Import Citations

[huck]

Is there a way, or does the MBU plan on making a way, of importing citations to the new citation manager? I have citations in Endnote, Zotero, etc., but no way of importing. I love the citation manager, but I'm not typing in all of my sources AGAIN.

 

[John McGhie]

Have you used Help>Send Feedback to put it on their "To Do" list?

They won't read it in here (well, they might, but they won't remember it
when it comes time to design the next version...)

Use Send Feedback to get the idea into the database, where it won't get
lost.

Cheers

Is there a way, or does the MBU plan on making a way, of importing citations
to the new citation manager? I have citations in Endnote, Zotero, etc., but no
way of importing. I love the citation manager, but I'm not typing in all of my
sources AGAIN.

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[Daiya Mitchell]

Can I ask, out of curiosity--if you have EndNote and Zotero, why do you
love the citation manager?

 

[huck]

Daiya--
I suppose I should have qualified that: I love the 'idea' of the citation manager. Zotero is my preferred database, but it appears it is going to take some time to get it running with Office 08. And, it doesn't format to Turabian, which I need right now. Endnote hasn't released an update either, and I find it to be clunky and overblown.
Also, I just realized the "citation manager" doesn't insert "ibid" after multiple entries...so my earlier enthusiasm has been dampened.
I suppose I could just run Office 04, but it was never stable on my machine--and I love the idea of an XML based system (and I'm too scared to use NeoOffice). Plus, and I hate to say this as a life-long Mac user, I REALLY love Word 08. It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen that company produce. I'm trying "bookends" right now as a citation manager. Apparently it works well with 08--but I haven't had a chance to test it yet.

John--I have just done so. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Thanks for the reply. I sorta love the idea of the citation manager for
students, and it does what it does pretty easily, but like you, I find
too many missing things in it to love it itself. It's clearly a version
1--EndNote 3 didn't do shortened subsequent references either (my god,
did I really start with EN3?)

Many people seem to be very happy with BookEnds.

I don't know how Zotero works--but you do realize that you don't
necessarily need the plug-in to use the programs, right? For instance,
with EndNote, you can copy and paste raw citation fields, and then
either go back to Word 2004 or use the Scan RTF feature to format the
citations right before circulating the document.

 

[huck]

Daiya--
Actually, no, I did not know I could use Endnote without the plug-in. What is the "Scan RTF" feature that you mention here? How do I do it? (I want to avoid going back to Word 2004, mainly because I made the mistake of removing it!)
Endnote 3? Wow. Not to date myself, but I came in on version 8.

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

It looks like EN now calls it "Format Paper" rather than Scan RTF, as here:
http://endnote.com/support/en_wpchart_mac.asp
The EN Help will definitely have a section on it, possibly called
something like "using EN with processors other than Word". It's not
ideal--but it's functional and it means you don't have to break your
workflow to deal with this problem immediately, but can consider
Bookends at your leisure (there's also Sente, by the way)

To get the raw unformatted fields into the Word doc, just keep EN open
and either drag and drop directly from your library or use cmd-c, cmd-v
to copy/paste. That's what you do as you compose. When the doc is pretty
much finished, save a COPY as RTF and then run EN on it to format the
citations.

If I remember correctly, I have bought EN3, 5, 8 (buggy) and X, and have
never really committed to using its full power. Stupid. I started with 3
early in grad school, though.