In publisher, how do I converted all text to outlines

[John Z]

Not always, but sometimes when I send a PDF to some they write back that
there are fonts missing and ask me to: "Please converted all text to outlines
and resend as a final EPS or PDF file."
I don't know how to do that - HELP!

 

[JoAnn Paules]

You need to embed your fonts. Warning: Some fonts can't be embedded (by
license).

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

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How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

 

[Mary Sauer]

Page setup, printer and paper tab, select your PDF printer, properties, uncheck
"Do not send fonts to "Adobe PDF" (earlier versions will say distiller.

Save your file as a .ps publication.

 

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

Not always, but sometimes when I send a PDF to some they write back that
there are fonts missing and ask me to: "Please converted all text to outlines
and resend as a final EPS or PDF file."
I don't know how to do that - HELP!

Page setup, printer and paper tab, select your PDF printer, properties,
uncheck
"Do not send fonts to "Adobe PDF" (earlier versions will say distiller.

Save your file as a .ps publication.

Nonetheless, this will NOT help if he's using TrueType fonts that are
restricted by the font owner for embedding.

No mechanism will make those fonts go into the PDF.

The only thing he can do is to print to a Postscript file, and make sure
his printer driver is set up to download all fonts as soft fonts. At
least then it can be printed at the other end.

Or, he should buy and use strictly Postscript fonts. PS fonts don't
have embedding restrictions.

 

[Mary Sauer]

When you create a PostScript file in Publisher you have to send the host fonts,
this is why in printer properties you turn off the option "Do not send fonts to
Distiller". Every .ps file I have converted has open correctly with Acrobat. I
am assuming the recipients are opening the PostScript file with Acrobat.

Otherwise John will have to save the file as a picture and send it along that
way.

 

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

(damn Microsoft top posting fixed)

When you create a PostScript file in Publisher you have to send the host
fonts,
this is why in printer properties you turn off the option "Do not send fonts
to
Distiller". Every .ps file I have converted has open correctly with Acrobat.

Yes, it opens correctly with Acrobat. That's fine. And if the person
who opens the PDF has the same license-restricted TrueType fonts on his
host system as what were used to create the PDF, he can print the PDF as
well.

But if he doesn't have the fonts, printing will fail.

If the document creator gives it to a commercial printer who wants to
import the PDF directly into his workflow, it will also fail--because
his workflow expects the PDF to be completely self-contained. Best
case, his PDF workflow includes a mechanism to look for the fonts on the
commercial printer's system--but if the commercial printer doesn't own
the TrueType fonts in question, it'll fail.

Don't confuse opening a PDF with being able to use it in a commercial
printing workflow.

I
am assuming the recipients are opening the PostScript file with Acrobat.

Read the original post--he's creating PDF himself and sending it out,
and the printer he's sending it to can't use it.

Real publishing programs have a mechanism for turning type to outlines.
Publisher doesn't. He's stuck. There are many solutions to this, but
we'd have to know the commercial printer's workflow. The printer
himself gave one option that would solve the problem for free: turn
type to outlines. Gee, if only he could.

Otherwise John will have to save the file as a picture and send it along that
way.

Publisher must die, if this is the only solution you can come up with.

Everyone, repeat after me: Publisher is for creating flyers that you
print at home on your inkjet printer. Publisher is not for creating
anything that's going to a commercial printer of any kind.

By the way--I'm an Adobe Certified Expert for Acrobat. Do you want to
discuss PDF workflows?

 

[Mary Sauer]

<<<By the way--I'm an Adobe Certified Expert for Acrobat. Do you want to
discuss PDF workflows?


Heavens, no... I barely can turn on a computer.

 

[Matt Beals]

Real publishing programs have a mechanism for turning type to outlines.

That's complete BS. This feature doesn't make a desktop publishing
program "real" or "professional". Done right the workflow should not need
fonts outlined for output. For design purposes such as making masks sure.
There are other special circumstances, but having or not having this feature
doesn't matter.

Publisher doesn't. He's stuck. There are many solutions to this, but
we'd have to know the commercial printer's workflow. The printer
himself gave one option that would solve the problem for free: turn
type to outlines. Gee, if only he could.

No, we don't have to know the publishers workflow. That's tangential
information. I'm sure we're curious but if you isolate the issue of needing
fonts outlined then it's tangential. Font can be outlined in many different
ways before providing them to the publisher. Enfocus PitStop Pro 7 is one,
Cutting Edge ProScript is another. PStill from Stone Design (the Mac
publisher) and Frank Siegert is a PostScript normalizer that can handle
outlining of fonts during the normalization process as well as handle the
color conversions to CMYK. Another way that works, but I don't suggest, is
to use Acrobat Pro to add a transparent square behind the page and flatten
the transparency with the "convert text to outlines" option.

John could simply change fonts too...

Publisher must die, if this is the only solution you can come up with.

Everyone, repeat after me: Publisher is for creating flyers that you
print at home on your inkjet printer. Publisher is not for creating
anything that's going to a commercial printer of any kind.

No, it doesn't have to die. You can do quality work in Publisher if you
work "correctly". I've seen just as much crud from Publisher as I've seen
from InDesign and Quark users. It's not which program you use, what skills
you have is more important.

By the way--I'm an Adobe Certified Expert for Acrobat. Do you want to
discuss PDF workflows?

What about PDF based publishing/printing workflows do you want to know?

Matt Beals
Consultant
Enfocus Certified Trainer
Markzware Recognized Trainer
(206) 201-2320 - Main
(720) 367-3869 - eFax
mailto:[email protected]

Come visit me at:

http://www.automatetheworkflow.com
http://www.mattbeals.com
http://blog.mattbeals.com

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[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

Everyone, repeat after me: Publisher is for creating flyers that you
print at home on your inkjet printer. Publisher is not for creating
anything that's going to a commercial printer of any kind.

No, it doesn't have to die. You can do quality work in Publisher if you
work "correctly".[/QUOTE]

Publisher is aimed at a certain market.

The odds of users in that certain market using the program "correctly"
when the goal is commercial printing, are about zero.

Used at home, with your home printer, anyone can use it "correctly".

Different environments, and different meanings of "correctly".

 

[Matt Beals]

I know where it's aimed, the SOHO market and general office use. Hence
it's inclusion in Office. Why can't it be uses successfully in
commercial printing? There's a lot of range in commercial printing.
Publisher certainly fits in. I have several people I work with that use
Publisher for their periodicals. They publish their files quite
successfully with a minimal amount of fuss and problems.

Even if someone doesn't use it "correctly" for commercial printing the
workflow should be robust enough to accommodate those files. I know the
workflows I build can do that because my customers need it. Why do they
need that robustness? Because every copy of Publisher is a potential
customer that they want to service.

Matt Beals
Consultant
Enfocus Certified Trainer
Markzware Recognized Trainer
(206) 201-2320 - Main
(720) 367-3869 - eFax
mailto:[email protected]

Come visit me at:

http://www.automatetheworkflow.com
http://www.mattbeals.com
http://forums.mattbeals.com

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No, it doesn't have to die. You can do quality work in Publisher if you
work "correctly".

Publisher is aimed at a certain market.

The odds of users in that certain market using the program "correctly"
when the goal is commercial printing, are about zero.

Used at home, with your home printer, anyone can use it "correctly".

Different environments, and different meanings of "correctly".
[/QUOTE]

 

[Andrea Hartzell]

It does make a difference...we have trouble all the time with using fonts
that won't embed when we pack-n-go and I don't want to be limited on my
fonts...If I could only convert to outlines! Then I would also avoid the
problem of my graphics house having different versions of fonts and my
designs changing!