Insert Word Document

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tech27

I'm having trouble trying to insert a Word document onto a page.

I would like to have the document (a testimonial letter), appear exactly at
the doc. The problem is that I can't seem to have it lay out the same (it
gets changed as if it was squeezed into a column), nor can I change the font
colour to contrast with my black background. It would be okay if I could
leave the web page as it is, and have the document be black text on white.

Thanks.
 
A

analog

It is just asking too much to be able to paste a Word doc into Publisher and
have it come out looking right. You just want too much from M$...
 
B

Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]

Hi (e-mail address removed) ([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:

|| It is just asking too much to be able to paste a Word doc into
|| Publisher and have it come out looking right. You just want too
|| much from M$...

Name one program that CAN do this from ANY company. Thanks.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
A

analog

I am no expert, but it seems curious to me that Acrobat, and its cheaper clones,
can take such a wide variety of work product file types, and produce a half
decent pdf file. So why can't a program like Publisher process a word doc that
is pasted in it and make it come out looking right? Your gawd M$ ought to be as
smart as the folks at Adobe, no? I am only suggesting that Publisher ought to
be able to take any document created in the Office suite and be smart enuff to
make it look right in Publisher. But then Publisher can't even deal with work
product files from previous versions of Publisher, can it?
 
B

Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]

Hi (e-mail address removed) ([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:

|| I am no expert, but it seems curious to me that Acrobat, and its
|| cheaper clones, can take such a wide variety of work product file
|| types, and produce a half decent pdf file.

What does that have to do with copy and pasting from Publisher to Word? or
Word to Publisher? NADA

|| So why can't a program
|| like Publisher process a word doc that is pasted in it and make it
|| come out looking right?

Why can't Adobe? And while you are answering as to why Adobe can't do this
either with other Adobe products, answer me this batman, why is it that you
talk about Cut and Paste from one product of Office into another product
within Office and then compare that do Acrobat exporting PDF?

If you want a consistent export from all MS Office applications like Adobe
is to PDF, use the MODI in Office.

|| Your gawd MS ought to be as smart as the
|| folks at Adobe, no?

Yup!

|| I am only suggesting that Publisher ought to be
|| able to take any document created in the Office suite and be smart
|| enuff to make it look right in Publisher.

I would like to be able to do that in Adobe as well. But it just doesn't
happen with them either.

|| But then Publisher can't
|| even deal with work product files from previous versions of
|| Publisher, can it?

Do you even comprehend what you are posting? Of course Publisher can deal
with publications from previous versions of Publisher.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
A

analog

|| But then Publisher can't
|| even deal with work product files from previous versions of
|| Publisher, can it?

Do you even comprehend what you are posting? Of course Publisher can deal
with publications from previous versions of Publisher.


Do you have a brain at all? Just watch the posts in here if you believe that is
true. Publisher 2002 could not handle the work product files I use in 2000.
The case was escalated, and M$'s best never solved the problem. They sent me a
refund check for the purchase price of Publisher 2002, a second copy of the
program gratis (figure that one out), a free copy of Front Page 2002, and a
stack of free M$ publications for my trouble.
 
A

analog

Responses embedded:

Hi (e-mail address removed) ([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:

|| I am no expert, but it seems curious to me that Acrobat, and its
|| cheaper clones, can take such a wide variety of work product file
|| types, and produce a half decent pdf file.

What does that have to do with copy and pasting from Publisher to Word? or
Word to Publisher? NADA

*Actually we are talking about Word to Publisher. To my lay brain, it seems to
have allot to do with it. It is technically possible that Publisher could deal
with Word documents.
|| So why can't a program
|| like Publisher process a word doc that is pasted in it and make it
|| come out looking right?

Why can't Adobe? And while you are answering as to why Adobe can't do this
either with other Adobe products, answer me this batman, why is it that you
talk about Cut and Paste from one product of Office into another product
within Office and then compare that do Acrobat exporting PDF?

*Because, moron, if Acrobat can process a Word doc into a decently renderable
pdf file, then it should have been trivial for Publisher to grab a Word doc and
make it look decent in Publisher. Should I talk slower, Robin?
If you want a consistent export from all MS Office applications like Adobe
is to PDF, use the MODI in Office.

*WTF is MODI?
|| Your gawd MS ought to be as smart as the
|| folks at Adobe, no?

Yup!

*Sorry, but they are not.
|| I am only suggesting that Publisher ought to be
|| able to take any document created in the Office suite and be smart
|| enuff to make it look right in Publisher.

I would like to be able to do that in Adobe as well. But it just doesn't
happen with them either.

*But M$ is sooo much smarter than Adobe... Acrobat works just fine with Word
docs, and from what I have seen in here, with Publisher as well.
 
B

Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]

*Actually we are talking about Word to Publisher. To my lay brain, it seems to
have allot to do with it. It is technically possible that Publisher could deal
with Word documents.

You need to take a deep breath. Relax. Now breathe out.

1. Analog states that the Copy/Paste from Microsoft Word...word processor...
(which isn't an object based program, doesn't use text boxes by default,
doesn't support color printing for commercial support, doesn't offer the
layout/snap to features), to Microsoft Publisher...a Desktop Publishing
program... is horrible and should be 100% clean of formatting flaws when
carried over because they are from the same software manufacturer. Sounds
like a good wish, but you are correct, this is not feasible (at least not
with their current technology).

2. So if we were to compare Apples to Apples, lets just use Corel for this
analogy. We have Corel WordPerfect 12...word processor. And then we have
(your choice of the two) Corel Ventura...Desktop Publishing program. If you
were to Copy/Paste from Corel WordPerfect 12 into Corel Ventura 10, you have
formatting loss as you would with Word and Publisher. Corel makes both
programs, and they are NOT compatible in the way you mention. And let me
repeat the quote from Analog "It is just asking too much to be able to paste
a Word doc into Publisher and have it come out looking right. You just want
too much from M$..." So in this scenario, it appears that you want too much
from Corel as well.

3. And Oranges to Oranges now. Adobe PageMaker (we will pretend this is a
word processor) and Adobe InDesign...Desktop Publishing program. Yup, you
guessed it...same thing. Format loss. Same company.
*Because, moron

Have you thought about carrying out a mature reply while addressing my
questions?
if Acrobat can process a Word doc into a decently renderable
pdf file, then it should have been trivial for Publisher to grab a Word doc and
make it look decent in Publisher. Should I talk slower, Robin?

Do you know what Acrobat is???! It's is a program DESIGNED for the EXCHANGE
of EXISTING publications, documents, spreadsheets etc throughout businesses
and corporations to share. Now r e m e m b e r , I said EXISTING
publications. Acrobat is a big ol engine for conversion to a standard format
(PDF) which can be printed by a commercial printer, or viewed in Adobe
Reader for general business use. Acrobat CANNOT be used to convert say, and
Adobe Illustrator file to be read in Adobe Pagemaker.

So NOW what you are saying (I wish you would quit changing the subject) is
that you want Publisher AND Word to have a built in engine so that Word can
Convert to Publisher without formatting loss. But EVEN Adobe can't do this.
Adobe needs a PDF READER to read it's exported files. So now, if you want
Microsoft to have a common exportable and readable file that doesn't have
any formatting loss, and then be able to open it up in a similar program
such as Adobe Reader, Microsoft ALREADY does this. It's called MODI -
Microsoft Office Document Imaging. How do they relate?

1. Adobe Acrobat - Adobe PDF printer driver = Microsoft Office Document
Image Writer printer driver (included with all Office 2003 apps)
2. Adobe Reader = Microsoft Office Document Imaging (included with all
Office 2003 apps)

You say Acrobat can process a Word doc into a decently renderable pdf file.
Well, Microsoft Office Document Image Writer can also turn a Publisher,
Word, Powerpoint, Project, Excel, OneNote, Access, Outlook, Visio (etc.)
decently renderable mdi file which can be viewed in Microsoft Office
Document Imaging (which as I mentioned, is included with ANY Office
standalone prodcut or Office Suites). And not ONLY that, but Microsofot
Office Document Imaging can ALSO render other Office Suites, such as Corel
WordPerfect, OpenOffice.org, or even say Adobe PageMaker. It operates in a
similar way you would create at PDF file. If you were to say open Corel Draw
12, and then go to File > Print and you chose Microsoft Office Document
Image Writer printer driver (instead of Adobe PDF printer driver), you would
get a decently renderable output which can be viewed in MODI (yes, that is
WTF that is!)
*WTF is MODI?

Ahh, still not quite a Jedi I see. Much to learn, you have.
*Sorry, but they are not.

Do you have a cite or link that states otherwise? You mean that since 1986,
the $40,000,000,000 Microsoft has spent on Research & Development has gone
to waste, and that they are not a smarter, more efficient, innovative
company because of it? Wouldn't you think that if they were not a smart
company, that their sales would be down? Up until last year, only 3 of the 7
business units were profitable. And now, in 2004, 4 of the 7 business units
are profitable. They consistently have increased not only revenue, but
income as well. But I seriously would like to see a cite or link that
states "Sorry, but they are not"

Like I said, it's a good wish, and I think you shoud send it to
(e-mail address removed) . But ya just can't single out MS, because I have not
seen a SINGLE software company that can do what you have wished for.

Before you reply, do me a favor....READ my replies. And if you have anything
of importance or value you to add, address the post properly.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
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analog

You are the one that started with the insults way back. You are a disgrace to
M$ as an MVP, and do nothing but make excuses for their software. Your use
defective logic in your arguments and distort what I have said. It is pointless
to discuss this with you. The bottom line is that M$ has done a poor job with
Publisher, especially with respect to website applications, and you and a few
other MVPs seem to be the only ones that do not know it. Riddle me this, Robin:
Do you suppose M$ refunded my money, and gave me hundreds of dollars worth of
software and books because Publisher works like a charm?
 
T

tech27

Could anyone please turn off the flamethrowers and answer my question
please?

I managed to do it using copy/paste but I had to insert a text box for the
target in Publisher.

Is this the only way?

Thanks.
 
B

Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]

Hi tech27 ([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:
|| I managed to do it using copy/paste but I had to insert a text box
|| for the target in Publisher.
||
|| Is this the only way?

This is a limitation. You can copy/paste or you can using the Import Word
Document feature under the file menu in Publisher 2002/2003.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
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tech27

No, I just wear a silk thong.
The posters weren't flaming me, they just got into a whole MS sucks/doesn't
suck thing.
In fact, the only thing they DIDN'T touch on was my question.


JoAnn Paules said:
No asbestos undies? ;-)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tech27 said:
Could anyone please turn off the flamethrowers and answer my question
please?

I managed to do it using copy/paste but I had to insert a text box for the
target in Publisher.

Is this the only way?

Thanks.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Okay...................waaaaaay too much information.

I'm willing to try to help. Which version of Publisher? Which version of
Word?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tech27 said:
No, I just wear a silk thong.
The posters weren't flaming me, they just got into a whole MS
sucks/doesn't
suck thing.
In fact, the only thing they DIDN'T touch on was my question.


JoAnn Paules said:
No asbestos undies? ;-)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tech27 said:
Could anyone please turn off the flamethrowers and answer my question
please?

I managed to do it using copy/paste but I had to insert a text box for the
target in Publisher.

Is this the only way?

Thanks.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

You weren't saying that a few weeks ago.You sent me a nasty-gram via email.

But anyway, let's see if we can get you up and running.
 

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