include page

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Lesa Motz

Running WindowsXP-Home
Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE


I have an include which is a background-changer using javascript. It is
made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an "onclick" by
the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and works in FP
preview

1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates the page
content:
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm

2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no more than
10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page to make the
table ] it works OK in IE v6
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm

The page being used as an include:
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm

So far in order to correct the problem of the include duplicating the page
content, I have:

Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any open tags or
bad html.

In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
%userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary internet
files\frontpagetempdir

Also deleted all .web files found including those in
%userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server extensions\cache.

Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files

At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are installed up to
date.

Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or repair internet
explorer in windowsXP]

Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]

Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks


What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?

Thanks, Lesa
 
L

Lesa Motz

PS.

This include page is the only one I'm having trouble with.
I have other includes like navigation directories and the copyright link
which are all working OK.

Lesa
 
L

Lesa Motz

MD Websunlimited said:
Lesa,
The include is in the page source twice.

Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....

There are two different includes in page01
<!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
TAG="BODY" -->
<!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
TAG="BODY" -->

The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
<!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm" TAG="BODY"
startspan -->
the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the code for
testbgcc.htm begins.
[ you can view the actual code for the include here:
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]

The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous generation
....I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or how to get rid
of it...

Lesa






MD Websunlimited said:
Lesa,

The include is in the page source twice.


--
Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
http://www.websunlimited.com
FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible

Running WindowsXP-Home
Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE


I have an include which is a background-changer using javascript. It is
made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an "onclick" by
the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and works in FP
preview

1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates the page
content:
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm

2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no more than
10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page to make the
table ] it works OK in IE v6
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm

The page being used as an include:
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm

So far in order to correct the problem of the include duplicating the page
content, I have:

Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any open tags or
bad html.

In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
%userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary internet
files\frontpagetempdir

Also deleted all .web files found including those in
%userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server extensions\cache.

Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files

At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are installed up to
date.

Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or repair internet
explorer in windowsXP]

Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]

Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks


What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?

Thanks, Lesa
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Your Include page at http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
- missing </html> after </body>
Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
<table>
</table>
And the odd center tags after
</td>
</center>
plus
</td>
<center>





| | > Lesa,
| > The include is in the page source twice.
|
| Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
|
| There are two different includes in page01
| <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| TAG="BODY" -->
| <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| TAG="BODY" -->
|
| The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
| <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm" TAG="BODY"
| startspan -->
| the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the code for
| testbgcc.htm begins.
| [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
|
| The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous generation
| ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or how to get rid
| of it...
|
| Lesa
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > Lesa,
| >
| > The include is in the page source twice.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| >
| | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > >
| > >
| > > I have an include which is a background-changer using javascript. It is
| > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an "onclick"
| by
| > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and works in
| FP
| > > preview
| > >
| > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates the
| page
| > > content:
| > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > >
| > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no more
| than
| > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page to make
| the
| > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > >
| > > The page being used as an include:
| > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > >
| > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include duplicating the
| page
| > > content, I have:
| > >
| > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any open tags
| or
| > > bad html.
| > >
| > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
| > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| internet
| > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > >
| > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server extensions\cache.
| > >
| > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > >
| > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
| > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are installed up
| to
| > > date.
| > >
| > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or repair
| internet
| > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > >
| > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]
| > >
| > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > >
| > >
| > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > >
| > > Thanks, Lesa
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
 
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Lesa Motz

Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the duplicating
code problem remains
I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many times over
on this website.
I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm and
bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick fix to
make it work.
I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've made that
will cause big problems later...
And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat errors.

Lesa




Stefan B Rusynko said:
Your Include page at
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
- missing </html> after </body>
Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
<table>
</table>
And the odd center tags after
</td>
</center>
plus
</td>
<center>





| | > Lesa,
| > The include is in the page source twice.
|
| Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
|
| There are two different includes in page01
| <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| TAG="BODY" -->
| <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| TAG="BODY" -->
|
| The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
| <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm" TAG="BODY"
| startspan -->
| the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the code for
| testbgcc.htm begins.
| [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
|
| The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous generation
| ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or how to get rid
| of it...
|
| Lesa
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > Lesa,
| >
| > The include is in the page source twice.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| >
| | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > >
| > >
| > > I have an include which is a background-changer using javascript. It is
| > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an "onclick"
| by
| > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and works in
| FP
| > > preview
| > >
| > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates the
| page
| > > content:
| > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > >
| > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no more
| than
| > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page to make
| the
| > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > >
| > > The page being used as an include:
| > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > >
| > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include duplicating the
| page
| > > content, I have:
| > >
| > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any open tags
| or
| > > bad html.
| > >
| > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
| > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| internet
| > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > >
| > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server extensions\cache.
| > >
| > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > >
| > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
| > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are installed up
| to
| > > date.
| > >
| > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or repair
| internet
| > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > >
| > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]
| > >
| > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > >
| > >
| > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > >
| > > Thanks, Lesa
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

There are some bugs in FP in the FP2002 SE related to shared borders & include pages that cause duplicated content so make sure you
(and your host) see & apply all appropriate patches from:

If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO XP - see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671

For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE

For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
(FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport

For NT server problems on the FP2002 SE see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298827
For FrontPage Server Extension 2002 Update - see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q317296
and security patch
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-053.asp





|
| Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the duplicating
| code problem remains
| I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many times over
| on this website.
| I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm and
| bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick fix to
| make it work.
| I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've made that
| will cause big problems later...
| And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat errors.
|
| Lesa
|
|
|
|
| | > Your Include page at
| http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > - missing </html> after </body>
| > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > <table>
| > </table>
| > And the odd center tags after
| > </td>
| > </center>
| > plus
| > </td>
| > <center>
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | > | | > | > Lesa,
| > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > |
| > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
| > |
| > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > |
| > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| TAG="BODY"
| > | startspan -->
| > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the code
| for
| > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > |
| > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| generation
| > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or how to get
| rid
| > | of it...
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Lesa,
| > | >
| > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | >
| > | | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using javascript.
| It is
| > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an
| "onclick"
| > | by
| > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and
| works in
| > | FP
| > | > > preview
| > | > >
| > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates the
| > | page
| > | > > content:
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no
| more
| > | than
| > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page to
| make
| > | the
| > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include duplicating
| the
| > | page
| > | > > content, I have:
| > | > >
| > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any open
| tags
| > | or
| > | > > bad html.
| > | > >
| > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
| > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| > | internet
| > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > >
| > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| extensions\cache.
| > | > >
| > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > >
| > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
| > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are installed
| up
| > | to
| > | > > date.
| > | > >
| > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or repair
| > | internet
| > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > >
| > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]
| > | > >
| > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
L

Lesa Motz

I'm off to pursue your recommendations....

Stefan B Rusynko said:
There are some bugs in FP in the FP2002 SE related to shared borders &
include pages that cause duplicated content so make sure you
(and your host) see & apply all appropriate patches from:

If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO XP - see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671

For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE

For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
(FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport

For NT server problems on the FP2002 SE see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298827
For FrontPage Server Extension 2002 Update - see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q317296
and security patch
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-053.asp





|
| Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the duplicating
| code problem remains
| I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many times over
| on this website.
| I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm and
| bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick fix to
| make it work.
| I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've made that
| will cause big problems later...
| And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat errors.
|
| Lesa
|
|
|
|
| | > Your Include page at
| http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > - missing </html> after </body>
| > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > <table>
| > </table>
| > And the odd center tags after
| > </td>
| > </center>
| > plus
| > </td>
| > <center>
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | > | | > | > Lesa,
| > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > |
| > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
| > |
| > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > |
| > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| TAG="BODY"
| > | startspan -->
| > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the code
| for
| > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > |
| > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| generation
| > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or how to get
| rid
| > | of it...
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Lesa,
| > | >
| > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | >
| > | | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using javascript.
| It is
| > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an
| "onclick"
| > | by
| > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and
| works in
| > | FP
| > | > > preview
| > | > >
| > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates the
| > | page
| > | > > content:
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no
| more
| > | than
| > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page to
| make
| > | the
| > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include duplicating
| the
| > | page
| > | > > content, I have:
| > | > >
| > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any open
| tags
| > | or
| > | > > bad html.
| > | > >
| > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
| > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| > | internet
| > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > >
| > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| extensions\cache.
| > | > >
| > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > >
| > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
| > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are installed
| up
| > | to
| > | > > date.
| > | > >
| > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or repair
| > | internet
| > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > >
| > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]
| > | > >
| > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
L

Lesa Motz

***********************************************
If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO XP - see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671
***********************************************

I went here: http://office.microsoft.com/OfficeUpdate/default.aspx
And got this: Microsoft Office Update Help
Please wait. Checking for Office updates you need...
100% complete
Your Office products do not need any updates.
Note that this site only supports Office 2000,
Office XP and Office 2003 products.

This means I'm OK and up-to-date right?


***********************************************
For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE
For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
(FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport
************************************************

I got this response from My ISP: Apollo Hosting
-------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Lesa,
We are currently using the MS Frontpage 2002 Extensions v. 5.0.2.2623
That security bulletin is from September 25, 2002. I believe these are
the latest frontpage extensions available.
Microsoft's website:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/html/fpse02unix.asp

I got this from the Microsoft website for Unix
All Web administrators hosting Web sites extended with the Microsoft
FrontPage Server Extensions should download
and install the FrontPage Server Extensions version 2002 for the
appropriate platform and operating system.
The current version is 5.0.2.2623

This looks like my host is up-to-date and not missing any patches, correct?



**************************************************************
For NT server problems on the FP2002 SE see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298827
For FrontPage Server Extension 2002 Update - see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q317296
and security patch
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-053.asp
*************************************************************
I'm pretty sure the following doesn't apply because I'm running
WindowsXP-home, correct?












|
| Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the duplicating
| code problem remains
| I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many times over
| on this website.
| I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm and
| bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick fix to
| make it work.
| I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've made that
| will cause big problems later...
| And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat errors.
|
| Lesa
|
|
|
|
| | > Your Include page at
| http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > - missing </html> after </body>
| > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > <table>
| > </table>
| > And the odd center tags after
| > </td>
| > </center>
| > plus
| > </td>
| > <center>
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | > | | > | > Lesa,
| > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > |
| > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
| > |
| > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > |
| > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
| > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| TAG="BODY"
| > | startspan -->
| > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the code
| for
| > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > |
| > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| generation
| > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or how to get
| rid
| > | of it...
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Lesa,
| > | >
| > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | >
| > | | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using javascript.
| It is
| > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an
| "onclick"
| > | by
| > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and
| works in
| > | FP
| > | > > preview
| > | > >
| > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates the
| > | page
| > | > > content:
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no
| more
| > | than
| > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page to
| make
| > | the
| > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include duplicating
| the
| > | page
| > | > > content, I have:
| > | > >
| > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any open
| tags
| > | or
| > | > > bad html.
| > | > >
| > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
| > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| > | internet
| > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > >
| > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| extensions\cache.
| > | > >
| > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > >
| > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
| > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are installed
| up
| > | to
| > | > > date.
| > | > >
| > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or repair
| > | internet
| > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > >
| > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]
| > | > >
| > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Right

But your online host may need to update their FP SE per the other links




| ***********************************************
| > If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO XP -
| see:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671
| ***********************************************
|
| I went here: http://office.microsoft.com/OfficeUpdate/default.aspx
| And got this: Microsoft Office Update Help
| Please wait. Checking for Office updates you need...
| 100% complete
| Your Office products do not need any updates.
| Note that this site only supports Office 2000,
| Office XP and Office 2003 products.
|
| This means I'm OK and up-to-date right?
|
|
| ***********************************************
| > For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE
| > For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
| > The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
| > (FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
| > are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport
| ************************************************
|
| I got this response from My ISP: Apollo Hosting
| -------------------------------------------------------------
| Hello Lesa,
| We are currently using the MS Frontpage 2002 Extensions v. 5.0.2.2623
| That security bulletin is from September 25, 2002. I believe these are
| the latest frontpage extensions available.
| Microsoft's website:
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/html/fpse02unix.asp
|
| I got this from the Microsoft website for Unix
| All Web administrators hosting Web sites extended with the Microsoft
| FrontPage Server Extensions should download
| and install the FrontPage Server Extensions version 2002 for the
| appropriate platform and operating system.
| The current version is 5.0.2.2623
|
| This looks like my host is up-to-date and not missing any patches, correct?
|
|
|
| **************************************************************
| > For NT server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298827
| > For FrontPage Server Extension 2002 Update - see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q317296
| > and security patch
| >
| http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-053.asp
| > *************************************************************
| I'm pretty sure the following doesn't apply because I'm running
| WindowsXP-home, correct?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > |
| > | Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the
| duplicating
| > | code problem remains
| > | I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many times
| over
| > | on this website.
| > | I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm and
| > | bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick fix to
| > | make it work.
| > | I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've made that
| > | will cause big problems later...
| > | And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat errors.
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Your Include page at
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > | > - missing </html> after </body>
| > | > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > | > <table>
| > | > </table>
| > | > And the odd center tags after
| > | > </td>
| > | > </center>
| > | > plus
| > | > </td>
| > | > <center>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > |
| > | > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
| > | > |
| > | > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > |
| > | > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY"
| > | > | startspan -->
| > | > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the
| code
| > | for
| > | > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > | > |
| > | > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| > | generation
| > | > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or how to
| get
| > | rid
| > | > | of it...
| > | > |
| > | > | Lesa
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | > | >
| > | > | | > | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using
| javascript.
| > | It is
| > | > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an
| > | "onclick"
| > | > | by
| > | > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and
| > | works in
| > | > | FP
| > | > | > > preview
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates
| the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no
| > | more
| > | > | than
| > | > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page
| to
| > | make
| > | > | the
| > | > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include
| duplicating
| > | the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content, I have:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any
| open
| > | tags
| > | > | or
| > | > | > > bad html.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| > | extensions\cache.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
| > | > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are
| installed
| > | up
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > date.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or
| repair
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
L

Lesa Motz

Thanks Stefan, I went back to my ISP:

Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
Hello Lesa,
We are going to send this to our Tier2 staff to see if these have been
applied.
Thanks.
[name] Tech Staff

I've got my fingers crossed....


Stefan B Rusynko said:
Right

But your online host may need to update their FP SE per the other links




| ***********************************************
| > If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO XP -
| see:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671
| ***********************************************
|
| I went here: http://office.microsoft.com/OfficeUpdate/default.aspx
| And got this: Microsoft Office Update Help
| Please wait. Checking for Office updates you need...
| 100% complete
| Your Office products do not need any updates.
| Note that this site only supports Office 2000,
| Office XP and Office 2003 products.
|
| This means I'm OK and up-to-date right?
|
|
| ***********************************************
| > For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE
| > For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
| > The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
| > (FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
| > are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport
| ************************************************
|
| I got this response from My ISP: Apollo Hosting
| -------------------------------------------------------------
| Hello Lesa,
| We are currently using the MS Frontpage 2002 Extensions v. 5.0.2.2623
| That security bulletin is from September 25, 2002. I believe these are
| the latest frontpage extensions available.
| Microsoft's website:
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/html/fpse02unix.asp
|
| I got this from the Microsoft website for Unix
| All Web administrators hosting Web sites extended with the Microsoft
| FrontPage Server Extensions should download
| and install the FrontPage Server Extensions version 2002 for the
| appropriate platform and operating system.
| The current version is 5.0.2.2623
|
| This looks like my host is up-to-date and not missing any patches, correct?
|
|
|
| **************************************************************
| > For NT server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298827
| > For FrontPage Server Extension 2002 Update - see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q317296
| > and security patch
| >
| http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-053.asp
| > *************************************************************
| I'm pretty sure the following doesn't apply because I'm running
| WindowsXP-home, correct?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > |
| > | Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the
| duplicating
| > | code problem remains
| > | I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many times
| over
| > | on this website.
| > | I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm and
| > | bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick fix to
| > | make it work.
| > | I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've made that
| > | will cause big problems later...
| > | And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat errors.
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Your Include page at
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > | > - missing </html> after </body>
| > | > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > | > <table>
| > | > </table>
| > | > And the odd center tags after
| > | > </td>
| > | > </center>
| > | > plus
| > | > </td>
| > | > <center>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > |
| > | > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
| > | > |
| > | > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > |
| > | > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY"
| > | > | startspan -->
| > | > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the
| code
| > | for
| > | > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > | > |
| > | > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| > | generation
| > | > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or how to
| get
| > | rid
| > | > | of it...
| > | > |
| > | > | Lesa
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | > | >
| > | > | | > | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using
| javascript.
| > | It is
| > | > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires an
| > | "onclick"
| > | > | by
| > | > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view and
| > | works in
| > | > | FP
| > | > | > > preview
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates
| the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no
| > | more
| > | > | than
| > | > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page
| to
| > | make
| > | > | the
| > | > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include
| duplicating
| > | the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content, I have:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any
| open
| > | tags
| > | > | or
| > | > | > > bad html.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| > | extensions\cache.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
| > | > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are
| installed
| > | up
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > date.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or
| repair
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
L

Lesa Motz

Stefan,
Thank you for your time, direction, and support....
As usual, you hit the nail on the head...

My ISP's suggestion that I apply the patches to the server myself is beyond
my technical abilities.

Lesa



Ticket ID : 324643
Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello,
Due to the nature of our packaging system, we cannot patch the existing
extensions (our software provider must create a patched package for us
first.) If you are up to the task, you may patch those on your server,
however we will not be able to provide support for this configuration.
Alternatively, the when a pacthed extension set is made available to us, you
will be able to apply that patch using your control panel.
_________________________________
Steve M.
Technical Support

******************************************************






Lesa Motz said:
Thanks Stefan, I went back to my ISP:

Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
--------------------------------------------------------------------- --
-----
Hello Lesa,
We are going to send this to our Tier2 staff to see if these have been
applied.
Thanks.
[name] Tech Staff

I've got my fingers crossed....


Stefan B Rusynko said:
Right

But your online host may need to update their FP SE per the other links




| ***********************************************
| > If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO XP -
| see:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671
| ***********************************************
|
| I went here: http://office.microsoft.com/OfficeUpdate/default.aspx
| And got this: Microsoft Office Update Help
| Please wait. Checking for Office updates you need...
| 100% complete
| Your Office products do not need any updates.
| Note that this site only supports Office 2000,
| Office XP and Office 2003 products.
|
| This means I'm OK and up-to-date right?
|
|
| ***********************************************
| > For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE
| > For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
| > The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
| > (FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
| > are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport
| ************************************************
|
| I got this response from My ISP: Apollo Hosting
| -------------------------------------------------------------
| Hello Lesa,
| We are currently using the MS Frontpage 2002 Extensions v. 5.0.2.2623
| That security bulletin is from September 25, 2002. I believe
these
are
| the latest frontpage extensions available.
| Microsoft's website:
|
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/html/fpse02unix.asp
|
| I got this from the Microsoft website for Unix
| All Web administrators hosting Web sites extended with the Microsoft
| FrontPage Server Extensions should download
| and install the FrontPage Server Extensions version 2002 for the
| appropriate platform and operating system.
| The current version is 5.0.2.2623
|
| This looks like my host is up-to-date and not missing any patches, correct?
|
|
|
| **************************************************************
| > For NT server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298827
| > For FrontPage Server Extension 2002 Update - see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q317296
| > and security patch
| >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-053.asp
| > *************************************************************
| I'm pretty sure the following doesn't apply because I'm running
| WindowsXP-home, correct?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > |
| > | Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the
| duplicating
| > | code problem remains
| > | I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many times
| over
| > | on this website.
| > | I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm and
| > | bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick fix to
| > | make it work.
| > | I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've
made
that
| > | will cause big problems later...
| > | And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat errors.
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Your Include page at
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > | > - missing </html> after </body>
| > | > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > | > <table>
| > | > </table>
| > | > And the odd center tags after
| > | > </td>
| > | > </center>
| > | > plus
| > | > </td>
| > | > <center>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > |
| > | > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
| > | > |
| > | > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > |
| > | > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins with:
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY"
| > | > | startspan -->
| > | > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN the
| code
| > | for
| > | > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > | > |
| > | > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| > | generation
| > | > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or
how
to
| get
| > | rid
| > | > | of it...
| > | > |
| > | > | Lesa
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | > | >
| > | > | | > | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using
| javascript.
| > | It is
| > | > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and
requires
an
| > | "onclick"
| > | > | by
| > | > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design
view
and
| > | works in
| > | > | FP
| > | > | > > preview
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates
| the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no
| > | more
| > | > | than
| > | > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web page
| to
| > | make
| > | > | the
| > | > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include
| duplicating
| > | the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content, I have:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for any
| open
| > | tags
| > | > | or
| > | > | > > bad html.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including
those
in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| > | extensions\cache.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs for
| > | > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are
| installed
| > | up
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > date.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall or
| repair
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco site]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
C

chris leeds

what you need is a new host. the idea that they'd give you an answer like
that is testimony to the fact that they don't value or appreciate you
accordingly.
here's one guy who I know to be decent and professional:
http://arendkay.net
and then there's me. ;-)
http://nedp.net/hosting

HTH

I'd be hopping mad. look at the time your host has milked out of you trying
to fix something they should have preemptively done themselves, then telling
you to apply a server side patch! that's totally bunk. I'm ticked off and
it's not even my problem!

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP FrontPage

The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
--


Lesa Motz said:
Stefan,
Thank you for your time, direction, and support....
As usual, you hit the nail on the head...

My ISP's suggestion that I apply the patches to the server myself is beyond
my technical abilities.

Lesa



Ticket ID : 324643
Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
Hello,
Due to the nature of our packaging system, we cannot patch the existing
extensions (our software provider must create a patched package for us
first.) If you are up to the task, you may patch those on your server,
however we will not be able to provide support for this configuration.
Alternatively, the when a pacthed extension set is made available to us, you
will be able to apply that patch using your control panel.
_________________________________
Steve M.
Technical Support

******************************************************






Lesa Motz said:
Thanks Stefan, I went back to my ISP:

Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-----
Hello Lesa,
We are going to send this to our Tier2 staff to see if these have been
applied.
Thanks.
[name] Tech Staff

I've got my fingers crossed....


Stefan B Rusynko said:
Right

But your online host may need to update their FP SE per the other links




| ***********************************************
| > If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO XP -
| see:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671
| ***********************************************
|
| I went here: http://office.microsoft.com/OfficeUpdate/default.aspx
| And got this: Microsoft Office Update Help
| Please wait. Checking for Office updates you need...
| 100% complete
| Your Office products do not need any updates.
| Note that this site only supports Office 2000,
| Office XP and Office 2003 products.
|
| This means I'm OK and up-to-date right?
|
|
| ***********************************************
| > For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE
| > For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
| > The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
| > (FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
| > are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport
| ************************************************
|
| I got this response from My ISP: Apollo Hosting
| -------------------------------------------------------------
| Hello Lesa,
| We are currently using the MS Frontpage 2002 Extensions v. 5.0.2.2623
| That security bulletin is from September 25, 2002. I believe
these
are
| the latest frontpage extensions available.
| Microsoft's website:
|
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/h
tml/fpse02unix.asphttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/MS02-053.asp
| > *************************************************************
| I'm pretty sure the following doesn't apply because I'm running
| WindowsXP-home, correct?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > |
| > | Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the
| duplicating
| > | code problem remains
| > | I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include
many
times
| over
| > | on this website.
| > | I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables
[bgcc01.htm
and
| > | bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a
quick
fix to
| > | make it work.
| > | I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've
made
that
| > | will cause big problems later...
| > | And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat errors.
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Your Include page at
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > | > - missing </html> after </body>
| > | > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > | > <table>
| > | > </table>
| > | > And the odd center tags after
| > | > </td>
| > | > </center>
| > | > plus
| > | > </td>
| > | > <center>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > |
| > | > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it there.....
| > | > |
| > | > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > |
| > | > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot
begins
with:
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY"
| > | > | startspan -->
| > | > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and
THEN
the
| code
| > | for
| > | > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > | > |
| > | > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| > | generation
| > | > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or
how
to
| get
| > | rid
| > | > | of it...
| > | > |
| > | > | Lesa
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | > | >
| > | > | | > | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using
| javascript.
| > | It is
| > | > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and
requires
an
| > | "onclick"
| > | > | by
| > | > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design
view
and
| > | works in
| > | > | FP
| > | > | > > preview
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it duplicates
| the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part being no
| > | more
| > | > | than
| > | > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the
web
page
| to
| > | make
| > | > | the
| > | > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include
| duplicating
| > | the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content, I have:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking
for
any
| open
| > | tags
| > | > | or
| > | > | > > bad html.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including
those
in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in %userprofile%\temporary
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| > | extensions\cache.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service
packs
for
| > | > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are
| installed
| > | up
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > date.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to
reinstall
or
| repair
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from
Jimco
site]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
L

Lesa Motz

Thanks for your comments, Chris....I'm afraid you're right. Since I'm
not a programmer, I'd better make another choice soon....

Lesa


chris leeds said:
what you need is a new host. the idea that they'd give you an answer like
that is testimony to the fact that they don't value or appreciate you
accordingly.
here's one guy who I know to be decent and professional:
http://arendkay.net
and then there's me. ;-)
http://nedp.net/hosting

HTH

I'd be hopping mad. look at the time your host has milked out of you trying
to fix something they should have preemptively done themselves, then telling
you to apply a server side patch! that's totally bunk. I'm ticked off and
it's not even my problem!

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP FrontPage

The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
--


Lesa Motz said:
Stefan,
Thank you for your time, direction, and support....
As usual, you hit the nail on the head...

My ISP's suggestion that I apply the patches to the server myself is beyond
my technical abilities.

Lesa



Ticket ID : 324643
Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Hello,
Due to the nature of our packaging system, we cannot patch the existing
extensions (our software provider must create a patched package for us
first.) If you are up to the task, you may patch those on your server,
however we will not be able to provide support for this configuration.
Alternatively, the when a pacthed extension set is made available to us, you
will be able to apply that patch using your control panel.
_________________________________
Steve M.
Technical Support

******************************************************






Lesa Motz said:
Thanks Stefan, I went back to my ISP:

Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-----
Hello Lesa,
We are going to send this to our Tier2 staff to see if these have been
applied.
Thanks.
[name] Tech Staff

I've got my fingers crossed....


Right

But your online host may need to update their FP SE per the other links




| ***********************************************
| > If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO
XP -
| see:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671
| ***********************************************
|
| I went here: http://office.microsoft.com/OfficeUpdate/default.aspx
| And got this: Microsoft Office Update Help
| Please wait. Checking for Office updates you
need...
| 100% complete
| Your Office products do not need any updates.
| Note that this site only supports Office 2000,
| Office XP and Office 2003 products.
|
| This means I'm OK and up-to-date right?
|
|
| ***********************************************
| > For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE
| > For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
| > The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
| > (FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
| > are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport
| ************************************************
|
| I got this response from My ISP: Apollo Hosting
| -------------------------------------------------------------
| Hello Lesa,
| We are currently using the MS Frontpage 2002 Extensions v.
5.0.2.2623
| That security bulletin is from September 25, 2002. I believe these
are
| the latest frontpage extensions available.
| Microsoft's website:
|
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/h
tml/fpse02unix.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/MS02-053.asp
| > *************************************************************
| I'm pretty sure the following doesn't apply because I'm running
| WindowsXP-home, correct?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > |
| > | Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the
| duplicating
| > | code problem remains
| > | I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many
times
| over
| > | on this website.
| > | I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm
and
| > | bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick
fix to
| > | make it work.
| > | I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've made
that
| > | will cause big problems later...
| > | And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat
errors.
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Your Include page at
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > | > - missing </html> after </body>
| > | > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > | > <table>
| > | > </table>
| > | > And the odd center tags after
| > | > </td>
| > | > </center>
| > | > plus
| > | > </td>
| > | > <center>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > |
| > | > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it
there.....
| > | > |
| > | > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > |
| > | > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins
with:
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY"
| > | > | startspan -->
| > | > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN
the
| code
| > | for
| > | > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > | > |
| > | > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| > | generation
| > | > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it
or
how
to
| get
| > | rid
| > | > | of it...
| > | > |
| > | > | Lesa
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | > | >
| > | > | | > | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using
| javascript.
| > | It is
| > | > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and requires
an
| > | "onclick"
| > | > | by
| > | > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design view
and
| > | works in
| > | > | FP
| > | > | > > preview
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it
duplicates
| the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part
being no
| > | more
| > | > | than
| > | > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web
page
| to
| > | make
| > | > | the
| > | > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include
| duplicating
| > | the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content, I have:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for
any
| open
| > | tags
| > | > | or
| > | > | > > bad html.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including those
in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in
%userprofile%\temporary
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| > | extensions\cache.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs
for
| > | > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are
| installed
| > | up
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > date.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to
reinstall
or
| repair
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco
site]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

I have seen a few Unix/Linux web host that now offer the FP extensions, only because they come as
part of the Host Control Panel application. The problem with these host is that they don't know a
thing about FP extensions and have to wait until the Host Control Panel vendor to updates the
application with any patches for the extensions.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Lesa Motz said:
Thanks for your comments, Chris....I'm afraid you're right. Since I'm
not a programmer, I'd better make another choice soon....

Lesa


chris leeds said:
what you need is a new host. the idea that they'd give you an answer like
that is testimony to the fact that they don't value or appreciate you
accordingly.
here's one guy who I know to be decent and professional:
http://arendkay.net
and then there's me. ;-)
http://nedp.net/hosting

HTH

I'd be hopping mad. look at the time your host has milked out of you trying
to fix something they should have preemptively done themselves, then telling
you to apply a server side patch! that's totally bunk. I'm ticked off and
it's not even my problem!

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP FrontPage

The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
--


Lesa Motz said:
Stefan,
Thank you for your time, direction, and support....
As usual, you hit the nail on the head...

My ISP's suggestion that I apply the patches to the server myself is beyond
my technical abilities.

Lesa



Ticket ID : 324643
Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Hello,
Due to the nature of our packaging system, we cannot patch the existing
extensions (our software provider must create a patched package for us
first.) If you are up to the task, you may patch those on your server,
however we will not be able to provide support for this configuration.
Alternatively, the when a pacthed extension set is made available to us, you
will be able to apply that patch using your control panel.
_________________________________
Steve M.
Technical Support

******************************************************






Thanks Stefan, I went back to my ISP:

Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-----
Hello Lesa,
We are going to send this to our Tier2 staff to see if these have
been
applied.
Thanks.
[name] Tech Staff

I've got my fingers crossed....


Right

But your online host may need to update their FP SE per the other links




| ***********************************************
| > If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002 / MSO
XP -
| see:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671
| ***********************************************
|
| I went here: http://office.microsoft.com/OfficeUpdate/default.aspx
| And got this: Microsoft Office Update Help
| Please wait. Checking for Office updates you
need...
| 100% complete
| Your Office products do not need any updates.
| Note that this site only supports Office 2000,
| Office XP and Office 2003 products.
|
| This means I'm OK and up-to-date right?
|
|
| ***********************************************
| > For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE
| > For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
| > The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
| > (FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
| > are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport
| ************************************************
|
| I got this response from My ISP: Apollo Hosting
| -------------------------------------------------------------
| Hello Lesa,
| We are currently using the MS Frontpage 2002 Extensions v.
5.0.2.2623
| That security bulletin is from September 25, 2002. I believe
these
are
| the latest frontpage extensions available.
| Microsoft's website:
|
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/h
tml/fpse02unix.asp
|
| I got this from the Microsoft website for Unix
| All Web administrators hosting Web sites extended with the
Microsoft
| FrontPage Server Extensions should download
| and install the FrontPage Server Extensions version 2002 for the
| appropriate platform and operating system.
| The current version is 5.0.2.2623
|
| This looks like my host is up-to-date and not missing any patches,
correct?
|
|
|
| **************************************************************
| > For NT server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298827
| > For FrontPage Server Extension 2002 Update - see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q317296
| > and security patch
| >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/MS02-053.asp
| > *************************************************************
| I'm pretty sure the following doesn't apply because I'm running
| WindowsXP-home, correct?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > |
| > | Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the
| duplicating
| > | code problem remains
| > | I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include many
times
| over
| > | on this website.
| > | I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables [bgcc01.htm
and
| > | bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a quick
fix to
| > | make it work.
| > | I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've
made
that
| > | will cause big problems later...
| > | And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat
errors.
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Your Include page at
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is broken
| > | > - missing </html> after </body>
| > | > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > | > <table>
| > | > </table>
| > | > And the odd center tags after
| > | > </td>
| > | > </center>
| > | > plus
| > | > </td>
| > | > <center>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > |
| > | > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it
there.....
| > | > |
| > | > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > |
| > | > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot begins
with:
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY"
| > | > | startspan -->
| > | > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and THEN
the
| code
| > | for
| > | > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > | > |
| > | > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a spontaneous
| > | generation
| > | > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing it or
how
to
| get
| > | rid
| > | > | of it...
| > | > |
| > | > | Lesa
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible
| > | > | >
| > | > | | > | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using
| javascript.
| > | It is
| > | > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and
requires
an
| > | "onclick"
| > | > | by
| > | > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design
view
and
| > | works in
| > | > | FP
| > | > | > > preview
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it
duplicates
| the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part
being no
| > | more
| > | > | than
| > | > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the web
page
| to
| > | make
| > | > | the
| > | > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include
| duplicating
| > | the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content, I have:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking for
any
| open
| > | tags
| > | > | or
| > | > | > > bad html.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including
those
in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in
%userprofile%\temporary
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| > | extensions\cache.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service packs
for
| > | > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer are
| installed
| > | up
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > date.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to reinstall
or
| repair
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from Jimco
site]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a solution ?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
L

Lesa Motz

Thanks, Thomas

It helps to understand why my hosts would respond as they did and perhaps
what questions to ask before purchasing web host services...

Lesa.



Thomas A. Rowe said:
I have seen a few Unix/Linux web host that now offer the FP extensions, only because they come as
part of the Host Control Panel application. The problem with these host is that they don't know a
thing about FP extensions and have to wait until the Host Control Panel vendor to updates the
application with any patches for the extensions.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Thanks for your comments, Chris....I'm afraid you're right. Since I'm
not a programmer, I'd better make another choice soon....

Lesa


chris leeds said:
what you need is a new host. the idea that they'd give you an answer like
that is testimony to the fact that they don't value or appreciate you
accordingly.
here's one guy who I know to be decent and professional:
http://arendkay.net
and then there's me. ;-)
http://nedp.net/hosting

HTH

I'd be hopping mad. look at the time your host has milked out of you trying
to fix something they should have preemptively done themselves, then telling
you to apply a server side patch! that's totally bunk. I'm ticked
off
and
it's not even my problem!

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP FrontPage

The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
all
the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
--


Stefan,
Thank you for your time, direction, and support....
As usual, you hit the nail on the head...

My ISP's suggestion that I apply the patches to the server myself is
beyond
my technical abilities.

Lesa



Ticket ID : 324643
Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Hello,
Due to the nature of our packaging system, we cannot patch the existing
extensions (our software provider must create a patched package for us
first.) If you are up to the task, you may patch those on your server,
however we will not be able to provide support for this configuration.
Alternatively, the when a pacthed extension set is made available to us,
you
will be able to apply that patch using your control panel.
_________________________________
Steve M.
Technical Support

******************************************************






Thanks Stefan, I went back to my ISP:

Your question was the following:
FRONTPAGE2003
Our Technicians response to your ticket is as follows
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-----
Hello Lesa,
We are going to send this to our Tier2 staff to see if these have
been
applied.
Thanks.
[name] Tech Staff

I've got my fingers crossed....


Right

But your online host may need to update their FP SE per the other
links




| ***********************************************
| > If running FP 2002 for info in Service Pack 1 & 2 for FP2002
/
MSO
XP -
| see:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q325671
| ***********************************************
|
| I went here: http://office.microsoft.com/OfficeUpdate/default.aspx
| And got this: Microsoft Office Update Help
| Please wait. Checking for Office
updates
you
need...
| 100% complete
| Your Office products do not need any
updates.
| Note that this site only supports Office
2000,
| Office XP and Office 2003 products.
|
| This means I'm OK and up-to-date right?
|
|
| ***********************************************
| > For the Host/Server running the FP2002 SE
| > For Unix server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299360
| > The latest FP SE for Unix that fix the problems
| > (FPSE 2000 1.4 patch and an FPSE 2002 SR 1.1 patch)
| > are at http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport
| ************************************************
|
| I got this response from My ISP: Apollo Hosting
| -------------------------------------------------------------
| Hello Lesa,
| We are currently using the MS Frontpage 2002 Extensions v.
5.0.2.2623
| That security bulletin is from September 25, 2002. I believe
these
are
| the latest frontpage extensions available.
| Microsoft's website:
|
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnservext/h
tml/fpse02unix.asp
|
| I got this from the Microsoft website for Unix
| All Web administrators hosting Web sites extended with the
Microsoft
| FrontPage Server Extensions should download
| and install the FrontPage Server Extensions version 2002 for
the
| appropriate platform and operating system.
| The current version is 5.0.2.2623
|
| This looks like my host is up-to-date and not missing any patches,
correct?
|
|
|
| **************************************************************
| > For NT server problems on the FP2002 SE see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298827
| > For FrontPage Server Extension 2002 Update - see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q317296
| > and security patch
| >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/MS02-053.asp
| > *************************************************************
| I'm pretty sure the following doesn't apply because I'm running
| WindowsXP-home, correct?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | > |
| > | Thank you, Stefan....errors on that page are now fixed but the
| duplicating
| > | code problem remains
| > | I had planned to use this table [testbgcc.htm] as an include
many
times
| over
| > | on this website.
| > | I can go ahead and split it into two separate tables
[bgcc01.htm
and
| > | bgcc02.htm] as I did in page03.htm.
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm as a
quick
fix to
| > | make it work.
| > | I'm just concerned that I might be ignoring a major error I've
made
that
| > | will cause big problems later...
| > | And I'd like to understand what I did wrong so I don't repeat
errors.
| > |
| > | Lesa
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Your Include page at
| > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/mininav.htm is
broken
| > | > - missing </html> after </body>
| > | > Also delete the empty table tags before </body>
| > | > <table>
| > | > </table>
| > | > And the odd center tags after
| > | > </td>
| > | > </center>
| > | > plus
| > | > </td>
| > | > <center>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > |
| > | > | Mike, yes...and the problem is that I didn't put it
there.....
| > | > |
| > | > | There are two different includes in page01
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/mininav.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | > | TAG="BODY" -->
| > | > |
| > | > | The problem begins with the second include, testbgcc.htm:
| > | > | when you view the source In IEv6, after the webbot
begins
with:
| > | > | <!--webbot bot="Include"
U-Include="../includes/testbgcc.htm"
| > | TAG="BODY"
| > | > | startspan -->
| > | > | the previous html code of the page is duplicated and
THEN
the
| code
| > | for
| > | > | testbgcc.htm begins.
| > | > | [ you can view the actual code for the include here:
| > | > | http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm]
| > | > |
| > | > | The duplicated source code after "startspan" is a
spontaneous
| > | generation
| > | > | ...I didn't put it there, I don't know what's causing
it
or
how
to
| get
| > | rid
| > | > | of it...
| > | > |
| > | > | Lesa
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Lesa,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The include is in the page source twice.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
| > | > | > http://www.websunlimited.com
| > | > | > FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000
Compatible
| > | > | >
| > | > | | > | > | > > Running WindowsXP-Home
| > | > | > > Using FrontPage2003 at ISP on Apache w/2002FPSE
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I have an include which is a background-changer using
| javascript.
| > | It is
| > | > | > > made with a table that is 19 rows x 17 columns and
requires
an
| > | "onclick"
| > | > | by
| > | > | > > the viewer to work. This include looks OK in FP design
view
and
| > | works in
| > | > | FP
| > | > | > > preview
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 1. When inserted on a webpage with anything on it, it
duplicates
| the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content:
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page01.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > 2. When I split the include into 2 parts with each part
being no
| > | more
| > | > | than
| > | > | > > 10 rows long [i.e. I am inserting two includes on the
web
page
| to
| > | make
| > | > | the
| > | > | > > table ] it works OK in IE v6
| > | > | > > http://motzgraphics.com/animations/tests/page03.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The page being used as an include:
| > | > | > >
http://motzgraphics.com/animations/includes/testbgcc.htm
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > So far in order to correct the problem of the include
| duplicating
| > | the
| > | > | page
| > | > | > > content, I have:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Carefully examined the code on the web pages, looking
for
any
| open
| > | tags
| > | > | or
| > | > | > > bad html.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > In windows explorer, deleted all .tmp files including
those
in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\local settings\temp and in
%userprofile%\temporary
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > files\frontpagetempdir
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Also deleted all .web files found including those in
| > | > | > > %userprofile%\application data\microsoft\web server
| > | extensions\cache.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Cleared the browser temporary internet and history files
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > At the Microsoft update sites, made sure all service
packs
for
| > | > | > > windowsXP-home, ms office 2003, and internet explorer
are
| installed
| > | up
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > date.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Followed the instructions in KBA 318378 [how to
reinstall
or
| repair
| > | > | internet
| > | > | > > explorer in windowsXP]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and disabled all add-ins. [ one only from
Jimco
site]
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Opened FP and ran recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > What would the next steps be to track down a
solution
?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Thanks, Lesa
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
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