hyperlinks

M

msweeks

I have created a web site using Publisher 2003, and while the hyperlinks work
in the web document, they do not work when published to the FTP site. I have
transferred all the files into the FTP site, but the hyperlinks still do not
work. I am extremely frustrated and have spent three days trying to figure
this out. How do I fix this?
 
A

analog

David, I have never used Publisher 2003, but I am puzzled about something. Why
do users have so much trouble with using it to publish to the web? This
poster's problem turns up in here constantly. You never hear such complaints
about 2000, or even about 2002. What's the reason for this?
 
D

David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]

Probably 90% of the time the issue is the sub-folder that was introduced in
2002. The customer has no clue that everything other then the home page went
to a sub-folder, there is nothing to tell them this. This is a really big
hurdle for someone coming from 2000 to grasp.
The reason this is even a problem is because probably 90% of customers have
no clue that Publisher will upload the site. They all use a separate upload
client. And in doing so don't grab the sub-folder. If Publisher is used to
upload, as is the intent by design, the sub-folder is not an issue because
Publisher knows what to upload. It's when the customer takes on the burden
of needing to know what to upload that the issue comes in.
This has been a big topic since the release of 2002. The reason it may
appear the issue is becoming more common now is I believe because of the
apparent fact that a majority of customers skipped over the 2002 version.
I've definitely been seeing that trend, 2000 users having skipped 2002 now
going to 2003.
And that's a big jump when you consider the degree of changes in the 2002
version and then add on the 2003 changes. I'd put that on par with a
FrontPage 98 user moving to FP 2003.
I myself don't view the sub-folder as a problem or the real issue, the real
problem is that the customer doesn't know to upload the web using Publisher.
Once they know that then everything else falls into place. Of course this is
an education problem. To some degree this is a customer failure because if
the customer goes to Help in Publisher and searches on 'publish' the
information is there. And to some degree it's a lack of publications on the
product. I think the last time I saw a book on Publisher that even covered a
web publication it was showing how to upload the web files using the Web
Publishing Wizard (which is now deprecated).
Indeed the recent articles I have authored for Techtrax -
http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax.asp - have been on this subject, the March
2004 issue covers FTP, and the October 2004 issue covers HTTP. And I believe
that the publishers of the Office website have also done such articles.

As for the other 10% ( these numbers are imo btw) that is typically a
customer that is framing their site which creates issues with the relative
links written by Publisher.
 
M

msweeks

Thanks, David. I found your articles on Publishing to the web using
Publisher 2003 in Tech Trax. If I can't figure it out after I read through
them, I'll send you the URL.

Many thanks.


David Bartosik said:
The FAQ - http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 - covers the
typical mistakes. Look that over and if you can't figure it out then post
back the site URL for review.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

msweeks said:
I have created a web site using Publisher 2003, and while the hyperlinks
work
in the web document, they do not work when published to the FTP site. I
have
transferred all the files into the FTP site, but the hyperlinks still do
not
work. I am extremely frustrated and have spent three days trying to
figure
this out. How do I fix this?
 
M

msweeks

Okay -- I give up. I have read everything, tried everything, hyperlinks do
not work. I cannot publish directly to the FTP site as I get a message
saying cannot connect to the computer titled lisa (name of the FTP site). I
created a web folder and publish to that, then transfer that to the FTP site.
All the files are there. The URL address is 64.176.231.151.
David Bartosik said:
The FAQ - http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 - covers the
typical mistakes. Look that over and if you can't figure it out then post
back the site URL for review.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

msweeks said:
I have created a web site using Publisher 2003, and while the hyperlinks
work
in the web document, they do not work when published to the FTP site. I
have
transferred all the files into the FTP site, but the hyperlinks still do
not
work. I am extremely frustrated and have spent three days trying to
figure
this out. How do I fix this?
 
D

David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]

I view and navigate this site with no issues.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

msweeks said:
Okay -- I give up. I have read everything, tried everything, hyperlinks
do
not work. I cannot publish directly to the FTP site as I get a message
saying cannot connect to the computer titled lisa (name of the FTP site).
I
created a web folder and publish to that, then transfer that to the FTP
site.
All the files are there. The URL address is 64.176.231.151.
David Bartosik said:
The FAQ - http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 - covers the
typical mistakes. Look that over and if you can't figure it out then post
back the site URL for review.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

msweeks said:
I have created a web site using Publisher 2003, and while the hyperlinks
work
in the web document, they do not work when published to the FTP site.
I
have
transferred all the files into the FTP site, but the hyperlinks still
do
not
work. I am extremely frustrated and have spent three days trying to
figure
this out. How do I fix this?
 
M

msweeks

Why won't the hyperlinks work then?

David Bartosik said:
I view and navigate this site with no issues.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

msweeks said:
Okay -- I give up. I have read everything, tried everything, hyperlinks
do
not work. I cannot publish directly to the FTP site as I get a message
saying cannot connect to the computer titled lisa (name of the FTP site).
I
created a web folder and publish to that, then transfer that to the FTP
site.
All the files are there. The URL address is 64.176.231.151.
David Bartosik said:
The FAQ - http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 - covers the
typical mistakes. Look that over and if you can't figure it out then post
back the site URL for review.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have created a web site using Publisher 2003, and while the hyperlinks
work
in the web document, they do not work when published to the FTP site.
I
have
transferred all the files into the FTP site, but the hyperlinks still
do
not
work. I am extremely frustrated and have spent three days trying to
figure
this out. How do I fix this?
 
D

DavidF

I too went to your site, and as David Bartosik have no problems with your
nav bar links, or a link I tried within a text box. Perhaps you need to
repost more details on what links don't work for you. DavidF

msweeks said:
Why won't the hyperlinks work then?

David Bartosik said:
I view and navigate this site with no issues.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

msweeks said:
Okay -- I give up. I have read everything, tried everything, hyperlinks
do
not work. I cannot publish directly to the FTP site as I get a message
saying cannot connect to the computer titled lisa (name of the FTP site).
I
created a web folder and publish to that, then transfer that to the FTP
site.
All the files are there. The URL address is 64.176.231.151.
:

The FAQ - http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 - covers the
typical mistakes. Look that over and if you can't figure it out then post
back the site URL for review.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have created a web site using Publisher 2003, and while the hyperlinks
work
in the web document, they do not work when published to the FTP site.
I
have
transferred all the files into the FTP site, but the hyperlinks still
do
not
work. I am extremely frustrated and have spent three days trying to
figure
this out. How do I fix this?
 
M

msweeks

Hi David F and David B:

The links that don't work are linked to other files on my computer: the
Final Report and Master Schedule on the Program Manager page (page 4), all
the minutes and agenda links on the Authority Meetings page (page 7), the
Site Plan and Floor Plan on the Site and Facilities page (page 8), and the
2004 Construction Budget and FY2004-2005 Administrative Budget on the Budgets
page (page 10). I have tried pointing them directly to the files in the ftp
as my web provider suggested, but that doesn't work either and also it
doesn't allow me to preview the links in the Publisher document. I tried
publishing directly to the ftp site instead of the web folder, but that
didn't work either. I'm sure it's got to be something probably simple and
stupid, but I've tried everything.

Thanks for all your help.

DavidF said:
I too went to your site, and as David Bartosik have no problems with your
nav bar links, or a link I tried within a text box. Perhaps you need to
repost more details on what links don't work for you. DavidF

msweeks said:
Why won't the hyperlinks work then?

David Bartosik said:
I view and navigate this site with no issues.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Okay -- I give up. I have read everything, tried everything, hyperlinks
do
not work. I cannot publish directly to the FTP site as I get a message
saying cannot connect to the computer titled lisa (name of the FTP site).
I
created a web folder and publish to that, then transfer that to the FTP
site.
All the files are there. The URL address is 64.176.231.151.
:

The FAQ - http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 - covers the
typical mistakes. Look that over and if you can't figure it out then post
back the site URL for review.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have created a web site using Publisher 2003, and while the hyperlinks
work
in the web document, they do not work when published to the FTP site.
I
have
transferred all the files into the FTP site, but the hyperlinks still
do
not
work. I am extremely frustrated and have spent three days trying to
figure
this out. How do I fix this?
 
D

David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]

Most of this is covered in FAQ's on the FAQ page -
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 - but I'll try and spell
it out here...

If you have a file, such as "My Weebles Wobble.doc", that is called an
external file.

Meaning it is external to the site files that Publisher generates from a web
publication.

Critical things to know when dealing with external files...

- they are External, you can't test in web preview.

- you must upload them to the web server yourself, Publisher (post 2000)
will not grab it.

- URL's don't support embedded spaces! Rename external files for online use.

- it is recommended practice to ALWAYS use lower-case naming for online
files.

( following the above two points proper online naming for the aforementioned
example would be:
myweebleswobble.doc
or
my_weebles_wobble.doc
or
file1.doc)

- in the publication page hyperlink write the full URL of the external file
on your server.

- NEVER use the Master Page in a web publication.


David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com
 

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