import fonts?

[maussimo010]

hey all...

I am trying to import a font into MSOffice for Mac, Office 2008...is
such a thing possible?

I have a macbook pro, 3GB memory, 2.16 Core 2 Duo

I am trying to import a truetype (.ttf) font...here is what I am
doing:

opening font book

going to 'add new font'

browsing to my font folder (there is only 1 font in the folder)

adding it to 'computer', NOT 'user' (this makes it so ALL users can
access, not just myse;f when using my computer)

I then validate it, it check out fine

restarted the macbook in case the font library needed to be 'rebuilt'
or optimized with the new font

open word

try to find it in the fonts menu

it just doesnt show up...

am i doing something wrong, or is this even possible to do?

thanks in advance,

Scott

 

[Elliott Roper]

hey all...

I am trying to import a font into MSOffice for Mac, Office 2008...is
such a thing possible? Yes (but see later)
I have a macbook pro, 3GB memory, 2.16 Core 2 Duo

I am trying to import a truetype (.ttf) font...here is what I am
doing:

opening font book

going to 'add new font'

browsing to my font folder (there is only 1 font in the folder)

adding it to 'computer', NOT 'user' (this makes it so ALL users can
access, not just myse;f when using my computer)

I then validate it, it check out fine

restarted the macbook in case the font library needed to be 'rebuilt'
or optimized with the new font

that should not have been necessary

open word

try to find it in the fonts menu

it just doesnt show up... You are not alone
am i doing something wrong, or is this even possible to do?

You did everything right.
It is not just Word, but some other applications fail to see fonts that
are visible in Font Book and some applications.

In my experience, it has been Open Type Fonts with names starting later
in the alphabet that fail to show up. All the applications that fail to
show the fonts are built using the Carbon Frameworks (examples: Word,
GraphicConverter). Cocoa applications are OK (examples TextEdit, Pages)

It has been a while since I visited this problem, and now that I check
again, things have changed slightly. Cocoa applications still
accurately reflect what Font Book shows, but now Carbon applications
have improved to the point where I can no longer detect entire font
families going missing. Instead, just one or two variations have taken
a holiday. For instance, Helvetica Rounded LT Std shows 6 variants in
Cocoa apps and Font Book, but its Bold Condensed Oblique is missing
from the font lists of Word and GraphicConverter.

The problem seems to be Apple's, and it seems to have been partially
fixed.
The only thing I have done recently is upgrade my OS X to 10.5.3
It would be useful to know what version of OS X you are using.
or..
If you would care to tell me what font you are trying to make work, or
would consider breaching copyright by mailing me a zip file (for
research purposes only of course) then I'll see what my system does to
it.
The cryptic instruction in my sig means delete nospam and substitute my
first name.
Oh, please post here before you do. My spam filter is *very* picky
about posters from gmail with whom I have not previously corresponded.
I have added you to my whitelist, but if your real mail address differs
from what shows here, then it will fly into the bitbucket unseen by
human eyes.

 

[maussimo010]

Yes (but see later)









that should not have been necessary




You did everything right.
It is not just Word, but some other applications fail to see fonts that
are visible in Font Book and some applications.

In my experience, it has been Open Type Fonts with names starting later
in the alphabet that fail to show up. All the applications that fail to
show the fonts are built using the Carbon Frameworks (examples: Word,
GraphicConverter). Cocoa applications are OK (examples TextEdit, Pages)

It has been a while since I visited this problem, and now that I check
again, things have changed slightly. Cocoa applications still
accurately reflect what Font Book shows, but now Carbon applications
have improved to the point where I can no longer detect entire font
families going missing. Instead, just one or two variations have taken
a holiday. For instance, Helvetica Rounded LT Std shows 6 variants in
Cocoa apps and Font Book, but its Bold Condensed Oblique is missing
from the font lists of Word and GraphicConverter.

The problem seems to be Apple's, and it seems to have been partially
fixed.
The only thing I have done recently is upgrade my OS X to 10.5.3
It would be useful to know what version of OS X you are using.
or..
If you would care to tell me what font you are trying to make work, or
would consider breaching copyright by mailing me a zip file (for
research purposes only of course) then I'll see what my system does to
it.
The cryptic instruction in my sig means delete nospam and substitute my
first name.
Oh, please post here before you do. My spam filter is *very* picky
about posters from gmail with whom I have not previously corresponded.
I have added you to my whitelist, but if your real mail address differs
from what shows here, then it will fly into the bitbucket unseen by
human eyes.

I will send it, its one file and not very big at all...by the way, the
name of it Arcitectura

 

[maussimo010]

I will send it, its one file and not very big at all...by the way, the
name of it Arcitectura

as awful as it sounds, I am confused about 'de-munging' your email
address...please go ahead and email me first if you like: my email
address is the same as in the group

 

[maussimo010]

Yes (but see later)









that should not have been necessary




You did everything right.
It is not just Word, but some other applications fail to see fonts that
are visible in Font Book and some applications.

In my experience, it has been Open Type Fonts with names starting later
in the alphabet that fail to show up. All the applications that fail to
show the fonts are built using the Carbon Frameworks (examples: Word,
GraphicConverter). Cocoa applications are OK (examples TextEdit, Pages)

It has been a while since I visited this problem, and now that I check
again, things have changed slightly. Cocoa applications still
accurately reflect what Font Book shows, but now Carbon applications
have improved to the point where I can no longer detect entire font
families going missing. Instead, just one or two variations have taken
a holiday. For instance, Helvetica Rounded LT Std shows 6 variants in
Cocoa apps and Font Book, but its Bold Condensed Oblique is missing
from the font lists of Word and GraphicConverter.

The problem seems to be Apple's, and it seems to have been partially
fixed.
The only thing I have done recently is upgrade my OS X to 10.5.3
It would be useful to know what version of OS X you are using.
or..
If you would care to tell me what font you are trying to make work, or
would consider breaching copyright by mailing me a zip file (for
research purposes only of course) then I'll see what my system does to
it.
The cryptic instruction in my sig means delete nospam and substitute my
first name.
Oh, please post here before you do. My spam filter is *very* picky
about posters from gmail with whom I have not previously corresponded.
I have added you to my whitelist, but if your real mail address differs
from what shows here, then it will fly into the bitbucket unseen by
human eyes.

I havent used groups recently, so i just wanted to verify that my
email IS the one listed in the groups here, so please email me at that
one...

 

[CyberTaz]

Elliott will be more likely to provide an explanation of why the font
doesn't appear in the font list on the toolbar or Formatting Palette, but
the font is there & usable - you just have to go to Format> Font in order to
apply it. Why it won't appear in the lists I don't know, but this is an
issue that's been in play ever since 2008 came out. We still have no
explanation or fix. (BTW - it does show up in the font lists in 2004.)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Elliott Roper]

I will send it, its one file and not very big at all...by the way, the
name of it Arcitectura

You have mail. (Heh Architectura clearly fails my late in the alphabet
test.)

 

[Elliott Roper]

(well he sent me copy of it which I tested then discarded as promised Ñ
to keep the copyright hounds at bay)

Just for the record, it installed fine, and works in Cocoa apps like
Pages and TextEdit.
It does not show up in Word 2004 nor GraphicConverter.
It does work in InDesign CS3

 

[Elliott Roper]

Elliott will be more likely to provide an explanation of why the font
doesn't appear in the font list on the toolbar or Formatting Palette, but
the font is there & usable - you just have to go to Format> Font in order to
apply it. Why it won't appear in the lists I don't know, but this is an
issue that's been in play ever since 2008 came out. We still have no
explanation or fix. (BTW - it does show up in the font lists in 2004.)

As it turns out, you scored 0 out of 2
It does not show up in 2004's list, and it substitutes to Times NR when
an rtf containing it is opened in Word, even though the formatting
palette admits it has the correct name. You can re-export to rtf and
the font is honoured back in Pages and Textedit. Curious!
but then Scott *had* sent me a copy of it so I know for sure.

Actually (heh!) Make that 0 out of 3. I *can't* explain why it doesn't
appear. I put it down to PFM.

 

[CyberTaz]

Ah my dear Elliott - you know I have all the respect in the world for the
vast amount of knowledge you possess but even at that I draw the line when
it comes to you knowing more from across the pond than what I am witnessing
in the comfort of my own home. I *downloaded* a copy of Arcitectura (it's a
freebie) & would not have posted had I not been sure having tested it first.

The font *is* in my Formatting Toolbar's font list, the font *is* in my
Formatting Palette's font list and I even went so far as to apply it, save
as an RTF and on reopening there was no substitution. The text displays as
Arcitectura & is identified as such in both lists. I've also used it in
TextEdit, opened in Word 2004 with the same result.

This is Word 11.3.8 (Office 11.4.1), OS X 10.4.11 on a G5 Dual 2 GHz

Oddly enough, if I open the TE RTF in Word 2008 it recognizes & displays the
font correctly. However, when I open the Word 2004 RTF in 2008 the font
displays correctly but the compatibility check tells me that TNR is being
substituted for Adobe Garamond Pro - which is most definitely *not* in the
document. Word 2004's compatibility check reports no issues in either file.

So as it actually turns out perhaps you'd better recalc the tote board. BTW
- Apology accepted (as if there might be one, he said)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Elliott Roper]

Ah my dear Elliott - you know I have all the respect in the world for the
vast amount of knowledge you possess but even at that I draw the line when
it comes to you knowing more from across the pond than what I am witnessing
in the comfort of my own home. I *downloaded* a copy of Arcitectura (it's a
freebie) & would not have posted had I not been sure having tested it first.

Aha! I got my copy from Scott and tested it too.

The font *is* in my Formatting Toolbar's font list, the font *is* in my
Formatting Palette's font list and I even went so far as to apply it, save
as an RTF and on reopening there was no substitution. The text displays as
Arcitectura & is identified as such in both lists. I've also used it in
TextEdit, opened in Word 2004 with the same result.

I could see it's name in the formatting palette after importing some
text with that font used, but nowhere else, and it still substituted
TNR.

This is Word 11.3.8 (Office 11.4.1), OS X 10.4.11 on a G5 Dual 2 GHz

I tested on the same version of Word 10.5.3 Dual dual Pro

Oddly enough, if I open the TE RTF in Word 2008 it recognizes & displays the
font correctly. However, when I open the Word 2004 RTF in 2008 the font
displays correctly but the compatibility check tells me that TNR is being
substituted for Adobe Garamond Pro - which is most definitely *not* in the
document. Word 2004's compatibility check reports no issues in either file. Curious.
So as it actually turns out perhaps you'd better recalc the tote board. BTW
- Apology accepted (as if there might be one, he said)

Yes, I think some of this misbehaviour depends on how many other fonts
are on your system. (I have oodles). It certainly was on my earlier
tests looking for missing OTF fonts near the end of the alphabet.
So 0.5 to 2.5. That's absolutely as far as I'll go.
I bet this would have been fixed long ago if it were not so slippery.

PS To Scott: See what I mean? You learn more by trying to answer
questions in this group than you do by asking them!