assume that it is a new message and download it again.
This is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

So do you think CDO "Message.Delete" method does not delete (maybe
forget
to
delete) message ids in that hidden message? If this is true, can my
add-in
access that hidden message in the Inbox and delete ids?

Thank you.

:

Outlook stores the list of the message ids in a hidden message
(PR_MESSAGE_CLASS = "IPM.MessageManager") in the Inbox.
However there is no way to tell the POP3 provider in Outlook to delete
a
particular message from a POP3 server.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Hi all.

My Outlook 2003 retrieves emails from a POP3 server. I set to "Leave
a
copy
of messages on the server" and "Remove from server when deleted from
'Deleted Items'". I wrote a COM Add-in using VC++ 6.0

When recieved a new mail from certain sender, I can catch the
ItemAdd event and use CDO Message->Delete() to permanently delete
that
new email. But the email has not been deleted from the POP3 server.

I guess there is a looking-up table in Outlook. When I delete an
Email
in
"Deleted Items Folder", Outlook find ID of that email and set a
value.
It
uses that value to notify the POP3 server next time to delete
corresponding
email
with the same ID on the server.

I think maybe CDO doesn't tell Outlook that "an email was deleted
and
please
tell
POP3 Server to delete the copy when connected next time".

Is that true and how to solve it? If you can do it using other
programming
language
like VB please tell me anyway.

Thank you. :)
 
D

Dmitry Streblechenko

CDO does nott allow to modify the attachment data directly, so you wowuld
need to save the attachment as a file, modify it, delete the old attachment,
add the new one.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
I have got the whole relations of UIDL message id, attachment file name of
the hidden message, and POP Account ID! And I have got the values in my
program. Thanks for your great OutlookSpy!

Select a message --> IMessage --> GetProps --> Property Tag == 0x8013
The first 8 number of 0x8013 value is POP Account ID. It's HEX and must be
changed to DEC.

In the same window, the value whose Property Tag is equle to "0x8016
(|ID=0x8f01)" is the UIDL message id.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager
PROP_ACCT_ID is the POP Account ID got from IMessage.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager --> select an account and click "FindAccount"
The pVar of dwProp whose value is equal to "PT_LONG, 0x0003" is the
attachment file ID of the hidden file. For example, my value is
"2192694955".
When changed to HEX, it will be "82b1deab". So the attachment file names
of
hidden message in Inbox are "Blob82b1deab", "Restags82b1deab" and
"Deleted82b1deab".

What I have to do now is to add the UIDL message id to the attachment file
whose name is "Deleted82b1deab". Could you tell me how to add something in
an
attachment using CDO?

Thank you and have a good day! :)


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
You cannot hardcode the property tag; it is a named property, you must
call
IMessage::GetIDsFromNames first.
I don't know how those messages are mapped to the accounts, sorry. Did
you
try to see if anything is available through the IOlkAccountManager (you
can
access it through Misc | IOlkAccountManager in OutlookSpy)?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
I've written this and it works:

CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown);
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

SPropTagArray Array;
LPSPropTagArray lpArray = &Array;
lpArray->cValues = 1;
lpArray->aulPropTag[0] = 0x80160102;

ULONG FAR lpcValues;
LPSPropValue lppPropArray;
HRESULT hr = spIMessage->GetProps(lpArray, NULL, &lpcValues,
&lppPropArray);

int nStrCount = lppPropArray->Value.bin.cb;
_bstr_t bstrPOPString((wchar_t *)lppPropArray->Value.bin.lpb);
char * cPOPString = bstrPOPString;
ATLTRACE("POPSTRING = %s\n", cPOPString);

I do not forget to free them like this:
MAPIFreeBuffer((void *)lpcValues);
MAPIFreeBuffer(lppPropArray);

The UIDL message id have been stored in bstrPOPString. The next step is
to
add it to the corresponding attachment of hidden message. I don't know
how
to
find the exact attachment because I have 3 "Deletedxxxxxxxx" files.

I cannot get its property tag like PR_XXXXXX style because it has no
name
in
MAPITAGS.H file. Instead, I use 0x80160102 directly. Do you think its
property tag is different in other computers installed Outlook 2003?

Thank you.


:

No, it does not delete the message id.
Yes, you can access the list of message ids. If you are using CDO
1.21,
use
the Folder.HiddenMessages to find the corresponding message. Look at
the
hidden messages with OutlookSpy (click IMAPIFolder, go to the
"Associated
Contents" tab) or MFCMAPI.
I don't see however how that will help you - if you delete that
message
id,
POP3 provider will assume that it is a new message and download it
again.
This is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

So do you think CDO "Message.Delete" method does not delete (maybe
forget
to
delete) message ids in that hidden message? If this is true, can my
add-in
access that hidden message in the Inbox and delete ids?

Thank you.

:

Outlook stores the list of the message ids in a hidden message
(PR_MESSAGE_CLASS = "IPM.MessageManager") in the Inbox.
However there is no way to tell the POP3 provider in Outlook to
delete
a
particular message from a POP3 server.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Hi all.

My Outlook 2003 retrieves emails from a POP3 server. I set to
"Leave
a
copy
of messages on the server" and "Remove from server when deleted
from
'Deleted Items'". I wrote a COM Add-in using VC++ 6.0

When recieved a new mail from certain sender, I can catch the
ItemAdd event and use CDO Message->Delete() to permanently delete
that
new email. But the email has not been deleted from the POP3
server.

I guess there is a looking-up table in Outlook. When I delete an
Email
in
"Deleted Items Folder", Outlook find ID of that email and set a
value.
It
uses that value to notify the POP3 server next time to delete
corresponding
email
with the same ID on the server.

I think maybe CDO doesn't tell Outlook that "an email was deleted
and
please
tell
POP3 Server to delete the copy when connected next time".

Is that true and how to solve it? If you can do it using other
programming
language
like VB please tell me anyway.

Thank you. :)
 
R

Rui Feng

Dear MVP,

When I delete an email using CDO delete() method, I use
Attachment::WriteToFile, Attachment::ReadFromFile, and Message::Update() to
modify the "Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment of the hidden message successfully.
But when I synchronize my POP3 account with POP3 server, the copy of message
is not deleted in POP3 server.

I guess there is a flag to tell Outlook whether read "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment. If I delete a message in Inbox and then delete it permanently in
the "Deleted Item Box", Outlook stores the UID in the "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment of hidden message, and sets the flag. When synchronizing with POP3
Server, Outlook reads the flag and knows that some messages have been
permanently deleted. So Outlook starts to read "Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment
and gets the UID.

But when my add-in adds UID to that attachment, it does not set the flag, so
Outlook does not know if anything has changed and does not read that
attachment.

I have searched the whole values using OutlookSpy but could not find the
flag. Could you tell me what happened when synchronizing with POP3 Server,
which flag or value should I modify, and how to tell Outlook to read the
"Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment of hidden message in Inbox when synchronizing
with POP3 Server? This is the last step to achieve the goal. :)

Thank you so much!

----------
Rui Feng
Beijing, China


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
CDO does nott allow to modify the attachment data directly, so you wowuld
need to save the attachment as a file, modify it, delete the old attachment,
add the new one.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
I have got the whole relations of UIDL message id, attachment file name of
the hidden message, and POP Account ID! And I have got the values in my
program. Thanks for your great OutlookSpy!

Select a message --> IMessage --> GetProps --> Property Tag == 0x8013
The first 8 number of 0x8013 value is POP Account ID. It's HEX and must be
changed to DEC.

In the same window, the value whose Property Tag is equle to "0x8016
(|ID=0x8f01)" is the UIDL message id.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager
PROP_ACCT_ID is the POP Account ID got from IMessage.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager --> select an account and click "FindAccount"
The pVar of dwProp whose value is equal to "PT_LONG, 0x0003" is the
attachment file ID of the hidden file. For example, my value is
"2192694955".
When changed to HEX, it will be "82b1deab". So the attachment file names
of
hidden message in Inbox are "Blob82b1deab", "Restags82b1deab" and
"Deleted82b1deab".

What I have to do now is to add the UIDL message id to the attachment file
whose name is "Deleted82b1deab". Could you tell me how to add something in
an
attachment using CDO?

Thank you and have a good day! :)


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
You cannot hardcode the property tag; it is a named property, you must
call
IMessage::GetIDsFromNames first.
I don't know how those messages are mapped to the accounts, sorry. Did
you
try to see if anything is available through the IOlkAccountManager (you
can
access it through Misc | IOlkAccountManager in OutlookSpy)?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

I've written this and it works:

CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown);
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

SPropTagArray Array;
LPSPropTagArray lpArray = &Array;
lpArray->cValues = 1;
lpArray->aulPropTag[0] = 0x80160102;

ULONG FAR lpcValues;
LPSPropValue lppPropArray;
HRESULT hr = spIMessage->GetProps(lpArray, NULL, &lpcValues,
&lppPropArray);

int nStrCount = lppPropArray->Value.bin.cb;
_bstr_t bstrPOPString((wchar_t *)lppPropArray->Value.bin.lpb);
char * cPOPString = bstrPOPString;
ATLTRACE("POPSTRING = %s\n", cPOPString);

I do not forget to free them like this:
MAPIFreeBuffer((void *)lpcValues);
MAPIFreeBuffer(lppPropArray);

The UIDL message id have been stored in bstrPOPString. The next step is
to
add it to the corresponding attachment of hidden message. I don't know
how
to
find the exact attachment because I have 3 "Deletedxxxxxxxx" files.

I cannot get its property tag like PR_XXXXXX style because it has no
name
in
MAPITAGS.H file. Instead, I use 0x80160102 directly. Do you think its
property tag is different in other computers installed Outlook 2003?

Thank you.


:

No, it does not delete the message id.
Yes, you can access the list of message ids. If you are using CDO
1.21,
use
the Folder.HiddenMessages to find the corresponding message. Look at
the
hidden messages with OutlookSpy (click IMAPIFolder, go to the
"Associated
Contents" tab) or MFCMAPI.
I don't see however how that will help you - if you delete that
message
id,
POP3 provider will assume that it is a new message and download it
again.
This is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

So do you think CDO "Message.Delete" method does not delete (maybe
forget
to
delete) message ids in that hidden message? If this is true, can my
add-in
access that hidden message in the Inbox and delete ids?

Thank you.

:

Outlook stores the list of the message ids in a hidden message
(PR_MESSAGE_CLASS = "IPM.MessageManager") in the Inbox.
However there is no way to tell the POP3 provider in Outlook to
delete
a
particular message from a POP3 server.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Hi all.

My Outlook 2003 retrieves emails from a POP3 server. I set to
"Leave
a
copy
of messages on the server" and "Remove from server when deleted
from
'Deleted Items'". I wrote a COM Add-in using VC++ 6.0

When recieved a new mail from certain sender, I can catch the
ItemAdd event and use CDO Message->Delete() to permanently delete
that
new email. But the email has not been deleted from the POP3
server.

I guess there is a looking-up table in Outlook. When I delete an
Email
in
"Deleted Items Folder", Outlook find ID of that email and set a
value.
It
uses that value to notify the POP3 server next time to delete
corresponding
email
with the same ID on the server.

I think maybe CDO doesn't tell Outlook that "an email was deleted
and
please
tell
POP3 Server to delete the copy when connected next time".

Is that true and how to solve it? If you can do it using other
programming
language
like VB please tell me anyway.

Thank you. :)
 
D

Dmitry Streblechenko

I have no idea, sorry.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
Dear MVP,

When I delete an email using CDO delete() method, I use
Attachment::WriteToFile, Attachment::ReadFromFile, and Message::Update()
to
modify the "Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment of the hidden message
successfully.
But when I synchronize my POP3 account with POP3 server, the copy of
message
is not deleted in POP3 server.

I guess there is a flag to tell Outlook whether read "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment. If I delete a message in Inbox and then delete it permanently
in
the "Deleted Item Box", Outlook stores the UID in the "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment of hidden message, and sets the flag. When synchronizing with
POP3
Server, Outlook reads the flag and knows that some messages have been
permanently deleted. So Outlook starts to read "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment
and gets the UID.

But when my add-in adds UID to that attachment, it does not set the flag,
so
Outlook does not know if anything has changed and does not read that
attachment.

I have searched the whole values using OutlookSpy but could not find the
flag. Could you tell me what happened when synchronizing with POP3 Server,
which flag or value should I modify, and how to tell Outlook to read the
"Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment of hidden message in Inbox when synchronizing
with POP3 Server? This is the last step to achieve the goal. :)

Thank you so much!

----------
Rui Feng
Beijing, China


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
CDO does nott allow to modify the attachment data directly, so you wowuld
need to save the attachment as a file, modify it, delete the old
attachment,
add the new one.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
I have got the whole relations of UIDL message id, attachment file name
of
the hidden message, and POP Account ID! And I have got the values in my
program. Thanks for your great OutlookSpy!

Select a message --> IMessage --> GetProps --> Property Tag == 0x8013
The first 8 number of 0x8013 value is POP Account ID. It's HEX and must
be
changed to DEC.

In the same window, the value whose Property Tag is equle to "0x8016
(|ID=0x8f01)" is the UIDL message id.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager
PROP_ACCT_ID is the POP Account ID got from IMessage.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager --> select an account and click
"FindAccount"
The pVar of dwProp whose value is equal to "PT_LONG, 0x0003" is the
attachment file ID of the hidden file. For example, my value is
"2192694955".
When changed to HEX, it will be "82b1deab". So the attachment file
names
of
hidden message in Inbox are "Blob82b1deab", "Restags82b1deab" and
"Deleted82b1deab".

What I have to do now is to add the UIDL message id to the attachment
file
whose name is "Deleted82b1deab". Could you tell me how to add something
in
an
attachment using CDO?

Thank you and have a good day! :)


:

You cannot hardcode the property tag; it is a named property, you must
call
IMessage::GetIDsFromNames first.
I don't know how those messages are mapped to the accounts, sorry. Did
you
try to see if anything is available through the IOlkAccountManager
(you
can
access it through Misc | IOlkAccountManager in OutlookSpy)?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

I've written this and it works:

CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown);
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

SPropTagArray Array;
LPSPropTagArray lpArray = &Array;
lpArray->cValues = 1;
lpArray->aulPropTag[0] = 0x80160102;

ULONG FAR lpcValues;
LPSPropValue lppPropArray;
HRESULT hr = spIMessage->GetProps(lpArray, NULL, &lpcValues,
&lppPropArray);

int nStrCount = lppPropArray->Value.bin.cb;
_bstr_t bstrPOPString((wchar_t *)lppPropArray->Value.bin.lpb);
char * cPOPString = bstrPOPString;
ATLTRACE("POPSTRING = %s\n", cPOPString);

I do not forget to free them like this:
MAPIFreeBuffer((void *)lpcValues);
MAPIFreeBuffer(lppPropArray);

The UIDL message id have been stored in bstrPOPString. The next step
is
to
add it to the corresponding attachment of hidden message. I don't
know
how
to
find the exact attachment because I have 3 "Deletedxxxxxxxx" files.

I cannot get its property tag like PR_XXXXXX style because it has no
name
in
MAPITAGS.H file. Instead, I use 0x80160102 directly. Do you think
its
property tag is different in other computers installed Outlook 2003?

Thank you.


:

No, it does not delete the message id.
Yes, you can access the list of message ids. If you are using CDO
1.21,
use
the Folder.HiddenMessages to find the corresponding message. Look
at
the
hidden messages with OutlookSpy (click IMAPIFolder, go to the
"Associated
Contents" tab) or MFCMAPI.
I don't see however how that will help you - if you delete that
message
id,
POP3 provider will assume that it is a new message and download it
again.
This is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

So do you think CDO "Message.Delete" method does not delete
(maybe
forget
to
delete) message ids in that hidden message? If this is true, can
my
add-in
access that hidden message in the Inbox and delete ids?

Thank you.

:

Outlook stores the list of the message ids in a hidden message
(PR_MESSAGE_CLASS = "IPM.MessageManager") in the Inbox.
However there is no way to tell the POP3 provider in Outlook to
delete
a
particular message from a POP3 server.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Hi all.

My Outlook 2003 retrieves emails from a POP3 server. I set to
"Leave
a
copy
of messages on the server" and "Remove from server when
deleted
from
'Deleted Items'". I wrote a COM Add-in using VC++ 6.0

When recieved a new mail from certain sender, I can catch the
ItemAdd event and use CDO Message->Delete() to permanently
delete
that
new email. But the email has not been deleted from the POP3
server.

I guess there is a looking-up table in Outlook. When I delete
an
Email
in
"Deleted Items Folder", Outlook find ID of that email and set
a
value.
It
uses that value to notify the POP3 server next time to delete
corresponding
email
with the same ID on the server.

I think maybe CDO doesn't tell Outlook that "an email was
deleted
and
please
tell
POP3 Server to delete the copy when connected next time".

Is that true and how to solve it? If you can do it using other
programming
language
like VB please tell me anyway.

Thank you. :)
 
R

Rui Feng

Dear MVP,

Could you please help me to check this function in the source code of
Outlook? It's quite important for me to delete the copy of POP3 server.

Thank you!

Rui Feng


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
I have no idea, sorry.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
Dear MVP,

When I delete an email using CDO delete() method, I use
Attachment::WriteToFile, Attachment::ReadFromFile, and Message::Update()
to
modify the "Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment of the hidden message
successfully.
But when I synchronize my POP3 account with POP3 server, the copy of
message
is not deleted in POP3 server.

I guess there is a flag to tell Outlook whether read "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment. If I delete a message in Inbox and then delete it permanently
in
the "Deleted Item Box", Outlook stores the UID in the "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment of hidden message, and sets the flag. When synchronizing with
POP3
Server, Outlook reads the flag and knows that some messages have been
permanently deleted. So Outlook starts to read "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment
and gets the UID.

But when my add-in adds UID to that attachment, it does not set the flag,
so
Outlook does not know if anything has changed and does not read that
attachment.

I have searched the whole values using OutlookSpy but could not find the
flag. Could you tell me what happened when synchronizing with POP3 Server,
which flag or value should I modify, and how to tell Outlook to read the
"Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment of hidden message in Inbox when synchronizing
with POP3 Server? This is the last step to achieve the goal. :)

Thank you so much!

----------
Rui Feng
Beijing, China


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
CDO does nott allow to modify the attachment data directly, so you wowuld
need to save the attachment as a file, modify it, delete the old
attachment,
add the new one.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

I have got the whole relations of UIDL message id, attachment file name
of
the hidden message, and POP Account ID! And I have got the values in my
program. Thanks for your great OutlookSpy!

Select a message --> IMessage --> GetProps --> Property Tag == 0x8013
The first 8 number of 0x8013 value is POP Account ID. It's HEX and must
be
changed to DEC.

In the same window, the value whose Property Tag is equle to "0x8016
(|ID=0x8f01)" is the UIDL message id.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager
PROP_ACCT_ID is the POP Account ID got from IMessage.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager --> select an account and click
"FindAccount"
The pVar of dwProp whose value is equal to "PT_LONG, 0x0003" is the
attachment file ID of the hidden file. For example, my value is
"2192694955".
When changed to HEX, it will be "82b1deab". So the attachment file
names
of
hidden message in Inbox are "Blob82b1deab", "Restags82b1deab" and
"Deleted82b1deab".

What I have to do now is to add the UIDL message id to the attachment
file
whose name is "Deleted82b1deab". Could you tell me how to add something
in
an
attachment using CDO?

Thank you and have a good day! :)


:

You cannot hardcode the property tag; it is a named property, you must
call
IMessage::GetIDsFromNames first.
I don't know how those messages are mapped to the accounts, sorry. Did
you
try to see if anything is available through the IOlkAccountManager
(you
can
access it through Misc | IOlkAccountManager in OutlookSpy)?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

I've written this and it works:

CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown);
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

SPropTagArray Array;
LPSPropTagArray lpArray = &Array;
lpArray->cValues = 1;
lpArray->aulPropTag[0] = 0x80160102;

ULONG FAR lpcValues;
LPSPropValue lppPropArray;
HRESULT hr = spIMessage->GetProps(lpArray, NULL, &lpcValues,
&lppPropArray);

int nStrCount = lppPropArray->Value.bin.cb;
_bstr_t bstrPOPString((wchar_t *)lppPropArray->Value.bin.lpb);
char * cPOPString = bstrPOPString;
ATLTRACE("POPSTRING = %s\n", cPOPString);

I do not forget to free them like this:
MAPIFreeBuffer((void *)lpcValues);
MAPIFreeBuffer(lppPropArray);

The UIDL message id have been stored in bstrPOPString. The next step
is
to
add it to the corresponding attachment of hidden message. I don't
know
how
to
find the exact attachment because I have 3 "Deletedxxxxxxxx" files.

I cannot get its property tag like PR_XXXXXX style because it has no
name
in
MAPITAGS.H file. Instead, I use 0x80160102 directly. Do you think
its
property tag is different in other computers installed Outlook 2003?

Thank you.


:

No, it does not delete the message id.
Yes, you can access the list of message ids. If you are using CDO
1.21,
use
the Folder.HiddenMessages to find the corresponding message. Look
at
the
hidden messages with OutlookSpy (click IMAPIFolder, go to the
"Associated
Contents" tab) or MFCMAPI.
I don't see however how that will help you - if you delete that
message
id,
POP3 provider will assume that it is a new message and download it
again.
This is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

So do you think CDO "Message.Delete" method does not delete
(maybe
forget
to
delete) message ids in that hidden message? If this is true, can
my
add-in
access that hidden message in the Inbox and delete ids?

Thank you.

:

Outlook stores the list of the message ids in a hidden message
(PR_MESSAGE_CLASS = "IPM.MessageManager") in the Inbox.
However there is no way to tell the POP3 provider in Outlook to
delete
a
particular message from a POP3 server.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Hi all.

My Outlook 2003 retrieves emails from a POP3 server. I set to
"Leave
a
copy
of messages on the server" and "Remove from server when
deleted
from
'Deleted Items'". I wrote a COM Add-in using VC++ 6.0

When recieved a new mail from certain sender, I can catch the
ItemAdd event and use CDO Message->Delete() to permanently
delete
that
new email. But the email has not been deleted from the POP3
server.

I guess there is a looking-up table in Outlook. When I delete
an
Email
in
"Deleted Items Folder", Outlook find ID of that email and set
a
value.
It
uses that value to notify the POP3 server next time to delete
corresponding
email
with the same ID on the server.

I think maybe CDO doesn't tell Outlook that "an email was
deleted
and
please
tell
POP3 Server to delete the copy when connected next time".

Is that true and how to solve it? If you can do it using other
programming
language
like VB please tell me anyway.

Thank you. :)
 
D

Dmitry Streblechenko

I wish I had access to the Outlook source code. Unfortunately I don't...
Just to clear any possible misconceptions, MVPs are non-paid volunteers, we
are not employed or paid by MS.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
Dear MVP,

Could you please help me to check this function in the source code of
Outlook? It's quite important for me to delete the copy of POP3 server.

Thank you!

Rui Feng


Dmitry Streblechenko said:
I have no idea, sorry.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

Rui Feng said:
Dear MVP,

When I delete an email using CDO delete() method, I use
Attachment::WriteToFile, Attachment::ReadFromFile, and
Message::Update()
to
modify the "Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment of the hidden message
successfully.
But when I synchronize my POP3 account with POP3 server, the copy of
message
is not deleted in POP3 server.

I guess there is a flag to tell Outlook whether read "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment. If I delete a message in Inbox and then delete it
permanently
in
the "Deleted Item Box", Outlook stores the UID in the "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment of hidden message, and sets the flag. When synchronizing
with
POP3
Server, Outlook reads the flag and knows that some messages have been
permanently deleted. So Outlook starts to read "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
attachment
and gets the UID.

But when my add-in adds UID to that attachment, it does not set the
flag,
so
Outlook does not know if anything has changed and does not read that
attachment.

I have searched the whole values using OutlookSpy but could not find
the
flag. Could you tell me what happened when synchronizing with POP3
Server,
which flag or value should I modify, and how to tell Outlook to read
the
"Deletedxxxxxxxx" attachment of hidden message in Inbox when
synchronizing
with POP3 Server? This is the last step to achieve the goal. :)

Thank you so much!

----------
Rui Feng
Beijing, China


:

CDO does nott allow to modify the attachment data directly, so you
wowuld
need to save the attachment as a file, modify it, delete the old
attachment,
add the new one.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

I have got the whole relations of UIDL message id, attachment file
name
of
the hidden message, and POP Account ID! And I have got the values in
my
program. Thanks for your great OutlookSpy!

Select a message --> IMessage --> GetProps --> Property Tag ==
0x8013
The first 8 number of 0x8013 value is POP Account ID. It's HEX and
must
be
changed to DEC.

In the same window, the value whose Property Tag is equle to "0x8016
(|ID=0x8f01)" is the UIDL message id.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager
PROP_ACCT_ID is the POP Account ID got from IMessage.

Misc --> IOlkAccountManager --> select an account and click
"FindAccount"
The pVar of dwProp whose value is equal to "PT_LONG, 0x0003" is the
attachment file ID of the hidden file. For example, my value is
"2192694955".
When changed to HEX, it will be "82b1deab". So the attachment file
names
of
hidden message in Inbox are "Blob82b1deab", "Restags82b1deab" and
"Deleted82b1deab".

What I have to do now is to add the UIDL message id to the
attachment
file
whose name is "Deleted82b1deab". Could you tell me how to add
something
in
an
attachment using CDO?

Thank you and have a good day! :)


:

You cannot hardcode the property tag; it is a named property, you
must
call
IMessage::GetIDsFromNames first.
I don't know how those messages are mapped to the accounts, sorry.
Did
you
try to see if anything is available through the IOlkAccountManager
(you
can
access it through Misc | IOlkAccountManager in OutlookSpy)?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

I've written this and it works:

CComPtr < IUnknown > spUnknown;
CComPtr < IMessage > spIMessage;
spNewMail->get_MAPIOBJECT(&spUnknown);
spUnknown->QueryInterface(IID_IMessage, (void **)&spIMessage);

SPropTagArray Array;
LPSPropTagArray lpArray = &Array;
lpArray->cValues = 1;
lpArray->aulPropTag[0] = 0x80160102;

ULONG FAR lpcValues;
LPSPropValue lppPropArray;
HRESULT hr = spIMessage->GetProps(lpArray, NULL, &lpcValues,
&lppPropArray);

int nStrCount = lppPropArray->Value.bin.cb;
_bstr_t bstrPOPString((wchar_t *)lppPropArray->Value.bin.lpb);
char * cPOPString = bstrPOPString;
ATLTRACE("POPSTRING = %s\n", cPOPString);

I do not forget to free them like this:
MAPIFreeBuffer((void *)lpcValues);
MAPIFreeBuffer(lppPropArray);

The UIDL message id have been stored in bstrPOPString. The next
step
is
to
add it to the corresponding attachment of hidden message. I don't
know
how
to
find the exact attachment because I have 3 "Deletedxxxxxxxx"
files.

I cannot get its property tag like PR_XXXXXX style because it has
no
name
in
MAPITAGS.H file. Instead, I use 0x80160102 directly. Do you think
its
property tag is different in other computers installed Outlook
2003?

Thank you.


:

No, it does not delete the message id.
Yes, you can access the list of message ids. If you are using
CDO
1.21,
use
the Folder.HiddenMessages to find the corresponding message.
Look
at
the
hidden messages with OutlookSpy (click IMAPIFolder, go to the
"Associated
Contents" tab) or MFCMAPI.
I don't see however how that will help you - if you delete that
message
id,
POP3 provider will assume that it is a new message and download
it
again.
This is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

So do you think CDO "Message.Delete" method does not delete
(maybe
forget
to
delete) message ids in that hidden message? If this is true,
can
my
add-in
access that hidden message in the Inbox and delete ids?

Thank you.

:

Outlook stores the list of the message ids in a hidden
message
(PR_MESSAGE_CLASS = "IPM.MessageManager") in the Inbox.
However there is no way to tell the POP3 provider in Outlook
to
delete
a
particular message from a POP3 server.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

message
Hi all.

My Outlook 2003 retrieves emails from a POP3 server. I set
to
"Leave
a
copy
of messages on the server" and "Remove from server when
deleted
from
'Deleted Items'". I wrote a COM Add-in using VC++ 6.0

When recieved a new mail from certain sender, I can catch
the
ItemAdd event and use CDO Message->Delete() to permanently
delete
that
new email. But the email has not been deleted from the POP3
server.

I guess there is a looking-up table in Outlook. When I
delete
an
Email
in
"Deleted Items Folder", Outlook find ID of that email and
set
a
value.
It
uses that value to notify the POP3 server next time to
delete
corresponding
email
with the same ID on the server.

I think maybe CDO doesn't tell Outlook that "an email was
deleted
and
please
tell
POP3 Server to delete the copy when connected next time".

Is that true and how to solve it? If you can do it using
other
programming
language
like VB please tell me anyway.

Thank you. :)
 

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