INI/Hex editing/Registry/ANYTHING to set default paragraph spacing

[KairosDrasis]

Thanks for looking at my cry for help

I've search google over and over again trying to find a way to set the
default paragraph spacing, but I fail to find an answer. I'm willing to do
anything to have OneNote have "12 after" default selected. I'm a pretty
advanced user who feels comfortable with registry/hex editing, and I'd be
willing to try anything, because this is driving me nuts

If there is no solution at all... I'll have to drop OneNote regardless of
how useful it is. I can't be changing it every time I start a little note.
Nor am I going to hit the enter key twice every time I want a new paragraph
(horrific amounts of pain for manually spacing anything copy/pasted).

Thanks for any and all help. I'm just so tired of this,
Kairos

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Thanks for looking at my cry for help

I've search google over and over again trying to find a way to set the
default paragraph spacing, but I fail to find an answer. I'm willing
to do anything to have OneNote have "12 after" default selected.

I'm sorry, but I'm unable to see what you are after :-( :-(
Might you pls explain a bit?

Rainald

 

[KairosDrasis]

I'm sorry, but I'm unable to see what you are after :-( :-(
Might you pls explain a bit?

Rainald

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Sure. Open OneNote, and select any text that has more than 1 paragraph.
Click on paragraph alignment (as if you were going to select left, center, or
right align) and click the last option: "Paragraph Spacing Options". It will
give you options for Before, After, and "at least". In the "after" box I
need this value to be 12 default, so whenever I make new text, the will all
have this setting.

Thanks for the quick reply ^_^

 

[KairosDrasis]

Nobody? Looks like I'm going to have to use something else. Goodbye onenote

 

[Bernd]

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Nobody? Looks like I'm going to have to use something else. Goodbye onenote

Goodbye KairosDrasis ...

Bernd

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Goodbye KairosDrasis ...

As a variation of the good old "St. James Infirmary Blues":
Let him go, let him go,
God bless him,
Wherever he may be.
He may look the whole world over,
Never find a thing as good as OneNoteeeee
<gbg>

Rainald

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Nobody? Looks like I'm going to have to use something else. Goodbye
onenote

I'm awfully sorry. But dropping OneNote just because of line-spacing
seems rather ridiculous to me. {siiiiigh}.

I have been working with ON for may long years and I dare to say that I
could not do my work without it.
Although Layout and Typography always have been of major concern for me
when producing *documents*, O never ever missed advanced line-spacing in
OneNote.

I simply do not understand you.
Why could this be an important issue at all?

Rainald

 

[KairosDrasis]

I'm awfully sorry. But dropping OneNote just because of line-spacing

seems rather ridiculous to me. {siiiiigh}.
I have been working with ON for may long years and I dare to say that I could not do my work without it.
Although Layout and Typography always have been of major concern for me when producing *documents*, O never ever missed advanced line-spacing in OneNote.
I simply do not understand you.
Why could this be an important issue at all?
Rainald

Why? First, lets say I just manually did it each time. That would require
me to click 7 times before being about to type something new.
This, while being frustrating, is still okay if you only do it a few times a
day. I'm not doing it a few times. I was planing on transferring all of my
notes from various places. Something I hoped would be a simple cut/paste
procedure, but turned into a 10 click bother. If I had 100 notes, that'd be
1000 clicks, instead of 200.
What if I didn't set the line spacing each time? Well then it would looked
like a squashed dump of text. I don't understand how anyone could read
something without spacing.Go to an excel sheet and remove all formatting.
You can still read it, but It would annoy you.
It's not the big things that annoy me, but the small irritating things that
wear on you over time. This is one of those small little things, where you
could see how it would be a very useful program, but it's a thorn in your
side. A thorn that I didn't feel like dealing with. So I stopped.
Btw, there isn't a registry setting for this. I used process monitor to
detect what onenote looks for on startup and sadly no option. I assume the
only way would be to hex edit the executable itself, but that's beyond my
understanding. I could do it if someone told me where to edit, but I am
unable to figure that location out for myself.
Lastly, I was going to fill it with a lot of dialog. The dialog would
generally end before a new line, and a block of quotes just doesn't flow. I
know that you probably think I'm lame for this, but it's just a personal
preference that I'll deal with word and my own folder system instead.
Thanks again for reading,
Kairos

 

[Grant]

I agree, it's an extremely annoying flaw on an otherwise excellent application. No leading between paragraph results in notes that have poor readability--when you've outlined 300 pages of a textbook, you care that the resulting outline is easy to parse visually.

It's just a lack of attention to one usability element. It's probably a trivial configuration setting.



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[Rainald Taesler]

I agree, it's an extremely annoying flaw on an otherwise excellent

application. No leading between paragraph results in notes that have
poor readability--when you've outlined 300 pages of a textbook, you
care that the resulting outline is easy to parse visually.

For a giant project like that ON - as much as love it - IMHO is not the
proper instrument.

It's just a lack of attention to one usability element. It's probably
a trivial configuration setting.

Neither a lack of attention.
Nor a "trivial" thing to implement.
He who produces such assumption just has no knowledge of the very
specific format of ON which enables so many things not being available
in other applications.

ON is good for at least 10O1 things.
But it definitely is not a replacement for a fully blown word-processor
as MS Word.

If you need different spacing even for an *outline*, why don't you just
work with Word?
The latter just offers really great outline features. Just use them.

Rainald

 

[Grant]

Why isn't ON the proper instrument? It has few if any other issues (kudos to the team there). It has some irksome UX issues, but it has no problem with the volume of content I'm editing. If you re-read my comment, it had nothing to do with ON's ability to handle the content, it's purely about rendering it in a more readable fashion.

Telling me to use Word is idiotic. I already export to Word to fix the leading issue. Why deflect from the actual issue: this is a simple setting that should be enabled somewhere in the application.

It already has the requisite feature (Paragraph button, line spacing)... so it has the user interaction and the ability to serialize the format in its files. Your comment suggests you don't actually have a foundational understanding of how an application like ON works internally.

In any event, I wrote my own macro in AutoHotkey to do what the MSFT dev team hasn't. Problem solved.


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[Magnus ...]

Nobody? Looks like I'm going to have to use something else. Goodbye onenote

I agree this is very annoying. Before giving up, have you tried writing an
AutoHotkey script to implement this? Basically, I would go for something
close to the following

On Ctrl+Shift+N:
- Switch to OneNote (if not active already)
- Send ctrl+n (to create a new note)
- Send a combination of keyboard/mouse events to set the line spacing

Pain? Yes
Worth it to avoid scrapping OneNote? Perhaps, only you can say.

Best,
Magnus

ps. If you were to write this script, I would be very interested in it (but
the issue does not bother me enough for me to write it myself).