Inserting page numbers

[editor]

In Officer 2004, Word 11.3, for Mac OS 10.4.9, the "page numbers"
command is suddenly missing from my "insert" menu ... Any idea of how
to get it back?

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

First, make sure you didn't accidentally turn on "Word 5.1 Menus". Look
under View to see if there's a check next to that option, and uncheck it
if so. If that isn't the problem:

If you go to Tools | Customize Toolbars/Menus, select the Menu Bar, and
click Reset, it should set all your main menus and built-in toolbars
back to the default.

If you have customized your menus or toolbars, you may want to explore
the Tools | Customize, Commands dialog, and drag the commands you are
missing back to the toolbars/menus yourself, rather than wipe out your
customizations by clicking Reset.

 

[little_creature]

First, make sure you didn't accidentally turn on "Word 5.1 Menus". Look
under View to see if there's a check next to that option, and uncheck it
if so. If that isn't the problem:

If you go to Tools | Customize Toolbars/Menus, select the Menu Bar, and
click Reset, it should set all your main menus and built-in toolbars
back to the default.

If you have customized your menus or toolbars, you may want to explore
the Tools | Customize, Commands dialog, and drag the commands you are
missing back to the toolbars/menus yourself, rather than wipe out your
customizations by clicking Reset.

Or alternatively you can try to do pages by using fields. this gives
you more freedom.
1. Display Heathers/Footers and type there {PAGE}. The {} are not
common
brackets, you will instert them by APPLE+F9 and then type page.
2. Then select what you type, right mouse click and say toogle fields
codes.

If you want to start numbering from let say 5th page type and will
start from number 1.
{IF { PAGE} > 4 { PAGE -4} ""}
Be aware this is space sensitive, so might get you some time to write
it correctly.
Hope this will help.

 

[Peter Jamieson]

Hello little_creature

To achieve what you are suggesting, I think you would need a couple more
fields, e.g.

{ IF { PAGE } > 4 { ={ PAGE } - 4} "" }

Peter Jamieson

 

[little_creature]

Hello little_creature

To achieve what you are suggesting, I think you would need a couple more
fields, e.g.

{ IF { PAGE } > 4 { ={ PAGE } - 4} "" }

hello Peter
I have tried on PC word 2003 {IF { PAGE} > 4 { PAGE -4} ""} and
working as supposed
My starts numbering on 5th page by number 5, which is used in book
where you do not want to number first few pages.
Whereas yours starts numbering form first page by -3 and continues to
0 on 4th page and 1 on 5th page... I don't want to sound rude. I think
the yours has been mentioned not to show numbers on first 4th pages
and starts by number 1 on 5th. But that needs alteration.
Hope you understand

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Well, *I* think you should BOTH be taken out and firmly spoken to for using
computed page numbers

These are very bad news in a multi-user setting such as an office. No-one
other than the Author can tell that the page numbers field has been fiddled
with. This can lead to some very strange and dysfunctional behaviour from
other users who cannot get control of the page numbering. I have even seen
users attempting to "type" the page numbers. Or end up with two conflicting
sets of page numbers.

For that reason, I always recommend that users should put the page number
field in the Running Footer, and they should use a Section Break to restart
or change the page numbering. That way, even unskilled users can see at a
glance what is going on.

The only time I would use computed page numbers is if I were
programmatically generating the document and no human was ever going to have
to edit it. Even then, I would probably use a section break to reset the
numbering to start from "1", because I would want the cover page to have no
page number at all, and the front matter to have lowercase roman page
numbers.

Cheers

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[Clive Huggan]

On 30/4/07 10:46 AM, in article #[email protected], "John

... I always recommend that users should put the page number
field in the Running Footer, and they should use a Section Break to restart
or change the page numbering. That way, even unskilled users can see at a
glance what is going on.

I wholeheartedly agree with John.

For anyone who would like fuller details, see page 60 of "Bend Word to Your
Will", available as a free download from the Word MVPs' website
(http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).

[Note: "Bend Word to your will" is designed to be used electronically and
most subjects are self-contained dictionary-style entries. If you decide to
read more widely than the item I've referred to, it's important to read the
front end of the document -- especially pages 3 and 5 -- so you can select
some Word settings that will allow you to use the document effectively.]

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================

 

[little_creature]

Hi John and Clive,
I always has been bad lady and seems soon I will be death lady

I remember that day I trimed the dress to make skirt from them because they
were so tight and my mum was driven up the wall and she still remembers this
even it's more than 10 years now. Do I like shortcuts? Well, I did the
section break and restarting numbering once on PC and it was a bit painful
for me...

Ok, I do get your point, and I confess you are right with common-users, but
I also confess I will do it with my documents forwards ;-), it's faster...
But I will take into accounts needs of other users as well - I will train
students .

Bad lady
I understand. Will you tweak my ears?

On 30/4/07 10:46 AM, in article #[email protected], "John

... I always recommend that users should put the page number
field in the Running Footer, and they should use a Section Break to restart
or change the page numbering. That way, even unskilled users can see at a
glance what is going on.

I wholeheartedly agree with John.

For anyone who would like fuller details, see page 60 of "Bend Word to Your
Will", available as a free download from the Word MVPs' website
(http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).

[Note: "Bend Word to your will" is designed to be used electronically and
most subjects are self-contained dictionary-style entries. If you decide to
read more widely than the item I've referred to, it's important to read the
front end of the document -- especially pages 3 and 5 -- so you can select
some Word settings that will allow you to use the document effectively.]

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================

 

[Clive Huggan]

Well, LC, I have had little incidents in my life that my family remind me
of, *20* years later! But I'm not telling!

(Your reference to tweaking ears suddenly brought back the long-forgotten
pain of a school teacher doing that to me. I have long since forgotten what
I did to deserve it -- though I have forgotten little of the French language
he taught me, and none of the love of that language and the underlying
culture that produced it.)

One of the best things about Word is that you can usually do things more
than one way -- as you know well. And the one we choose depends usually on
the type of documents we work on, the type of person we are, and the phase
of the moon (according to Elliott -- and I think he's right). So if the
moon is in the right phase, who knows -- I might do it your way!

Cheers,

Clive
=======

Hi John and Clive,
I always has been bad lady and seems soon I will be death lady

I remember that day I trimed the dress to make skirt from them because they
were so tight and my mum was driven up the wall and she still remembers this
even it's more than 10 years now. Do I like shortcuts? Well, I did the
section break and restarting numbering once on PC and it was a bit painful
for me...

Ok, I do get your point, and I confess you are right with common-users, but
I also confess I will do it with my documents forwards ;-), it's faster...
But I will take into accounts needs of other users as well - I will train
students .

Bad lady
I understand. Will you tweak my ears?

On 30/4/07 10:46 AM, in article #[email protected], "John

... I always recommend that users should put the page number
field in the Running Footer, and they should use a Section Break to restart
or change the page numbering. That way, even unskilled users can see at a
glance what is going on.

I wholeheartedly agree with John.

For anyone who would like fuller details, see page 60 of "Bend Word to Your
Will", available as a free download from the Word MVPs' website
(http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).

[Note: "Bend Word to your will" is designed to be used electronically and
most subjects are self-contained dictionary-style entries. If you decide to
read more widely than the item I've referred to, it's important to read the
front end of the document -- especially pages 3 and 5 -- so you can select
some Word settings that will allow you to use the document effectively.]

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Hi LC:

No, sorry, we're not allowed to tweak the ears of naughty persons any
more -- that's assault.

We would send you to stand in the corner by yourself. Except that John,
John, Clive and Daiya are already standing in the corner, so the corners are
all full.

We will put your toys on the high shelf for a week!! And if there's any
more of this, you will have to stay after school!!

Cheers

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Hi John and Clive,
I always has been bad lady and seems soon I will be death lady

I remember that day I trimed the dress to make skirt from them because
they
were so tight and my mum was driven up the wall and she still remembers
this
even it's more than 10 years now. Do I like shortcuts? Well, I did the
section break and restarting numbering once on PC and it was a bit painful
for me...

Ok, I do get your point, and I confess you are right with common-users,
but
I also confess I will do it with my documents forwards ;-), it's faster...
But I will take into accounts needs of other users as well - I will train
students .

Bad lady
I understand. Will you tweak my ears?

On 30/4/07 10:46 AM, in article #[email protected],
"John

... I always recommend that users should put the page number
field in the Running Footer, and they should use a Section Break to
restart
or change the page numbering. That way, even unskilled users can see at
a
glance what is going on.

I wholeheartedly agree with John.

For anyone who would like fuller details, see page 60 of "Bend Word to
Your
Will", available as a free download from the Word MVPs' website
(http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).

[Note: "Bend Word to your will" is designed to be used electronically and
most subjects are self-contained dictionary-style entries. If you decide
to
read more widely than the item I've referred to, it's important to read
the
front end of the document -- especially pages 3 and 5 -- so you can
select
some Word settings that will allow you to use the document effectively.]

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so
my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================

 

[little_creature]

Hiya

We would send you to stand in the corner by yourself. Except that John,
John, Clive and Daiya are already standing in the corner, so the corners are
all full.

Ok we can target for Pentagon - there is still one spare corner for
me .

We will put your toys on the high shelf for a week!!

I'm sorry that would be of no use, I know lots of trick Did you now,
you can do a high speed mixer from damaged HDD? I'm fine even with
napkin. A friend has learned me how to make animal from it you can
play with it.
See, I have answer/excuses for anything..., I'm bad lady.

I just wonder the note long-forgotten pain of a school teacher doing
that to me. Are the teacher allowed to make physical punishment? Not
in here. Do I need to know some magic how to keep the moon inclined?

 

[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Well, yeah, we do expect you to know how to keep the moon inclined.
Everyone knows that!!

In Australia, teachers are not allowed to perform physical punishment any
longer, as far as I know. In fact, it's also against the law for parents to
do so.

And i think we all understand that it never worked anyway. When I was in
school, we used to put a notch in our belt for every stroke of the cane we
got. I had 135 notches I was very proud of that And I never
learned anything...

Cheers

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[Peter Jamieson]

Hello little_creature,

I don't like to be rude either. But I do like things to be clear.

My starts numbering on 5th page by number 5, which is used in book
where you do not want to number first few pages.
Whereas yours starts numbering form first page by -3 and continues to
0 on 4th page and 1 on 5th page... I don't want to sound rude. I think
the yours has been mentioned not to show numbers on first 4th pages
and starts by number 1 on 5th. But that needs alteration.

Based on this spec., which was only for illustration anyway:

<<
If you want to start numbering from let say 5th page type and will
start from number 1.
I was assuming that you want the physical page 5 to be numbered 1.

In which case you need something like the thing I provided, or to do your
numbering a different way altogether.

The reason I assumed that was what you meant is because when you do

{IF { PAGE} > 4 { PAGE -4} ""}

If you want physical page 1 to have no number, then numbering to start at
page 5 with "5", then I agree that your solution works. However, { PAGE -4 }
is no different from { PAGE }, and is potentially confusing - in fact, it's
what led me to believe that you were trying to subtract 4 from the page
number from page 5 onwards - in which case you would need what I said -
which would not, in fact, display negative page numers on earlier pages
either. But perhaps { PAGE -4} does something different in the version of
Word you are using?

But in any case,
a. the effect of PAGE depends on what the start page number for the section
is set to
b. if { PAGE } is numeric and you have to adjust it in some way, you can
also consider using a numeric format switch to output different values on,
before, or after a certain page number
c. if your page numbering is formatted as (say) A,B,C, then calculations
using { PAGE } don't work anyway because it isn't a number.

Hmm... a spanking by John McGhie, then cut a notch in my belt? I must have
met the wrong people when I was in Australia...

Peter Jamieson

 

[Phillip Jones]

LC

Your not a Pherengh (deep space9)

They loved to have their ear tweaked. ;-)

Hiya
Ok we can target for Pentagon - there is still one spare corner for
me .
I'm sorry that would be of no use, I know lots of trick Did you now,
you can do a high speed mixer from damaged HDD? I'm fine even with
napkin. A friend has learned me how to make animal from it you can
play with it.
See, I have answer/excuses for anything..., I'm bad lady.

I just wonder the note long-forgotten pain of a school teacher doing
that to me. Are the teacher allowed to make physical punishment? Not
in here. Do I need to know some magic how to keep the moon inclined?

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[Phillip Jones]

They used 1" thick solid oak paddles with holes drilled in them to cut
down wind resistance. When Principal used it you could hear it resonate
all over the school.

Of Course the school at the time only had 12 classrooms. And the school
was in a square shape. The center court are was used as combination/
gym/cafeteria/ and auditorium.

Well, yeah, we do expect you to know how to keep the moon inclined.
Everyone knows that!!

In Australia, teachers are not allowed to perform physical punishment any
longer, as far as I know. In fact, it's also against the law for parents to
do so.

And i think we all understand that it never worked anyway. When I was in
school, we used to put a notch in our belt for every stroke of the cane we
got. I had 135 notches I was very proud of that And I never
learned anything...

Cheers

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[Clive Huggan]

They used 1" thick solid oak paddles with holes drilled in them to cut
down wind resistance. When Principal used it you could hear it resonate
all over the school.

Of Course the school at the time only had 12 classrooms. And the school
was in a square shape. The center court are was used as combination/
gym/cafeteria/ and auditorium.

Ah, for a moment I thought you were going to say "punishment compound",
Phillip!

As it is, I imagine people sitting at tables, hoeing into hamburgers, while
athletes vault over them ... ;-)

CH
===

 

[little_creature]

Ah, for a moment I thought you were going to say "punishment compound",
Phillip!

As it is, I imagine people sitting at tables, hoeing into hamburgers, while
athletes vault over them ... ;-)

CH
===

Hi Peter,
I realize what you mean yesterday at night TX.

To the all rest,
I'm not quite sure I understand - these times were quite different for
me (and I do not expect you to understand me)- I remember title the
teacher: Comrade teacher, not being accepted to language school
because we did not had the *proper friends* and others even with worse
studying results were accepted because they were friends of Comrade...
But that's the live. Others had worse time...

 

[Phillip Jones]

Ah, for a moment I thought you were going to say "punishment compound",
Phillip!

As it is, I imagine people sitting at tables, hoeing into hamburgers, while
athletes vault over them ... ;-)

CH
===

I was forced to eat an entire large size stuffed Green pepper which I
promptly upchucked on my Teacher (3rd grade).

all the teachers would hover over us to cajole us to eat all our food.
which the admonishment: Just think about the poor African children that
don't have food, and you want to wast yours!"
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[John McGhie [MVP Word, Word Mac]]

Hi LC:

I'm not quite sure I understand - these times were quite different for
me (and I do not expect you to understand me)- I remember title the
teacher: Comrade teacher, not being accepted to language school
because we did not had the *proper friends* and others even with worse
studying results were accepted because they were friends of Comrade...
But that's the live. Others had worse time...

Oh, we understand THAT perfectly. It's called "class distinction" and
"corruption", and it's alive and well in the Capitalist system to this day


Here, it used to be that a child could not go to the "right" school unless
they were enrolled before they were born(!). And if you do not go to one of
the "right" schools, some important careers were forever unobtainable. But
if your parents "knew the right people", exceptions would be made

We would love to place our hands over our hearts and claim that we have
entirely removed corruption, priviledge, and prejudice from our social
system.

Sadly, if we said that, we would be lying

You are further ahead than we are in equality for women. In Australia, we
do better than most countries at looking after citizens less fortunate (e.g.
the best health care in Australia is entirely without charge to the
patient).

But a woman still has to work twice as hard to get paid half as much, and
you'll never be Prime Minister unless you know the right people and go to
the right school...

On the other hand, some of us are rather pleased that we do not have to
socialise with the sort of people who "could" become Prime Minister

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[little_creature]

Hi LC:




Oh, we understand THAT perfectly. It's called "class distinction" and
"corruption", and it's alive and well in the Capitalist system to this day


Here, it used to be that a child could not go to the "right" school unless
they were enrolled before they were born(!). And if you do not go to one of
the "right" schools, some important careers were forever unobtainable. But
if your parents "knew the right people", exceptions would be made

We would love to place our hands over our hearts and claim that we have
entirely removed corruption, priviledge, and prejudice from our social
system.

Sadly, if we said that, we would be lying

You are further ahead than we are in equality for women. In Australia, we
do better than most countries at looking after citizens less fortunate (e.g.
the best health care in Australia is entirely without charge to the
patient).

But a woman still has to work twice as hard to get paid half as much, and
you'll never be Prime Minister unless you know the right people and go to
the right school...

On the other hand, some of us are rather pleased that we do not have to
socialise with the sort of people who "could" become Prime Minister

Cheers

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Well, yes and no. I wasn't just about education, everything was about
connection (there was lack of anything - if you needed brick for house
you needed to have connection to change many things in order to get
bricks (such as brick for wood, wood for electronics...)) and keeping
information in secret. I once tried to explain to one Englishman that
Russian tents to keep information secret, that human live is not on
the first place and he did not understand, on the other hand some,
especially eldery, people did understand. I do not have anything
against Russia, I just know, they tend to hide informations. Just for
example:
When that atomic power statition in Cernobyl exploded in 1986 they
did not tell us anything for 5 days. They play the game nothing
happened - because you could not smell it or see it. That time here
the Comrades did govern and at that time we could not catch any
foreign radio - that was prohibited and to make sure you will not
listen it jammers were installed so you could not hear any foreign
news. Capitalist were claimed to be BAD and our enemies . You could
and were prisoned if you have other opinion than communist did have...
What I wanted to say that it wasn't just about education, it was about
freedom, It would be a long story...