Images missing from themed Nav bar: _derived folder problem?

[Barry]

Images/graphics are missing from my interactive Nav-bar. see subsequent
pages on www.powerperfector(SPAMREMOVE).com
The Nav bar comes from a Theme, and it's only the pressed images that are
missing. I'm using FP 2003.

From previous posts here, I've tried :
- displaying hidden files, but _derived folder doesn't show (other hidden
folders do eg _borders, but not _derived ?)
- updated the images in the theme, then reapplied it to all the pages
- recalculated hyperlinks (both locally, and on the remote site)
- re-publishing the site (all pages, and then just changed pages); then
looking at the log file.
- 'exploring' the remote _derived folder - where some images are present,
even though they were not listed in the above log file ! but the missing
images are not there.
- I got my ISP to remove, then re-install the FP extensions, then I did all
of the above again.

If I publish the site to my local machine it all works fine.
I could presumably use explorer to compare the local/remote _derived
folders, then ftp missing images to the remote server, but I understand this
would wreck FP the functionality of FP extensions thereafter.

Incidentally, I searched MS knowlege base - and didn't find a single ref to
"_derived"! - shame.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Open your site in FP
Delete all _overlay folders
Select View Navigation and make a change (to anything)
Then run Tool Recalculate Hyperlinks
FP should regenerate all the _overlay files and from them the hidden _derived files

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


| Images/graphics are missing from my interactive Nav-bar. see subsequent
| pages on www.powerperfector(SPAMREMOVE).com
| The Nav bar comes from a Theme, and it's only the pressed images that are
| missing. I'm using FP 2003.
|
| From previous posts here, I've tried :
| - displaying hidden files, but _derived folder doesn't show (other hidden
| folders do eg _borders, but not _derived ?)
| - updated the images in the theme, then reapplied it to all the pages
| - recalculated hyperlinks (both locally, and on the remote site)
| - re-publishing the site (all pages, and then just changed pages); then
| looking at the log file.
| - 'exploring' the remote _derived folder - where some images are present,
| even though they were not listed in the above log file ! but the missing
| images are not there.
| - I got my ISP to remove, then re-install the FP extensions, then I did all
| of the above again.
|
| If I publish the site to my local machine it all works fine.
| I could presumably use explorer to compare the local/remote _derived
| folders, then ftp missing images to the remote server, but I understand this
| would wreck FP the functionality of FP extensions thereafter.
|
| Incidentally, I searched MS knowlege base - and didn't find a single ref to
| "_derived"! - shame.
| --
| Thanks ... Barry

 

[Barry]

Thanks for you input..
Should I open the LOCAL file... (do what you suggest) ...and then upload it,
or open the REMOTE file?

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

You can do it in local and then publish ALL
- if that doesn't work do it in remote

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


| Thanks for you input..
| Should I open the LOCAL file... (do what you suggest) ...and then upload it,
| or open the REMOTE file?
| --
| Thanks ... Barry
|
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Open your site in FP
| > Delete all _overlay folders
| > Select View Navigation and make a change (to anything)
| > Then run Tool Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > FP should regenerate all the _overlay files and from them the hidden _derived files
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | Images/graphics are missing from my interactive Nav-bar. see subsequent
| > | pages on www.powerperfector(SPAMREMOVE).com
| > | The Nav bar comes from a Theme, and it's only the pressed images that are
| > | missing. I'm using FP 2003.
| > |
| > | From previous posts here, I've tried :
| > | - displaying hidden files, but _derived folder doesn't show (other hidden
| > | folders do eg _borders, but not _derived ?)
| > | - updated the images in the theme, then reapplied it to all the pages
| > | - recalculated hyperlinks (both locally, and on the remote site)
| > | - re-publishing the site (all pages, and then just changed pages); then
| > | looking at the log file.
| > | - 'exploring' the remote _derived folder - where some images are present,
| > | even though they were not listed in the above log file ! but the missing
| > | images are not there.
| > | - I got my ISP to remove, then re-install the FP extensions, then I did all
| > | of the above again.
| > |
| > | If I publish the site to my local machine it all works fine.
| > | I could presumably use explorer to compare the local/remote _derived
| > | folders, then ftp missing images to the remote server, but I understand this
| > | would wreck FP the functionality of FP extensions thereafter.
| > |
| > | Incidentally, I searched MS knowlege base - and didn't find a single ref to
| > | "_derived"! - shame.
| > | --
| > | Thanks ... Barry
| >
| >
| >

 

[Barry]

Tried both, in the order you suggested.
ALso tried removing and replacing shared borders.
Also tried replacing the 3 images in the theme, then applying the changed
theme.
The new images do display, but the pressed images are still missing from
_dervied & therefore don't display.

It all works OK if I publish locally.
Does anyon know what creates _derived locally (presumably not FP extns) and
what creates it remotely (I presume FP extns).
What version of FP Extns should be running on the server?
How do I find out what version is ruuning?

--
Thanks ... Barry

You can do it in local and then publish ALL
- if that doesn't work do it in remote

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


| Thanks for you input..
| Should I open the LOCAL file... (do what you suggest) ...and then upload it,
| or open the REMOTE file?
| --
| Thanks ... Barry
|
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Open your site in FP
| > Delete all _overlay folders
| > Select View Navigation and make a change (to anything)
| > Then run Tool Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > FP should regenerate all the _overlay files and from them the hidden _derived files
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | Images/graphics are missing from my interactive Nav-bar. see subsequent
| > | pages on www.powerperfector(SPAMREMOVE).com
| > | The Nav bar comes from a Theme, and it's only the pressed images that are
| > | missing. I'm using FP 2003.
| > |
| > | From previous posts here, I've tried :
| > | - displaying hidden files, but _derived folder doesn't show (other hidden
| > | folders do eg _borders, but not _derived ?)
| > | - updated the images in the theme, then reapplied it to all the pages
| > | - recalculated hyperlinks (both locally, and on the remote site)
| > | - re-publishing the site (all pages, and then just changed pages); then
| > | looking at the log file.
| > | - 'exploring' the remote _derived folder - where some images are present,
| > | even though they were not listed in the above log file ! but the missing
| > | images are not there.
| > | - I got my ISP to remove, then re-install the FP extensions, then I did all
| > | of the above again.
| > |
| > | If I publish the site to my local machine it all works fine.
| > | I could presumably use explorer to compare the local/remote _derived
| > | folders, then ftp missing images to the remote server, but I understand this
| > | would wreck FP the functionality of FP extensions thereafter.
| > |
| > | Incidentally, I searched MS knowlege base - and didn't find a single ref to
| > | "_derived"! - shame.
| > | --
| > | Thanks ... Barry
| >
| >
| >

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

_derived content is generated from _overlay content by the FP SE
(both locally and when you publish)
Even when running a disk based web you are running a subset of the FP SE

Try opening your live site in FP and doing it there

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


| Tried both, in the order you suggested.
| ALso tried removing and replacing shared borders.
| Also tried replacing the 3 images in the theme, then applying the changed
| theme.
| The new images do display, but the pressed images are still missing from
| _dervied & therefore don't display.
|
| It all works OK if I publish locally.
| Does anyon know what creates _derived locally (presumably not FP extns) and
| what creates it remotely (I presume FP extns).
| What version of FP Extns should be running on the server?
| How do I find out what version is ruuning?
|
| --
| Thanks ... Barry
|
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > You can do it in local and then publish ALL
| > - if that doesn't work do it in remote
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | Thanks for you input..
| > | Should I open the LOCAL file... (do what you suggest) ...and then upload it,
| > | or open the REMOTE file?
| > | --
| > | Thanks ... Barry
| > |
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Open your site in FP
| > | > Delete all _overlay folders
| > | > Select View Navigation and make a change (to anything)
| > | > Then run Tool Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > | > FP should regenerate all the _overlay files and from them the hidden _derived files
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | Images/graphics are missing from my interactive Nav-bar. see subsequent
| > | > | pages on www.powerperfector(SPAMREMOVE).com
| > | > | The Nav bar comes from a Theme, and it's only the pressed images that are
| > | > | missing. I'm using FP 2003.
| > | > |
| > | > | From previous posts here, I've tried :
| > | > | - displaying hidden files, but _derived folder doesn't show (other hidden
| > | > | folders do eg _borders, but not _derived ?)
| > | > | - updated the images in the theme, then reapplied it to all the pages
| > | > | - recalculated hyperlinks (both locally, and on the remote site)
| > | > | - re-publishing the site (all pages, and then just changed pages); then
| > | > | looking at the log file.
| > | > | - 'exploring' the remote _derived folder - where some images are present,
| > | > | even though they were not listed in the above log file ! but the missing
| > | > | images are not there.
| > | > | - I got my ISP to remove, then re-install the FP extensions, then I did all
| > | > | of the above again.
| > | > |
| > | > | If I publish the site to my local machine it all works fine.
| > | > | I could presumably use explorer to compare the local/remote _derived
| > | > | folders, then ftp missing images to the remote server, but I understand this
| > | > | would wreck FP the functionality of FP extensions thereafter.
| > | > |
| > | > | Incidentally, I searched MS knowlege base - and didn't find a single ref to
| > | > | "_derived"! - shame.
| > | > | --
| > | > | Thanks ... Barry
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >