Inserted Symbols

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Medic8

Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Processor: Intel I am working on some notes and have inserted open parenthesis in my notes to show a number of lines are related in notebook view. When I try to print the document the symbols do not print even though they show up in print preview, print layout, notebook layout and publishing layout. I have checked the boxes for drawing anchors and drawing objects in the preferences view and print menus
 
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John McGhie

Make sure the symbols are anchored in the TEXT not in the header or footer.

Turn on Object Anchors in Word>Preferences>View... So you can see where the
anchors are.

Hope this helps


Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Processor: Intel I am
working on some notes and have inserted open parenthesis in my notes to show a
number of lines are related in notebook view. When I try to print the document
the symbols do not print even though they show up in print preview, print
layout, notebook layout and publishing layout. I have checked the boxes for
drawing anchors and drawing objects in the preferences view and print menus

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CyberTaz

You need to select an object before its anchor will appear & in some cases
you may also need to drag the object ever so slightly... Unlike paragraph
marks & other non-printing characters object anchors don't just "show up".

I'm not certain that's the issue, though. What are these 'symbols' you are
referring to & how/from where did you 'insert' them?

Have you checked the mfr's site to make sure you have the most current
driver for your printer?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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John McGhie

No :)

Too many brain-dead people tried to do bad things with attachments, they are
disabled on the web server. On the news server, nobody likely to know the
answer would be silly enough to download one :)

Cheers


Am I able to add an attachment here? I can send you the portion of the file in
question. In my pharmacology course notes I have three bulleted points that
are also tied together so behind them I inserted an open bracket/parenthesis.
It is theis symbol that shows up on all the views but not on the printed copy.

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John McGhie

A 07D is a right curly bracket: }

If that won't print, it's either behind something, or in a font that does
not contain the character.

If it's "behind" the text, select the text box and choose "Bring to Front".
Remove the fill from the text box so it doesn't block off the text.

Hope this helps


The unicode character I inserted was Unicode Character 007D

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CyberTaz

Hi John;

That seems to be the info that's missing... Were these braces inserted as
characters or were they inserted as/into graphic objects? If inserted as
characters & they display in Print Preview they should print unless there is
a problem with the printer/driver, right?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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John McGhie

I am assuming that "Include with document: Drawing objects" is switched on
in preferences.

The only other thing that I can think of that would cause this would be if
the anchor for the text box had been given the "Hidden" character property.
This is getting a long way out on the "very unlikely" scale of things,
because a user would "know" if they had been playing around with hidden
text.

But if the text containing the anchor of a graphic is set to "hidden", and
the document is set to show "Hidden Text", and you print: the picture
doesn't print.

I would expect a bad printer driver to print "something", or "nothing"; not
to print "some characters but not others". The print driver basically
converts the document to PostScript. Some drivers then go one step further
and convert the PostScript to a raster image at the printer's native
resolution.

I am running on the hypothesis that if you see output from other
applications, the printer driver is OK. If you then see bad output from
Word, you need to check that Word is using the SAME driver for the physical
printer involved. If it is, the problem is not the printer driver...

But I am running out of ideas on this issue... I think we really need to
know whether this character has been inserted as a character or as a graphic
object.

Cheers


Hi John;

That seems to be the info that's missing... Were these braces inserted as
characters or were they inserted as/into graphic objects? If inserted as
characters & they display in Print Preview they should print unless there is
a problem with the printer/driver, right?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

--

The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!

John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:[email protected]
 
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CyberTaz

Well, perhaps I'm relying on historical references that date back beyond my
actual years ;-) but...

<snip>
I would expect a bad printer driver to print "something", or "nothing"; not
to print "some characters but not others".
<snip>

....what about printers which use built-in fonts?

To Medic8:

What type of printer are you using? Have you tried printing to a different
one? What happens if you just type the {} from the keyboard rather than
inserting them from Character Viewer?

We still need details about how these characters have been "inserted".

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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Medic8

The object was inserted using the object palette and then adjusted to be able to span the three points I needed included. I think I may have found a solution in that when I converted all my text from the comic sans MS that I was using to Arial Narrow it will print out the curly bracket. The printer/printers I have been using are a RICOH Aficio MP 161 PS and a Lexmark X4550 with the same results on both. It does not matter if my document is saved in the .docx format or in the compatibility mode. My document is setup under Notebook Layout. I am using comic sans MS fonts and bulleted point form. show drawings and include with documents, drawings are both check marked. I have no idea about the whether the anchor objects has been set to hidden as I do not recall playing with that. I very much appreciate the time and trouble put into trying to help me with this and at this time it appears the only thing I can do is to change my font back to Arial Narrow
 
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John McGhie

Comic Sans SHOULD have been shot at birth :)

http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=07052007

So the story goes, it was a "skunk works" project that "escaped". Sadly, as
soon as Grade Six and the Death by PowerPoint brigade got hold of it, it
spread like measles. No OS manufacturer now would dare to remove it {sob!}

The actual author of the font is not backing away: he's proud of it :)

http://www.connare.com/whycomic.htm

On the Apple, chances are if you substitute "Chalkboard" font (which is a
direct Cupertino photocopy of the Redmond font...) the problem may go away.

Cheers


The object was inserted using the object palette and then adjusted to be able
to span the three points I needed included. I think I may have found a
solution in that when I converted all my text from the comic sans MS that I
was using to Arial Narrow it will print out the curly bracket. The
printer/printers I have been using are a RICOH Aficio MP 161 PS and a Lexmark
X4550 with the same results on both. It does not matter if my document is
saved in the .docx format or in the compatibility mode. My document is setup
under Notebook Layout. I am using comic sans MS fonts and bulleted point form.
show drawings and include with documents, drawings are both check marked. I
have no idea about the whether the anchor objects has been set to hidden as I
do not recall playing with that. I very much appreciate the time and trouble
put into trying to help me with this and at this time it appears the only
thing I can do is to change my font back to Arial Narrow

This email is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless you intend to pay!
 

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