Ink groups versus Paragraph terminology

[Ernie Nagy]

I am getting frustrated with having so many ink groups
floating around my Onenote notes. I've tried the
suggestions regarding adjusting the display of the
writing guide ... but I still seem to have the same
problems. I don't want to spend ten minutes cleaning up
five minutes of notes just so that they will ocr properly
and be presentable. The tool whose description is 'make
current paragraph a continuation of the previous para'
(must be some shorthand for that tool's name?) doesn't
seem to work consistantly, or I am unable to figure out
its nuances to make it work consistantly. It seems only
to occassionally join ink groups, and only then if they
are touching each other. Am I mistaken in using the
terms ink group and paragraph interchangably? I have
another week before I have to decide to return my new
m200 back to Toshiba. Any suggestions? Thanks for any
assistance anyone is able to give me.

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

1) I hope OneNote isn't the driving force behind your keeping or returning
the Toshiba.
2) it takes practice to get handwriting down so the sentences continue
naturally instead of starting new inkgroups.
3) the tool should work consistently if all selections are handwriting, not
a mix of handwriting and drawing.


--
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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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[Ernie Nagy]

Diane,
1. Yes, OneNote is the main reason I purchased the M200.
I have another laptop with a larger, higher resolution
screen that is a lot easier to view for extended
periods. I am returning to school after many years as a
software developer and I though that taking notes with a
pen a tablet would be easier then typing.

2. Can you suggest a way to practice handwriting? I try
to be careful to to write in the writing guide when I see
it appear on the line below the one I am writing on, but
I still seem to get separate ink groups fairly often. Are
ink groups the same as paragraphs as far as the join to
previous para. tool goes? Can ink grouping be turned off?

3. When I use the join to previous para. tool is there
any visable indication that the join worked successfully?
Do the two paragraphs need to be touching for this to
work?

Thanks for taking the time to repond.

Ernie Nagy

-----Original Message-----
1) I hope OneNote isn't the driving force behind your keeping or returning
the Toshiba.
2) it takes practice to get handwriting down so the sentences continue
naturally instead of starting new inkgroups.
3) the tool should work consistently if all selections are handwriting, not
a mix of handwriting and drawing.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)


Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
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I am getting frustrated with having so many ink groups
floating around my Onenote notes. I've tried the
suggestions regarding adjusting the display of the
writing guide ... but I still seem to have the same
problems. I don't want to spend ten minutes cleaning up
five minutes of notes just so that they will ocr properly
and be presentable. The tool whose description is 'make
current paragraph a continuation of the previous para'
(must be some shorthand for that tool's name?) doesn't
seem to work consistantly, or I am unable to figure out
its nuances to make it work consistantly. It seems only
to occassionally join ink groups, and only then if they
are touching each other. Am I mistaken in using the
terms ink group and paragraph interchangably? I have
another week before I have to decide to return my new
m200 back to Toshiba. Any suggestions? Thanks for any
assistance anyone is able to give me.

.

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

Are you using the lined notes? Turn on lines and remember back to grade
school.. "Stay between the lines" <g> View, rule lines menu - choose the
size that best fits your writing size and write on the line, trying not to
go above the upper line.

When you join the groups, it should just merge - if you use darker note
containers (tools, options, show note containers) it's easier to see what is
going on until you get used to it. if you pause long between words it'll
make new containers. Also, don't let yourself get too worked up over note
containers- it really only matters if you plan to convert writing to text.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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Diane,
1. Yes, OneNote is the main reason I purchased the M200.
I have another laptop with a larger, higher resolution
screen that is a lot easier to view for extended
periods. I am returning to school after many years as a
software developer and I though that taking notes with a
pen a tablet would be easier then typing.

2. Can you suggest a way to practice handwriting? I try
to be careful to to write in the writing guide when I see
it appear on the line below the one I am writing on, but
I still seem to get separate ink groups fairly often. Are
ink groups the same as paragraphs as far as the join to
previous para. tool goes? Can ink grouping be turned off?

3. When I use the join to previous para. tool is there
any visable indication that the join worked successfully?
Do the two paragraphs need to be touching for this to
work?

Thanks for taking the time to repond.

Ernie Nagy

-----Original Message-----
1) I hope OneNote isn't the driving force behind your keeping or returning
the Toshiba.
2) it takes practice to get handwriting down so the sentences continue
naturally instead of starting new inkgroups.
3) the tool should work consistently if all selections are handwriting, not
a mix of handwriting and drawing.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)


Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote- tips.net/

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I am getting frustrated with having so many ink groups
floating around my Onenote notes. I've tried the
suggestions regarding adjusting the display of the
writing guide ... but I still seem to have the same
problems. I don't want to spend ten minutes cleaning up
five minutes of notes just so that they will ocr properly
and be presentable. The tool whose description is 'make
current paragraph a continuation of the previous para'
(must be some shorthand for that tool's name?) doesn't
seem to work consistantly, or I am unable to figure out
its nuances to make it work consistantly. It seems only
to occassionally join ink groups, and only then if they
are touching each other. Am I mistaken in using the
terms ink group and paragraph interchangably? I have
another week before I have to decide to return my new
m200 back to Toshiba. Any suggestions? Thanks for any
assistance anyone is able to give me.

.

 

[Chris_Pratley \(MS\)]

Also, don;t forget to install the new Sp1 - that has a lto of tweaks to the
product including several for handwriting. (help/Check for Updates). Note
that if you have the Toshiba, you may need to follow the special
instaruction for Toshiba users:

Are you using the lined notes? Turn on lines and remember back to grade
school.. "Stay between the lines" <g> View, rule lines menu - choose the
size that best fits your writing size and write on the line, trying not to
go above the upper line.

When you join the groups, it should just merge - if you use darker note
containers (tools, options, show note containers) it's easier to see what is
going on until you get used to it. if you pause long between words it'll
make new containers. Also, don't let yourself get too worked up over note
containers- it really only matters if you plan to convert writing to text.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

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Diane,
1. Yes, OneNote is the main reason I purchased the M200.
I have another laptop with a larger, higher resolution
screen that is a lot easier to view for extended
periods. I am returning to school after many years as a
software developer and I though that taking notes with a
pen a tablet would be easier then typing.

2. Can you suggest a way to practice handwriting? I try
to be careful to to write in the writing guide when I see
it appear on the line below the one I am writing on, but
I still seem to get separate ink groups fairly often. Are
ink groups the same as paragraphs as far as the join to
previous para. tool goes? Can ink grouping be turned off?

3. When I use the join to previous para. tool is there
any visable indication that the join worked successfully?
Do the two paragraphs need to be touching for this to
work?

Thanks for taking the time to repond.

Ernie Nagy

-----Original Message-----
1) I hope OneNote isn't the driving force behind your keeping or returning
the Toshiba.
2) it takes practice to get handwriting down so the sentences continue
naturally instead of starting new inkgroups.
3) the tool should work consistently if all selections are handwriting, not
a mix of handwriting and drawing.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)


Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote- tips.net/

Vote for your favorite Outlook and Exchange utilities in the
Slipstick Ratings Raffle at http://www.slipstick.com/contest/

I am getting frustrated with having so many ink groups
floating around my Onenote notes. I've tried the
suggestions regarding adjusting the display of the
writing guide ... but I still seem to have the same
problems. I don't want to spend ten minutes cleaning up
five minutes of notes just so that they will ocr properly
and be presentable. The tool whose description is 'make
current paragraph a continuation of the previous para'
(must be some shorthand for that tool's name?) doesn't
seem to work consistantly, or I am unable to figure out
its nuances to make it work consistantly. It seems only
to occassionally join ink groups, and only then if they
are touching each other. Am I mistaken in using the
terms ink group and paragraph interchangably? I have
another week before I have to decide to return my new
m200 back to Toshiba. Any suggestions? Thanks for any
assistance anyone is able to give me.


.

 

[Chris_Pratley \(MS\)]

Make sure you install the Sp1 update to OneNote (Help/Check for Updates).
Since you have a Toshiba, you shoudl follow the special instarutions for
Toshiba users:

Are you using the lined notes? Turn on lines and remember back to grade
school.. "Stay between the lines" <g> View, rule lines menu - choose the
size that best fits your writing size and write on the line, trying not to
go above the upper line.

When you join the groups, it should just merge - if you use darker note
containers (tools, options, show note containers) it's easier to see what is
going on until you get used to it. if you pause long between words it'll
make new containers. Also, don't let yourself get too worked up over note
containers- it really only matters if you plan to convert writing to text.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

Vote for your favorite Outlook and Exchange utilities in the
Slipstick Ratings Raffle at http://www.slipstick.com/contest/

Diane,
1. Yes, OneNote is the main reason I purchased the M200.
I have another laptop with a larger, higher resolution
screen that is a lot easier to view for extended
periods. I am returning to school after many years as a
software developer and I though that taking notes with a
pen a tablet would be easier then typing.

2. Can you suggest a way to practice handwriting? I try
to be careful to to write in the writing guide when I see
it appear on the line below the one I am writing on, but
I still seem to get separate ink groups fairly often. Are
ink groups the same as paragraphs as far as the join to
previous para. tool goes? Can ink grouping be turned off?

3. When I use the join to previous para. tool is there
any visable indication that the join worked successfully?
Do the two paragraphs need to be touching for this to
work?

Thanks for taking the time to repond.

Ernie Nagy

-----Original Message-----
1) I hope OneNote isn't the driving force behind your keeping or returning
the Toshiba.
2) it takes practice to get handwriting down so the sentences continue
naturally instead of starting new inkgroups.
3) the tool should work consistently if all selections are handwriting, not
a mix of handwriting and drawing.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)


Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote- tips.net/

Vote for your favorite Outlook and Exchange utilities in the
Slipstick Ratings Raffle at http://www.slipstick.com/contest/

I am getting frustrated with having so many ink groups
floating around my Onenote notes. I've tried the
suggestions regarding adjusting the display of the
writing guide ... but I still seem to have the same
problems. I don't want to spend ten minutes cleaning up
five minutes of notes just so that they will ocr properly
and be presentable. The tool whose description is 'make
current paragraph a continuation of the previous para'
(must be some shorthand for that tool's name?) doesn't
seem to work consistantly, or I am unable to figure out
its nuances to make it work consistantly. It seems only
to occassionally join ink groups, and only then if they
are touching each other. Am I mistaken in using the
terms ink group and paragraph interchangably? I have
another week before I have to decide to return my new
m200 back to Toshiba. Any suggestions? Thanks for any
assistance anyone is able to give me.


.

 

[Chris_Pratley \(MS\)]

Make sure you install the SP1 udpate for OneNote (Help/Check for Updates),
since this has several improvements for ink users. Since you have a Toshiba,
you may need to follow some special instructions if you get asked for the
"MSI" file during installation of the Onenote SP1 patch. (see below). Also,
don't forget to look at the tutorials on the web (Help/Microsoft Office
online) and the local OneNote tour (Help/Microsoft Office OneNote Tour)

Note Toshiba provides a compressed image of the OneNote CD on the Toshiba
'Recovery and Applications / Drivers DVD' in the '<CDROM
Drive>\COMPS\MICROSOFT OFFICE ONENOTE 20030\MANUAL' folder. There is a
single file in this folder called 'B21654A.EXE'. To extract the files
follow these steps ...
1- Double-click the file icon with the mouse.
2- An alert dialog will be displayed.
Microsoft Office OneNote 2003 W32 English OPK v. 11.5510.5606
Setup will start when extraction is complete.
Please restart your computer after installation is complete
Copyright(c) 2003 TOSHIBA Corporation. All rights reserved.
<OK>
3- Click <OK>.
4- Another dialog will be displayed that provides several installation
options. In order to extract the files without installing, remove the
'check' from the 'When done unzipping open: SETUP.EXE' check box. By
default, the files will be extracted to 'c:\OneNote2003.temp'. If a
different location is desired, change the location. Click on the <Unzip>
button.
5- A dialog with an <OK> button will be displayed with this text - '53
file(s) unzipped successfully'. Click the <OK> button.
6- Click <Close> on the 'WinZip Self-Extractor - B21654A.EXE' dialog

When OneNote 2003 SP1 Update requests the location of a file, provide the
location containing the extracted files.

Chris Pratley (MS)
OneNote team

Are you using the lined notes? Turn on lines and remember back to grade
school.. "Stay between the lines" <g> View, rule lines menu - choose the
size that best fits your writing size and write on the line, trying not to
go above the upper line.

When you join the groups, it should just merge - if you use darker note
containers (tools, options, show note containers) it's easier to see what is
going on until you get used to it. if you pause long between words it'll
make new containers. Also, don't let yourself get too worked up over note
containers- it really only matters if you plan to convert writing to text.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

Vote for your favorite Outlook and Exchange utilities in the
Slipstick Ratings Raffle at http://www.slipstick.com/contest/

Diane,
1. Yes, OneNote is the main reason I purchased the M200.
I have another laptop with a larger, higher resolution
screen that is a lot easier to view for extended
periods. I am returning to school after many years as a
software developer and I though that taking notes with a
pen a tablet would be easier then typing.

2. Can you suggest a way to practice handwriting? I try
to be careful to to write in the writing guide when I see
it appear on the line below the one I am writing on, but
I still seem to get separate ink groups fairly often. Are
ink groups the same as paragraphs as far as the join to
previous para. tool goes? Can ink grouping be turned off?

3. When I use the join to previous para. tool is there
any visable indication that the join worked successfully?
Do the two paragraphs need to be touching for this to
work?

Thanks for taking the time to repond.

Ernie Nagy

-----Original Message-----
1) I hope OneNote isn't the driving force behind your keeping or returning
the Toshiba.
2) it takes practice to get handwriting down so the sentences continue
naturally instead of starting new inkgroups.
3) the tool should work consistently if all selections are handwriting, not
a mix of handwriting and drawing.


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)


Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote- tips.net/

Vote for your favorite Outlook and Exchange utilities in the
Slipstick Ratings Raffle at http://www.slipstick.com/contest/

I am getting frustrated with having so many ink groups
floating around my Onenote notes. I've tried the
suggestions regarding adjusting the display of the
writing guide ... but I still seem to have the same
problems. I don't want to spend ten minutes cleaning up
five minutes of notes just so that they will ocr properly
and be presentable. The tool whose description is 'make
current paragraph a continuation of the previous para'
(must be some shorthand for that tool's name?) doesn't
seem to work consistantly, or I am unable to figure out
its nuances to make it work consistantly. It seems only
to occassionally join ink groups, and only then if they
are touching each other. Am I mistaken in using the
terms ink group and paragraph interchangably? I have
another week before I have to decide to return my new
m200 back to Toshiba. Any suggestions? Thanks for any
assistance anyone is able to give me.


.